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Shuka posted:Rookie Yao ming got 250k more all star votes than Shaq in 2003. Barkley and Shaq learned some poo poo about casual racism that year. Barkley retired in 2000, and those votes for Yao came from China. Are you ok? Am I missing something here?
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 13:19 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Hey guys I know this may shock you but those therapy sessions for Draymond may not have actually worked Hey he calls for the refs to replay it after. That’s called accountability.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 13:49 |
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To be fair the therapy was only to protect Euros so Davis should have known he was fair game
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 14:04 |
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Metapod posted:We just can't tell which guy is doing better You don't think SGA is the leader of that team?
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 14:36 |
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Rick posted:Hey he calls for the refs to replay it after. That’s called accountability. He’s mocking Vando for doing the replay gesture
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 16:08 |
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temple posted:wemby is a real rookie Not true he’s played pro basketball for 3 seasons now.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 16:18 |
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WhyteRyce posted:He’s mocking Vando for doing the replay gesture okay so yeah dray hasnt changed at all BUT that was actually really funny
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 16:21 |
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Lockback posted:You don't think SGA is the leader of that team? Shai is the veteran leader and the face of the team Chet is the guy who makes the team make sense Chet takes away so much of the defensive burden that existed last season it's insane how much more relaxed everyone is making rotations instead of a scramble for dear life
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 16:28 |
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Ghost Dog posted:im just glad i can still say something non contronversial(chet is dominating wemby in advanced stats) and get some people screaming at me about points per game u said "metric" which doesnt mean ":advanced stats". your a backpedaling liar and should be probated.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 17:17 |
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Shear Modulus posted:Chet had a much better first month or so than wemby but he has come down somewhat since november when he was shooting like steph curry meanwhile wemby has been playing out of his mind since late december Thank you, this is pretty much what I was looking to confirm. I need to know the Narratives in order to stay current, because I am a busy adult and I don't watch basketball other than my own team except for the random national games I turn on and these are somehow always 76er games where Tobias Harris looks like absolute rear end (except for the games he plays against my team).
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 17:17 |
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according to the metrics, you know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at chet and you look at wembanyama and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another beanpole center, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But wemby's a genetic freak and he's not normal! So chet's got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat him. Then you add devin vessell to the mix, chet's chances of winning drastic go down. See in a february nba road game, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but wemby, wemby's got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because lu dort KNOWS he can't beat him and he's not even gonna try! So, you take chet's 33 1/3 chance, minus wemby's 25% chance and chet's got an 8 1/3 chance of winning in the frost bank center. But then you take wemby's 75% chance of winning, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, wemby's got 141 2/3 chance of winning. See, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for chet at in the nba rookie of the year race.
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nikosoft posted:Thank you, this is pretty much what I was looking to confirm. I need to know the Narratives in order to stay current, because I am a busy adult and I don't watch basketball other than my own team except for the random national games I turn on and these are somehow always 76er games where Tobias Harris looks like absolute rear end (except for the games he plays against my team). The only narrative you need is Harrison Barnes Is Back
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 17:43 |
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fart simpson posted:u said "metric" which doesnt mean ":advanced stats". your a backpedaling liar and should be probated. and be forced into mandatory therapy until the mods determine its safe & healthy to post again
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:15 |
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fart simpson posted:u said "metric" which doesnt mean ":advanced stats". your a backpedaling liar and should be probated. i didnt feel like arguing about it last night cause people were already hopping up and down mad screaming about how DRB% is the most important stat ever but chet is also better in traditional stats. 17 pts on 54/38/77 is a much better statline than 20 pts on 46/30/80. its why his ts% is so much higher, he has been wildly more efficient. screaming about ppg and other counting stats without regard to efficiency is just some kobe stan stuff so its pretty easy for me to be unmoved by the wailing
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:26 |
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Starts with "every metric", ends up cherry-picking stats
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:30 |
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Not about to go to bat for some guy named Chet that’s for sure
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:31 |
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some would argue its not cherry picking to talk about the ball go in hoop stats in the ball go in hoop sport, but i simply dont have a brain big enough to love tall monta like that
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:34 |
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Everyone one knows every means some. Some of you have some growing up to do
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:36 |
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Chet going to stop Wemby the Olympics just like he did at international juniors.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:36 |
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rookie of the year is the dumbest most meaningless award, who gives a poo poo man you know they gave one of those to tyreke evans?
