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value-brand cereal posted:fSo I've been reading stuff. Hey speaking of euro dystopia fuckery! lmao (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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value-brand cereal posted:This Wretched Valley by Jenny Kiefer [white american woman] Just downloaded this. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Good Citizen posted:I’m gonna read some of that stuff you posted vbc gently caress yeah! I hope you get scared!! filmcynic posted:Just downloaded this. Thanks for the recommendation! You're welcome! I loved the first few pages, that's a great hook of we're going to explain they're dead at the start in hosed up impossible ways, don't you wanna know how? Huh? Huh?? Anyways, I got sick of the weird racist cave horror book about pubic hair romance, and tried a different cave horror novel. And I gotta ask why the gently caress are they either uninteresting, or racist as all get out? Maybe I'm reading all the wrong books but man. Scott Sigler you suck rear end. Also the characters are generic and are Aliens Prometheus levels of dumby. Don't read Earthcore. Or if you do, start on chapter 9, that's when cave related stuff happens. Ugh. What's weird is that I remember his 'Infection' scifi book was ok. Or maybe it was YA audience and so I just had really low expectations to begin with. Actually I'm not done. So the woman of color(?) drives up to the cave where the antagonists have set up their illegal mining gig and she declares they have to stop or else * they may be magic, btw. Or genocided by cave monsters, who knows. Let me look up the summary. THIS NERD HAS HIS OWN WIKIPEDIA. LORD HELP ME. That's where I stopped. MAn I just want people dying to horrible cave monsters. Is that SO much to ask for.
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value-brand cereal posted:
The Descent by Jeff Long is pretty much that.
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Trainee PornStar posted:The Descent by Jeff Long is pretty much that. Hilariously that was the book I was complain about having racist antiblack misogynistic poo poo. I'm still reading it, for some reason. For how dumb the plot is to me, it's one of the better written or more competent plots I've seen so far. And the action scenes are pretty great. It's not quite Dan Brown levels of illuminati poo poo but it's compelling enough that I want to know what the point of this is. Then again, I dare anyone to invoke the Shroud of Turin with a straight face. It's like eating a slice of buttered bread that you accidentally dropped on the floor and you know it's relatively clean and there's nothing hairy on it but still. Kinda could do without the hypothetical germs.
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value-brand cereal posted:Hilariously that was the book I was complain about having racist antiblack misogynistic poo poo. I'm still reading it, for some reason. For how dumb the plot is to me, it's one of the better written or more competent plots I've seen so far. And the action scenes are pretty great. It's not quite Dan Brown levels of illuminati poo poo but it's compelling enough that I want to know what the point of this is. Then again, I dare anyone to invoke the Shroud of Turin with a straight face. The Descent is a weird book, somehow tremendously compelling in that gonzo airport thriller way, really original high-concept plot, and yeah, some well written eerie deep time/geological stuff… alongside casual racism in exactly the way you’d expect from an airport thriller. The sequel is almost worse for misogyny because it has this caricatured OTT post-9/11 fundie woman as a villain. Real Michael Moore “she’s so dumb and crazy!!!” stuff.
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GhastlyBizness posted:The Descent is a weird book, somehow tremendously compelling in that gonzo airport thriller way, really original high-concept plot, and yeah, some well written eerie deep time/geological stuff… alongside casual racism in exactly the way you’d expect from an airport thriller. There is not a sequel. Oh my god there's a sequel. I refuse to put myself through more of it, I'm certainly not its audience. But man, that's unsurprising. Iirc from what I read off and on, the main woman character in The Descent seems fairly competent and fleshed out. A nun that's conflicted with religion, agrees to try to save the world anyways, mostly self reliant as far as the plot allows, realistically. And yes that's honestly what it feels like to read it. There's enough enjoyable parts that I'll trudge through the poo poo I don't vibe with. Like, I'd bring a physical copy to the beach and leave it by the trash can. Someone else can read it, or tip it into the garbage. Either way, that feels like its natural fate.
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value-brand cereal posted:There is not a sequel. Oh my god there's a sequel. I refuse to put myself through more of it, I'm certainly not its audience. But man, that's unsurprising. Iirc from what I read off and on, the main woman character in The Descent seems fairly competent and fleshed out. A nun that's conflicted with religion, agrees to try to save the world anyways, mostly self reliant as far as the plot allows, realistically. The sequel is pretty much more of the same but goes a bit more into the 'devil' side of things. I took them for what they were & enjoyed both.
