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wandler20 posted:Arnold is a fun corner to watch. Yeah Arnold is either CB1 or CB4 this year I think at the moment. Might even go ahead of Kool-Aid. I still have Nate Wiggins at #1 but that's all potential based. code:
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Good thread on top pass rushers: https://twitter.com/JohnOwning/status/1748123129975824572?t=Tm13WrN1DAeJkeNAjLslyw&s=19
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There's no way Jaheim Bell makes it to Rd 6, he's the best receiving tight end in the draft outside of Bowers. The top 5 TEs are kinda good? I like them so far, we'll see how the combine goes. There's just nothing after them. It's a little spicier if someone tries to convert Johnny Wilson into TE.
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I think I'm the only one who likes Fashanu bit more than Alt. I think both will be really good, tho (super hot take right there).
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:There's no way Jaheim Bell makes it to Rd 6, he's the best receiving tight end in the draft outside of Bowers. The top 5 TEs are kinda good? I like them so far, we'll see how the combine goes. There's just nothing after them. It's a little spicier if someone tries to convert Johnny Wilson into TE. Ehhhh, the TE class this year isn't as good as everyone wants to think. Bowers Sanders Then a massive drop off.
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https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites/ So much talent. Goddamn.
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doesn't everyone hate this TE class? with pretty good reason it's got no depth. I think Sinnott and Bell are pretty close to Sanders. Sinnott has some impressive inline blocking reps on film, some mixed backfield and wide blocking. Really like the way he transitions to runner. it's very smooth. I might have gotten a little carried away with calling Bell the best receiving TE outside of Bowers, that's probably still Sanders, but I do like like him a lot. Good things keep happening when he's got the ball. And then Stover is fine? I kinda really like him, but not sure exactly why. He plays a really clean game even if nothing stands out athletically. You'd think he'd be a better blocker than he is though. My takeaway from watching some film, is that the top of the TE class wasn't as bad as other people have made it out to be.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_QE7bhL1s Field's stans need to realize this guy is going to make the Bears relevant again. I am sorry.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_QE7bhL1s the bears will destroy his career, if I were him I'd pull an eli and refuse to go.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_QE7bhL1s He’s incredible. Love that he scrambles to pass rather than scramble to run.
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https://x.com/BrettKollmann/status/1751320666404512140?s=20 https://x.com/dpbrugler/status/1751343594898612421?s=20 Welp. He's going to be a 3rd Rounder now. gently caress.
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R.D. Mangles posted:the bears will destroy his career, if I were him I'd pull an eli and refuse to go. He grew up a Packers fan so Ornery and Hornery posted:He’s incredible. Love that he scrambles to pass rather than scramble to run. In-structure or out-of-structure, he can do it all.
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Coker looks okay from the lovely FCS angle tape. I hate sideline cams because everyone always looks so slow and lovely it's hard to tell what they're actually like.
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Canned Sunshine posted:Unavailable Damnit, I think the NCAA has been copyright striking any video that has film in it. Let me see if their is a mirror. E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACuRECPJU3Q
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the arm talent is loving bonkers. Chicago please draft this guy and keep him out of the AFC
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AndrewP posted:the arm talent is loving bonkers. Chicago please draft this guy and keep him out of the AFC Mahomes level arm talent and incredible highlight reel. My only question is that he had 8:seconds to throw in almost all of those clips. To keep plays alive that long in the NFL you need Russell Wilson level escapability. Pretty much no one has that. So I think that the Bears should pass on Caleb and leave him as a consolation prize for my Commanders.
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Biggest problem with analyzing Caleb is figuring out if it's him or Lincoln Riley's dumb rear end telling him to hold the ball for 10s every down
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Doltos posted:Biggest problem with analyzing Caleb is figuring out if it's him or Lincoln Riley's dumb rear end telling him to hold the ball for 10s every down Most likely Caleb’s own thought process that has him standing for that long. Baker, Jalen, and Kyler all got the ball out very quickly on reads.
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Jalen yes, Kyler and Baker both held on to the ball forever in college because Riley's system makes them. He preaches passing lanes so he has his QBs either rolling out or sitting in the pocket forever looking for the defense shift to favor them.
