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Shear Modulus posted:I forgot about ben simmons Imagine posting in this thread and forgetting about Ben "Simmo the Savage" Simmons https://twitter.com/VibingSports/status/1751441828304347639 Some of these kids would probably be an upgrade over what the Spurs are sending out there.
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Papes posted:Chet: 1.0 dog in him per 36 Anything less than 3.0 wolf and 1.0 moon = 0.0 dog
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I don’t think being in a walking boot for a year is advantageous to playing pro ball for 2 seasons
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Dexo posted:Imagine posting in this thread and forgetting about Ben "Simmo the Savage" Simmons these tiny children could never defeat the timberwolves
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Declan MacManus posted:these tiny children could never defeat the timberwolves Especially in a 40 minute regulation nba game
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Dexo posted:Imagine posting in this thread and forgetting about Ben "Simmo the Savage" Simmons The Bucs d is worse than I heard
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Jan 28, 2024 19:07
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Papes posted:I don’t think being in a walking boot for a year is advantageous to playing pro ball for 2 seasons He's still in team meetings, and still watching tape and practices, and learning and working with the NBA team and trainers. It is extremely an advantage over just showing up to a new team for training camp and learning and adjusting to new surroundings and teammates, and familiarizing yourself with them.
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Jan 28, 2024 19:08
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Also better access to NBA-level steroids
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Shear Modulus posted:Also better access to NBA-level steroids  
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Wemby wasn't selling the dvds on the streets of Athens to buy loose gyro meat before he entered the league.
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Lmao Spacebump posted:Tim MacMahon pretending to be locked out of his Twitter when Luka scored 73 is hilarious. Even bigger lmao
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That’s honestly a generous shot of young Giannis too. There were moments he looked even less defined than that
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Papercut posted:It's especially meaningless since they give it to non-rookies now Ya, Wemby has played professional ball before he's definitely not a rookie
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Papes posted:I don’t think being in a walking boot for a year is advantageous to playing pro ball for 2 seasons Being a year older and that year being under the supervision of team trainers and nutritionist is a huge advantage. Especially as Chet is close to 2 years older than Wemby. That shouldn't matter for aROY award though.
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Metapod posted:Wemby is an Instagram player
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Young giannis is more jacked than current Chet
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Shear Modulus posted:don't forget that the last time they gave rookie of the year to a fake rookie, he went on to ruin the dunk contest forever by turning it into a kia commercial Blake got his when they shipped him to Detroit
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Doltos posted:Young giannis is more jacked than current Chet Current Chet is still young chet.
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Lockback posted:Being a year older and that year being under the supervision of team trainers and nutritionist is a huge advantage. Especially as Chet is close to 2 years older than Wemby. I see this narrative a lot and I really do not understand it. If you were given the task to become the best basketball player you possible could be, under no circumstance would you choose "be injured and sit around in team meetings for a year in a walking boot" over "play professional basketball for a year and be the focal point of an offense".
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Papes posted:I see this narrative a lot and I really do not understand it. I mean yes. It would have been better for Chet's development if he could have played last year. It's not like "good" that he sat a year. However since he did sit a year, he is still going to be steps ahead of a rookie who just got to the league, and hasn't had the training and coaching at the NBA level that Chet had last year despite being injured. Chet knows his teammates, he's practiced with them while he was rehabbing he knows their tendencies and has been able to talk with them about what they want from him and what he would like from them, over the past year. Optimally Chet plays last year and doesn't miss a year of actual court play with his teammates, but it is very much an advantage compared to true "first year" rookies.
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Papes posted:I see this narrative a lot and I really do not understand it. But if the two choices are go right into a rookie year, or spend a year studying the game and being around the team, the latter is going to be a better “rookie.” By any metric.
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not being able to play basketball for a year doesnt help you. you can silver lining it into a positive but at the end of the day it's still a negative even if you can observe and absorb the nba game close up
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runaway pancake posted:not being able to play basketball for a year doesnt help you. you can silver lining it into a positive but at the end of the day it's still a negative even if you can observe and absorb the nba game close up It doesn't help you specifically. No. Playing is always better. However comparing a player who was around their NBA team and learning and training with their teammates for a year, to a player who just showed up on their team, and has to learn their teammates and have their teammates learn them, the former is generally going to have a baseline advantage.