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I read Descent what must have been 20 years ago and remember nothing but how long it felt. Cool concept but I don't know I'd want to re-read it. My current read is The Thirteenth Koyote, one of the splatter westerns, and it's pretty good but a bit mixed. It feels like a cool, high concept lovecraft book where he keeps getting reminded by the editor that it's supposed to be a splatter book and he'd better add something gross, for better or worse.
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Opopanax posted:I read Descent what must have been 20 years ago and remember nothing but how long it felt. Cool concept but I don't know I'd want to re-read it. I've read a few of the splatter westerns & they are loving excellent. Trainee PornStar fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 21, 2024 |
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Have you read The Maw, by Taylor Zajonc? It's pretty cheesy but hey, if you want mysterious, spooky caves, this book has them! Publisher blurb posted:For fans of Clive Cussler and Michael Crichton, a thrilling tale of an underground expedition to the deep . . . and the ultimate struggle for survival.
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value-brand cereal posted:There is not a sequel. Oh my god there's a sequel. I refuse to put myself through more of it, I'm certainly not its audience. But man, that's unsurprising. Iirc from what I read off and on, the main woman character in The Descent seems fairly competent and fleshed out. A nun that's conflicted with religion, agrees to try to save the world anyways, mostly self reliant as far as the plot allows, realistically. It is indeed more of the same but with a lot of bad, self-indulgent Milton-sequels philosophising by the villain and associated torture making up about about a third of the book. Other than that it’s not worse than the first one - the politics take on a cynical War on Terror slant - but no real reason to go hunting for it.
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I had trouble deciding whether to post this here or in the sci-fi thread, but I get more of a horror sense from weirdlit. After finishing The Weird by Jeff VanderMeer, I've been on the hunt for more sci-fi/horror weird fiction short story collections. My recent haul from the library: The Third Bear, also by Jeffy VM - Some good stuff in this one. The first story, The Third Bear, was a wild tale about a beast terrorizing and isolating a medieval village, and how it affects the residents. It did a really great job of portraying hopelessness against an outside force that resists any attempts to stop or even understand it. I also liked Finding Sonoria, which is very similar in premise to a short story in The Weird (Egnaro, by M. John Harrison) where someone becomes obsessed with finding a country that most likely doesn't exist. In my opinion, Egnaro does it better. This collection also has a story where Jeff has himself as a main character. I noticed this is a trope in weird fiction short stories and it always makes me cringe. --- The Year's Best Dark Fantasy & Horror 2012 - I wanted the Weird Fiction collections, but those seem hard to get in a non-digital way. I haven't gotten to the entire book, but I can say that Caitlin Kiernan and Stephen King rarely disappoint with their short stories. --- The Spectral Link, by Thomas Ligotti - drat, some of the creepiest stuff I've ever read. Many authors try to capture dreamlike scenes, but Ligotti is an expert. I guess that's what ten years of writer's block and near-death does to a guy. The Small People is outstanding at creating a weird world with its own rules. A mastery in "show, don't tell", and makes a great story out of the "insane patient telling his story to a psychologist" framing device. Obviously Ligotti is one of the first authors I should have tracked down after getting into Weird Fiction. Definitely going to try to track down more. The Town Manager was one of my favorites in The Weird. --- I love weird fiction short story collections. There are always some I start reading and can't get into, but it doesn't matter because there's always more. Anyone have any other good suggestions? I love stories that are based in the "real world" with a twist, or start off that way. I don't tend to like ones that are really out there. Not a short story, but a good example is China Mieville's Perdido Street Station - though I liked the book a lot, I don't usually enjoy stories that are set in an alien-feeling world like that. They're usually not as relatable, i.e. worse (to me) at giving me the horror vibes I'm looking for. Is/was there a WeirdLit thread?