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Doltos posted:Jalen yes, Kyler and Baker both held on to the ball forever in college because Riley's system makes them. He preaches passing lanes so he has his QBs either rolling out or sitting in the pocket forever looking for the defense shift to favor them. I think Klassen described that offense as a million ways to throw a flat, wheel, or seam in a way that doesn’t really ask anything of a quarterback other than to wait. It didn’t used to be like this, used to have a lot more traditional stuff over the middle, but his OLs at USC have been horrific at executing counter or any good middle run, so the defenses just stack up in the middle and dare you to misdirect enough to punish them. Caleb is bad for him because he can hold the ball forever with his scrambling so coaching points from someone like Riley become like doing meth.
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The way Caleb holds the ball forever scares me, that poo poo's not gonna work in the NFL where you don't have a line full of 5-star recruits going against future insurance salesmen on every play.
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Grozz Nuy posted:The way Caleb holds the ball forever scares me, that poo poo's not gonna work in the NFL where you don't have a line full of 5-star recruits going against future insurance salesmen on every play. Good news, he didn’t have that in college either.
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Quick question SA, is Justin Jefferson worth two 1st round picks?
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Quick question SA, is Justin Jefferson worth two 1st round picks? Yes. At least I'd be thrilled if the Ravens landed him for 2 first round picks. I'd guess 25 or so teams would feel the same.
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I don't recall Jefferson's contract status off the top of my head, did he already get an extension? If the acquiring team was getting multiple years of control, then yeah I would say he'd probably get two firsts.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Quick question SA, is Justin Jefferson worth two 1st round picks? normally yes, this year in an insanely loaded WR draft maybe not. not bc he's less valuable but bc it'll lower the overall demand for a killer WR as a lot of teams are gonna think they can draft a good one.
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Jefferson would be worth 2 firsts in a heartbeat. Hed have a similar effect Tyreek had when he moved to Miami.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Jefferson would be worth 2 firsts in a heartbeat. Hed have a similar effect Tyreek had when he moved to Miami. Ok, that's what I was thinking. If the Vikings don't bring back Cousins, I wonder if they will trade Jefferson to some team to trade up and take a quarterback.
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Jefferson is the best WR in the league you're talking two firsts and then some
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Quick question SA, is Justin Jefferson worth two 1st round picks? Depends on the team. If you're picking low this year, you're probably good enough that adding JJ ensures that you'll be picking low again next year, so definitely. But a team that's rebuilding probably needs the picks more.
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Black Lighter posted:Depends on the team. If you're picking low this year, you're probably good enough that adding JJ ensures that you'll be picking low again next year, so definitely. But a team that's rebuilding probably needs the picks more. There is a lot of smoke at the Senior Bowl between league officials there that Kwesi is looking to sell some farm to get into the Top 3 to pick a QB.
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The cap is fake and all but two 1sts and $30m per year to a WR is a very small market of possible teams. Tyreek was a bit older but he didn’t get close to that return.
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Doltos posted:Jefferson is the best WR in the league you're talking two firsts and then some How much more value does Jefferson's age present vs Tyreek Hill? He's better than AJ Brown but I don't know if the Vikings get two firsts for him it's not like he's NFL superstar Bryce Young
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Jefferson is insanely good but I'm not sure most teams would justify trading 2 firsts for him given the recent hit rate on (most) teams drafting WR
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Caleb is weird, because like a number of Bears fans look at him, and his stuff like TTT, Sack numbers and Fumbles, and unwillingness to throw over the middle and think he's Fields again. Myself included for a while a bit there as I was more interested in Maye, maybe I'm just talking myself into him since that seems to be the way the Wind is blowing. But even removing his "highlights", I still see a QB who like definitely can play within structure, and make on time throws and reads, but like too often maybe because his team was rear end and he knew he had to score to win decides to say "gently caress it we ball". It works well enough in college, but he's not so much of a better athlete than other NFL players. God it'd be a fascinating interview to break down his tape and work through his thought process, in some of these games. But yeah this year at USC Caleb had like Tahj Washington, and that's pretty much it. Brenden Rice was okay. But like none of them are top 10 WR's in this class(albeit a loving yoked up and stacked WR class), although I guess I could hear a case for Tahj being top 10 over like Mitchell, or Legette. I don't know anymore, after I just so clearly missed and disregarded Fields flaws coming out as him just big play hunting(even before the Bears drafted him he was my QB2 that Draft had him just a touch below Lawrence was shocked he fell that far). I guess the difference is that Caleb was forced to drop back 30-40 times a game, while Fields only had to do so generally 25 or so times, and throw bombs off play action to Olave/Wilson while being protected by an NFL offensive line in college.
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