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Declan MacManus posted:rookie of the year is the dumbest most meaningless award, who gives a poo poo man It's especially meaningless since they give it to non-rookies now
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CharlestheHammer posted:Everyone one knows every means some. i legitimately didnt think people would be this upset about me failing to give wemby the just credit for his 3 rebounds more per game and 2 blocks more per game. if u wanna live on the hill that those stats are hundreds of times more important than efficiency then ok, dont think there's much to talk about there. godspeed
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:38 |
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I admire the mental gymnastics it takes to avoid acknowledging the holes that can be poked in a blanket statement with a simple Google search.
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Ghost Dog posted:i legitimately didnt think people would be this upset about me failing to give wemby the just credit for his 3 rebounds more per game and 2 blocks more per game. if u wanna live on the hill that those stats are hundreds of times more important than efficiency then ok, dont think there's much to talk about there. godspeed I do want to die on that hill yeah. It seems like an incredibly easy hill to defend
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:39 |
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ive done zero gymnastics. hes a better scorer on higher efficiency, the stars bare this out. if you think a minor difference in rebounds and blocks per game is this important to get irate about then i congratulate you on your Mark Eaton vs Manute Bol GOAT debate
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lowtiergod saying you should really go die on that hill now
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:42 |
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A lot of arenas would pay for contortionist acts like this. "Every Metric"
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shooting efficiency is why daniel gafford is my favorite to win MVP
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:42 |
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chet has higher Got That Dawg In Em for sure i think they're about the same in That Boy Nice chet wins
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:43 |
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well anyway i think it's interesting for d'lo to go to the spurs because of his potential for alleyoops, especially wrt wemby in that wemby can pick up d'lo and say "Oops" as he drops him in the alley dumpster
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:44 |
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Chet: 1.0 dog in him per 36 Wemby: 0.0 dog in him per 36
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:45 |
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is Got That Dawg In Em a stat or a metric?
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:46 |
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has anyone done the math on how many points are saved per block so that we can really dive deep into each player's value
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:49 |
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WhyteRyce posted:The only narrative you need is Harrison Barnes Is Back It's true! He was Gone, but now He is Back!
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:49 |
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Papercut posted:It's especially meaningless since they give it to non-rookies now Was Blake Griffin the first “fake” rookie of the year?
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:50 |
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Aye Doc posted:has anyone done the math on how many points are saved per block so that we can really dive deep into each player's value i'd say about 2-3
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:50 |
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Efficiency is sorta overrated in general. At least independent of team context. Wemby is going to be more inefficient since he has to create so much of his own offense, He has no guards that can pass on his team. And he is by far the biggest threat on that team. Chet gets to play off like a top 7ish player in the league. But yeah Chet has pretty clearly been the better player this year, even if it's pretty clear that Wemby's ceiling is higher. It helps that Chet has had one more year of NBA coaching and training regimen but shrug, rookie of the year rules are silly. It also helps Chet that he's playing on a team that is not unserious, and has an actual NBA caliber initiator and as such is going to be able to be put into advantage situations, as teams have to worry about Shai, and the rest of the roster.
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:51 |
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I think next year wemby will be better than Chet is this year. is that something? Can I bet on that?
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# ? Jan 28, 2024 18:54 |
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don't forget that the last time they gave rookie of the year to a fake rookie, he went on to ruin the dunk contest forever by turning it into a kia commercial
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Shear Modulus posted:don't forget that the last time they gave rookie of the year to a fake rookie, he went on to ruin the dunk contest forever by turning it into a kia commercial Ben Simmons?
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