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LifeLynx posted:I had trouble deciding whether to post this here or in the sci-fi thread, but I get more of a horror sense from weirdlit. After finishing The Weird by Jeff VanderMeer, I've been on the hunt for more sci-fi/horror weird fiction short story collections. My recent haul from the library: Brian Evenson and Robert Aickman's collections are great places to go on from The Weird and yes, here's the WeirdLit thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3461819 Lol it's been almost a decade of me recommending Brian Evenson to deaf ears fez_machine posted:Brian Evenson is probably one of the best writers writing horror at the moment. Get Windeye, its got most of the really good stuff in it. fez_machine fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 22, 2024 |
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LifeLynx posted:I had trouble deciding whether to post this here or in the sci-fi thread, but I get more of a horror sense from weirdlit. After finishing The Weird by Jeff VanderMeer, I've been on the hunt for more sci-fi/horror weird fiction short story collections. My recent haul from the library: Get the Ballingrud books if you haven't already
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fez_machine posted:Brian Evenson and Robert Aickman's collections are great places to go on from The Weird Not entirely deaf, I started reading Evenson because of him being recommended in the Weird thread and never regretted it
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MockingQuantum posted:Not entirely deaf, I started reading Evenson because of him being recommended in the Weird thread and never regretted it Thank you for your services to reading and enjoying good short fiction
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Seconding Robert Aickman. Some of his stories are more conventionally horror-fiction-shaped than others, but all of them are weird as hell. I think he may be the world's reigning champion of "nothing actually horrific happened in that story but I'm still deeply unnerved" writing.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Have you read The Maw, by Taylor Zajonc? It's pretty cheesy but hey, if you want mysterious, spooky caves, this book has them! Bizarrely I'm not sure I've come across it yet? That seems familiar, but then again you can only blurb so much about 'people go in cave, bad things maybe happen?'. Thank you, I'll throw it on my Currently Reading list once the library releases it into my grubby hands! Oh, and I meant to add this to my previous post as it was about some of Brian Hodge's other works. The Immaculate Void - Brian Hodge quote:
Now this was surprisingly heart warming. Well, despite the semi graphic gore and such. Hodge can write some decently human cosmic horror. I don't know if it's particularly original, as I don't read too much cosmic horror. But honestly, I had fun reading it, and I liked the rotating pov of the siblings. I'm not sure if it was my epub copy being buggy, but the bluntness of shifting POV really lent itself to how intertwined the siblings were. ps squishy lesbian thighs lmao Major content warning for semi explicit child torture. There's nothing graphic but it's repeatedly discussed and brought up. The other one I read of his was Whom the Gods Would Destroy. quote:
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Just read this! It was competent enough, although not super-original, except for the climbing plot hook, never read a horror novel before where rock climbing was a key thing. It did get me looking at Kentucky on Google Streetview though! Man, Kentucky has some pretty countryside 
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GhastlyBizness posted:The Descent is a weird book, somehow tremendously compelling in that gonzo airport thriller way, really original high-concept plot, and yeah, some well written eerie deep time/geological stuff… alongside casual racism in exactly the way you’d expect from an airport thriller. This gets me thinking, is there any good horror out there that really gets into the sort of peliagic horror of vast timescales? Obviously there's innumerable horror novels that deal with things from the distant past or beings from before the birth of the universe or whatever, but "eerie deep time" really puts me in mind of the frisson you get when there's a scene in a movie where a scients goes "well there has to be a mistake, carbon dating puts this at five million years before there were people here!" and things of that nature. And while it's a bit off topic, I'd take recommendations in genres other than horror too. I just got a bit excited thinking about stuff so old it's scary.
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At the Mountains of Madness. Three Body Problem deals with large time scales in a pretty existentially horrifying way at times, too
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Black Griffon posted:This gets me thinking, is there any good horror out there that really gets into the sort of peliagic horror of vast timescales? Obviously there's innumerable horror novels that deal with things from the distant past or beings from before the birth of the universe or whatever, but "eerie deep time" really puts me in mind of the frisson you get when there's a scene in a movie where a scients goes "well there has to be a mistake, carbon dating puts this at five million years before there were people here!" and things of that nature. If either roleplaying games or art books are acceptable other-genres, then check out Veins of the Earth and to a lesser extent Deep Carbon Observatory, both by Patrick Stuart. Veins is Stuart's deep-dive into subterranean-exploration-and-deep-time-horror, and it is excellent. While it's technically a game book, it's meant to be a "universal" or "system-agnostic" game book, so the numbers and rules are minimal: it's mostly just deliciously weird and unsettling worldbuilding and microfiction, and it absolutely sells the horror of deep time.
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Stephen King's The Jaunt is horror about vast expanses of time. It's also very brief and creepy.
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Black Griffon posted:This gets me thinking, is there any good horror out there that really gets into the sort of peliagic horror of vast timescales? That's the theme of The Reddening, by Adam Nevill - the persistence of evil in a location over geological periods of time. It also has spooky caves in it!
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Nevill was inspired to write it after moving to the UK's Jurassic Coast, where he became fascinated by the vast age of the landscapes and the fact that humans had lived there since the times when they weren't exactly humans like us, and decided to work it up into a novel.