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People are trying to make a completely different argument is bizarre. Whether this was good or not for Chet is not the argument and not relevant at all
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Dexo posted:It doesn't help you specifically. No. Playing is always better. absolutely, i agree, it just seems like people are discounting the negative effects of not being able to run up and down a court for a year. the dude didn't break his pinkie on his offhand. missing 1 of the 8 years you've been playing basketball is a lot of development time to miss and i dont think it's completely mitigated by watching film with your team and having a nutritionist.
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I don't think we've talked about this itt but this'll probably be cool https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1750733334047605197?s=20
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Shear Modulus posted:I don't think we've talked about this itt but this'll probably be cool my mom mentioned this and i didnt believe her. sorry mom anyway, three point contest continues to be the best all star event
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runaway pancake posted:absolutely, i agree, it just seems like people are discounting the negative effects of not being able to run up and down a court for a year. the dude didn't break his pinkie on his offhand. missing 1 of the 8 years you've been playing basketball is a lot of development time to miss and i dont think it's completely mitigated by watching film with your team and having a nutritionist. Except he spent like 6 months on the shelf, he was back fully practicing and doing basketball things around March last year. And then he had a fully healthy offseason.
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Dexo posted:Except he spent like 6 months on the shelf, he was back fully practicing and doing basketball things around March last year. And then he had a fully healthy offseason. And instead of that, if he was playing pro ball in france and learning from their very capable coaches and training staff he'd be even better right now. It is wild that being on the shelf is being spun as some kind of benefit.
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Papes posted:I see this narrative a lot and I really do not understand it. No one said that? But someone's body (especially someone like that) is different at 19-20 than it is at 21-22. That helps. I think almost certainly at 22 Wemby is going to be better than Chet is right now, but that's not the question. The question is Chet better right now, and it's close! runaway pancake posted:not being able to play basketball for a year doesnt help you. you can silver lining it into a positive but at the end of the day it's still a negative even if you can observe and absorb the nba game close up You're mixing up "Good for your career" and " whether or not those first 80 games will be better." It's better to play, but you still will see development. It's why 22 year old rookies typically are better players despite never playing at the NBA level. Also, real life isn't 2K, you're going to get better being around a team, going through full off-season workouts, being able to focus entirely on your body and your game at an NBA level (which is better than College and FIBA). Papes posted:And instead of that, if he was playing pro ball in france and learning from their very capable coaches and training staff he'd be even better right now. It is wild that being on the shelf is being spun as some kind of benefit. That age Wemby spent in France Chet spent playing college ball. Chet has had more years on the planet to develop.
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Lockback posted:No one said that? But someone's body (especially someone like that) is different at 19-20 than it is at 21-22. That helps. I think almost certainly at 22 Wemby is going to be better than Chet is right now, but that's not the question. The question is Chet better right now, and it's close! Yes, people are saying that chet being in meeting rooms in a walking boot and lifting weights with the team is more valuable than playing pro ball in france for a year. In this very thread even. Playing pro ball in france is undoubtedly better experience than playing second fiddle to Drew Timme in college too. The age thing is legitimate and why Wemby should be viewed as a better prospect long term...but they both rule and the nba is in good hands for another generation.
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Papes posted:Yes, people are saying that chet being in meeting rooms in a walking boot and lifting weights with the team is more valuable than playing pro ball in france for a year. No they didn't. They said almost 22 years of being on the planet is better than barely over 20 even if 1 of those is spent like that.
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Shear Modulus posted:I don't think we've talked about this itt but this'll probably be cool Will they standardize on a ball size and 3pt line distance? Or each shoots to their standard?
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Shear Modulus posted:I don't think we've talked about this itt but this'll probably be cool It's nice to see the WNBA treated as literal athletes and not some carny roadshow occasionally getting some scraps thrown their way like getting invited to the celebrity NBA game teams.
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Paying2Lurk posted:Scoot got the 2K commercial. Wrap it up Wembailures and Chetailers. my pick for ROY, scootie henderson, will be vindicated
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