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I think Dave Meltzer should pet his dog. I pet my dog. I love to pet my dog. What's Dave's deal.
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Mark being an expert in wrestling relationships IRL was very surprising, also, I admit I laughed "they have a kid named roo, first name kanga"
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Jan 28, 2024 10:34
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g  this sounds exactly like a joke that would be done with AI Meltzer holy poo poo
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Jan 28, 2024 12:47
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g lmao hes the greatest
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Jan 28, 2024 12:51
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Write the book about Vince, Dave. Even if you need ghost writers to sort through your audio thoughts. It is the magnum opus.
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Jan 28, 2024 14:09
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Never change, Dave.
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Jan 28, 2024 14:29
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g lol
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Jan 28, 2024 14:57
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g The king.
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Jan 28, 2024 15:10
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That was the first thing I heard when I woke up, great start for the day
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Jan 28, 2024 15:44
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TelevisedInsanity posted:Write the book about Vince, Dave. Even if you need ghost writers to sort through your audio thoughts. I hope an actual journalist writes it at this point, maybe one of the WSJ writers who broke the story gets a leave of absence. That way it's just about the real Vince.
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Jan 28, 2024 18:51
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the problem with an outsider is without the knowledge of the wrestling industry they could fall into the trap of thinking wrestlers are honest once you get behind the veil of kayfabe. the Andre book did a good job of not doing that-multiple times it referenced a tall tale then went beyond that into the real story with references with Vince though, his hidden power lies within wrestling being a bullshit carnival that no one takes seriously so no one cares about his clown rear end compared to real sports. a focused outsider could do a great job just tearing into it all
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Jan 28, 2024 18:59
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g I just started the podcast and I'm immediately came here to post that. lol
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Jan 28, 2024 19:03
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Whoolighams posted:the problem with an outsider is without the knowledge of the wrestling industry they could fall into the trap of thinking wrestlers are honest once you get behind the veil of kayfabe. the Andre book did a good job of not doing that-multiple times it referenced a tall tale then went beyond that into the real story with references Meanwhile Dave has given his friends like Triple H the kid glove treatment for decades.
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Jan 28, 2024 19:17
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yeah daves not immune to giving preferential treatment to his sources. see: the entire matt riddle situation
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Jan 28, 2024 19:22
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Not four minutes in to the B&V Rumble recap and Mark, wheezing and grunting like a weird third-grader as always, is talking a bunch about mucus
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Jan 28, 2024 19:23
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D.N. Nation posted:Not four minutes in to the B&V Rumble recap and Mark, wheezing and grunting like a weird third-grader as always, is talking a bunch about mucus Yeah he’s the best
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Jan 28, 2024 19:25
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Joey McChrist posted:yeah daves not immune to giving preferential treatment to his sources. see: the entire matt riddle situation But the big reason an outsider should write it: This should not be a book about pro wrestling it should be a book about a company where everyone was complicit in looking the other way or encouraging abuse for decades. This should be what we got in Unscripted last year, where Sumner Redstone's business accomplishments are a short backstory and the first third is about what a completely vile man he was, and the final third is similarly about Les Moonves. At most it should be Barbarians at the Gate where the backstory is basically a chapter every time a new character gets introduced but the meat is what brought it down. A book on Vince needs to be an exhaustive history of Vince for the piece of poo poo he is.
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Jan 28, 2024 19:28
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It's really tough trying to figure out who should write the book as it were, because they'd need enough knowledge of wrestling to inherently know how to parse bullshit and see it as more than a curiosity, but not so much that they get lost in their fandom. They'd need to know that the surface level shocking stuff is just that, surface-level, and it's just such a messy walled garden of a thing, you know? That Ringmaster book from last year was a little disappointing for that reason. Despite covering a lot it never felt like it extracted the meat that it should have and the conclusions it drew were so laser-targeted on political influence that it didn't adequately cover, well, a lot of the other things that are worth covering. I dunno the solution, really. It'd need to have a lot of sources, I guess.