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Thanks for all the recs! They all sound very intriguing, might have to suggest some caving to the role playing group. I did end up buying The Descent too because it was cheap and I'm a dumbass and it looks like my kind of stupid fun.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Nevill was inspired to write it after moving to the UK's Jurassic Coast, where he became fascinated by the vast age of the landscapes and the fact that humans had lived there since the times when they weren't exactly humans like us, and decided to work it up into a novel. I can’t even imagine places like Dorset and the Jurassic coast untouched by folk horror now, they just lend themselves so well to that sort of geological creepiness. Listening to PJ Harvey’s White Chalk album helped too. Would second Veins of the Earth, it was actually reading Stuart wrote about The Descent as an inspiration that got me interested in it.
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After about 5 hours, I have finished The Desent by Jeff Long. It was like a beautiful sea faring ship, still viable for travel, yet kinda dilapidated in a 'we are paying for the barest amount of transport to get from A to B and nothing else matters' kind of way. The hull looks like it's patched with dog poo poo. The sails are thread bare and patches with t shirts from aliexpress. There's no steering wheel, just a stick jammed into a few holes to turn it and even then its wobbly as gently caress. I'm saying it was a decent cave horror with scifi elements and a good mystery. The ending made sense and felt like a good enough pay off. The downside for me was trudging through really stupid *isms and *phobias and listening to an author who'd probably suck Reagan's dick clean off as long as he got to choke out 'no homo' after. The action scenes were pretty decent. And you know, I can appreciate a realistic military / mercenary cast of character. Oh yeah they'd commit war crimes like Nuremberg never existed all while saying they're getting rid of the evil savages to make way for a whiter I mean brighter future. I don't know what I'm going with this and I've said enough. The Descent was good cave horror with action sequences. The end. Forgive me if I mentioned this book already, but I read some time ago, Children of Chicago by Cynthia Pelayo. If you ever come across it and read the summary, you might think it's a supernatural horror. Well.... About that... No, not really. It's a copaganda crime thriller with elements of some brief supernatural things, and themes of the Pied Piper. That's sort of spoils the book in the same way explaining Trembley's 'A Head Full of Ghosts' plot, so I'm spoilering it. Or The Devil's Playground by Craig Russell. If that makes any sense to those who've read those two books. Go in blind or don't. I thought it was stupid and hugely disappointing as far as an entry into the horror genre goes. I bring up this book because she wrote another potentially horror genre book. Like a sucker, I'm going to read it and hope it's actually more horror genre than the other book. [No I don't have common sense and yes I have too much hope when it comes to a good summary. I read about 5 Ronald Malfi books and only one, ONE, was legit horror genre with supernatural poo poo. Hmm.] The Shoemaker's Magician by Cynthia Pelayo quote:A fabled lost movie. An increasing body count. How much do you risk for art? MOVIE FILM CURSED MEDIA poo poo gently caress YEAH!!!!!!! God knows it's going to be copaganda mystery, but whatever. So long as I get a cursed movie out of it, ok? ok. Also cop death. I NEED cops to die. Other books that look interesting which I haven't read [whispers someone else read em and report back please! They look so cool but I don't have to time to get into them, sobbing and weeping] The Necromancer's House by Christopher Buehlman quote:Andrew Ranulf Blankenship is a handsome, stylish nonconformist with wry wit, a classic Mustang, and a massive library. He is also a recovering alcoholic and a practicing warlock, able to speak with the dead through film. His house is a maze of sorcerous booby traps and escape tunnels, as yours might be if you were sitting on a treasury of Russian magic stolen from the Soviet Union thirty years ago. Andrew has long known that magic was a brutal game requiring blood sacrifice and a willingness to confront death, but his many years of peace and comfort have left him soft, more concerned with maintaining false youth than with seeing to his own defense. Now a monster straight from the pages of Russian folklore is coming for him, and frost and death are coming with her. I think this came out some time ago, but apparently the supernatural element is Baba Yaga and perhaps some other Russian monsters? Maybe an entry for Despressed Euro Fuckery Horror? I'll make a note whenever I get around to read it. Our Share of Night by Mariana Enriquez quote:A woman’s mysterious death puts her husband and son on a collision course with her demonic family. I'm not thrilled about the lgbt subplots--nothing about my lgbt-ness is a subplot irl if you know what I mean. Unless it's a Closeted thing? Also the dead woman being a motivation for men. Hm. Well ok, maybe it's relevant to the 60s dictatorship and how women were brutalized? Not that they were the only victims during that. Family Business by Jonathan Sims quote:When Diya Burman’s best friend Angie dies, it feels like her own life is falling apart. Wanting a fresh start, she joins Slough & Sons – a family firm that cleans up after the recently deceased. Old love letters. Porcelain dolls. Broken trinkets. Clearing away the remnants of other people’s lives, Diya begins to see things. Horrible things. Things that get harder and harder to write off as merely her grieving imagination. All is not as it seems with the Slough family. Why won’t they speak about their own recent loss? And who is the strange man that keeps turning up at their jobs? If Diya’s not careful, she might just end up getting buried under the family tree. You know what I love about video games? Rummaging through people's poo poo. Especially where you can just throw poo poo into a pile until the game starts lagging from it, like I did in Prey. Anyways, this appeals to me. There's something about garage sales and antique shops and imagining the backstories to every little trinket. Well. That's all for now.
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UwUnabomber posted:Any opinions on The Resurrectionist by Wrath James White? It’s gruesome and disturbing and the other things you should always expect from a Wrath James White book
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Right on. The only book of his I can remember reading is Son of a Bitch. SoaB definitely edges up to horror/comedy in a couple places, like when a Soulja Boy ringtone sends the dog monster into a blind fury. That's really the only frame of reference I have for his work.
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UwUnabomber posted:Right on. The only book of his I can remember reading is Son of a Bitch. SoaB definitely edges up to horror/comedy in a couple places, like when a Soulja Boy ringtone sends the dog monster into a blind fury. That's really the only frame of reference I have for his work. It's been a few years since I read it but I don't remember any comedy at all. It's on the more extreme side of WJW's work
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Brian Lumley passed away earlier this month. I suspect a lot of us found him through his Necroscope series, which may not have been good, but was a lot of fun.
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Ornamented Death posted:Brian Lumley passed away earlier this month. I suspect a lot of us found him through his Necroscope series, which may not have been good, but was a lot of fun. Sad news. He was well up in his 80s though, so he had a good run.
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Sorry for the double post, but   This is the first Subterranean Press book I've owned, and it took me about four attempts to buy it from them.
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UwUnabomber posted:Stephen King's The Jaunt is horror about vast expanses of time. It's also very brief and creepy. It’s longer than you think
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Hi, I haven't read anything new. But there are some cool looking books that have come out I'd like to share. Maybe some will strike a fancy? The House of Last Resort by Christopher Golden [white american man] quote:The next high concept horror novel from New York Times bestselling author Christopher Golden. Across Italy there are many half-empty towns, nearly abandoned by those who migrate to the coast or to cities. The beautiful, crumbling hilltop town of Becchina is among them, but its mayor has taken drastic measures to rebuild—selling abandoned homes to anyone in the world for a single Euro, as long as the buyer promises to live there for at least five years. "high concept horror" Someone please read this and report back what the gently caress that entails. Please. Is this a novelization of an unreleased a24 novel or what? OR does the locale of Italy make it’s high concept? Now I'm sure high concept horror exists, somehow, but that's a big promise to make. Or hell, someone who's read Christopher Golden before please comment. The Last Immortal by Natalie Gibson [white american woman] quote:I am Lady Ramillia Winmoore, daughter of the very late Earl of Brooksberry, or I was lifetimes ago. I am an immortal, and this is my story. Do what you will with it, but I must warn this tale is not for the faint of heart. Highborn Victorian Lady that I was, my life was one of violence and cruelty. These Things Linger by Dan Franklin [white american man] quote:When Alex Wilson’s estranged uncle unexpectedly dies, Alex realizes he would do just about anything to make peace with the man who had raised him as his own. I’ve never read or heard of this author, but the book cover has a hosed sea creature’s mouth on it and I want to know how relevant that is to the plot. Does the main character get sucked to death? Hope so! The Restless Ones by Abe Moss [white american man] quote:There’s no rest for the wicked… or the dead they’ve left behind. I read another book about it and didn’t care for it. Not bad writing or plot or anything. My calibre notes says I didn’t like the pseudo batman main character and how the little girl and ONLY female character needed rescuing. All the same, maybe this one I’ll like? I’m interested in the idea of a reality tv show trying to examine haunted locations. Like the novel ‘Episode Thirteen’ by Craig Dilouie. Even though I loving hated that book’s conclusion. The Hole in the Hallway by R S Merritt quote:Based in part on true events Your Utopia by Bora Chung [korean woman] quote:From the acclaimed author and translator of Cursed Bunny, a fresh, uncanny, and utterly profound collection of stories set in near and distant futures that reflect our deepest fears—and deepest desires. Midnight on Beacon Street by Emily Ruth Verona [white american woman] quote:A suspenseful and entertaining debut thriller—and love letter to vintage horror movies in which a teenager must overcome her own anxiety to protect the two children she’s babysitting when strangers come knocking at the door.
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