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Jan 28, 2024 19:31
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I should do it
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Jan 28, 2024 19:32
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A 10 part Dark Side of the Ring
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:It's really tough trying to figure out who should write the book as it were, because they'd need enough knowledge of wrestling to inherently know how to parse bullshit and see it as more than a curiosity, but not so much that they get lost in their fandom. They'd need to know that the surface level shocking stuff is just that, surface-level, and it's just such a messy walled garden of a thing, you know? The Ringmaster book is just a mess and someone with abuse allegations against them should have never been the one to write it.
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Jan 28, 2024 19:34
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its tough especially with wrestling history and how just off the wall and insane it winds up being. a lot of books on the 'history' feels less like pulling off/seeing through the veil and more like a cheap collection of 'remember when?' you've gotta find a great middle ground.
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Jan 28, 2024 19:36
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Probably the best solution for the Vince book is you have a writer with experience doing these type of expose books but team them up with an editor/co-writer that has knowledge of wrestling to help cut through wrestling bullshit Also of note in WOR today that Dave is considering doing a recall vote on Vince
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Jan 28, 2024 20:10
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MassRafTer posted:The Ringmaster book is just a mess and someone with abuse allegations against them should have never been the one to write it. whoa, what abuse allegations? I quit Twitter years ago but Reisman followed me for ages and I never caught any of that.
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Jan 28, 2024 20:31
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any loreheads know what the dog is called
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Karma Tornado posted:whoa, what abuse allegations? I quit Twitter years ago but Reisman followed me for ages and I never caught any of that.
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Jan 28, 2024 21:00
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:Same here, and after searching around for a bit I can't find anything about it at all. When was this supposed to have happened? Her dead name was on the lovely Media Men list which makes it hard to google. This was the entry. quote:gave a woman a black eye, dm harasser, emotionally abusive, loses his poo poo at women in a public fashion This was pre-transition hence the pronouns.
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Jan 28, 2024 21:03
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g Probably an all-timer from Dave.
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MassRafTer posted:Her dead name was on the lovely Media Men list which makes it hard to google. This was the entry.
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MassRafTer posted:Her dead name was on the lovely Media Men list which makes it hard to google. This was the entry. great. well now I can move my "very slight reccomend with many qualifiers" down to "pass"
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Whoolighams posted:great. well now I can move my "very slight reccomend with many qualifiers" down to "pass" Yeah the release of that was quite a roller coaster. "Oh this sounds interesting." Then seeing passages from it that looked awful, but other better things and still thinking about buying it, and then learning that news. The comparison between Unscripted which came out a few weeks prior and what I know of Ringmaster (ignoring who the author is) is stark.
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Dave going full Frank Lampard is outstanding.
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I read Ringmaster and it lost me after it became a Wikipedia plot summary of the attitude era
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MancXVI posted:I read Ringmaster and it lost me after it became a Wikipedia plot summary of the attitude era it really does feel like they didn't have a full arc of a book at all. it cobbles a half-rear end Vince biography, attitude era sleaze recounting, and a Vince/Trump comparison that never developed well there's so much there to dig into and time keeps adding more there to be discovered if you tried! it reminds me of the prosecution during the steroid trial: so confident it would be an easy slam dunk that they ended up completely underperforming
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Apparently Dave said that if Jerry McDevitt were still WWE's lawer that he'd have been sent a full background check on the victim the next morning. He kind of has to tell us when this happened before.
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MassRafTer posted:Apparently Dave said that if Jerry McDevitt were still WWE's lawer that he'd have been sent a full background check on the victim the next morning. He kind of has to tell us when this happened before. There's so much more that Dave knows that he hasn't said but has hinted at, and there's probably so much more that Dave doesn't know as well. He really needs to put everything into print that he has at some point. This also has me wondering more on McDevitt's fall out of favor. Was it all related to the MLW suit or does this have something to do with it too?
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From all reports McDevitt just wanted to retire and didn't fall out of favor but the timing is curious. It does make one wonder if Vince told him he was gonna ignore the NDA and McDevitt just kinda of shrugged and wanted out The MLW case wasn't really a loss as it was more TKO/WWE wanting it to go away cause they have bigger lawsuits to worry about that they can't settle. Though again, the timing is curious as everyone thought it was about the Cung Le suit but what if it's also cause of this as well
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Seams posted:https://x.com/paul_r_mcdonald/status/1751553213528953179?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g Incredible Lampard-Pivot there from Dave. Best to ever do it
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