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Lord Stimperor posted:I thought Frontier was winding down E:D development, i.e. E:D would mainly see maintenance? No one actually knows what FDev is doing with Elite because Frontier is absolutely terrible at communicating anything. Anything said up till now is mostly just people speculating on things like financial reports. They have a live stream on the 31st that may reveal update 18 and should give us an idea of what's going on for the future of Elite.
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i would give frontier more money if they added something meaningful to teh game DO U HEAR ME FRONTIER??
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I can't wait to play on the goon homebrew elite server.
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Natsuumi posted:No one actually knows what FDev is doing with Elite because Frontier is absolutely terrible at communicating anything. Anything said up till now is mostly just people speculating on things like financial reports. Yeah, they are, incredibly, worse at this than CCP. At least the makers of EVE Online tell their players what they're planning to do, often half a year or longer in advance. I play more Elite than EVE, but I still have a better idea where EVE is going than Elite.
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Lord Stimperor posted:I thought Frontier was winding down E:D development, i.e. E:D would mainly see maintenance? elite has been in a hold pattern since the titan pulse neutraliser was introduced. since then a lot of people have departed fdev including the majority of their community management team. the gist is that fdev was hemorrhaging money and stock price from their other games and licensing deals and downsizing in response. elite hasn't made them a ton of money since odyssey, but it isn't losing them money either, afaik. last week they kicked off a thargoid themed CG that spurred a lot of interest in the resumption of the titan storyline. sometimes these fetch quest CGs having to do with ramtah concludes in a new goid module. players are hoping that this is proof that fdev is moving to push the storyline forward. like other goons have stated, fdev has always been poo poo at communication. supposedly update 18 has something very cool that will be a new addition to the game. some players are also hoping it includes whatever major game design rework that fdev promised years ago. no one knows anything for sure and its wild speculation and hopes and dreams at this point. maybe they've finally finished the panther clipper.
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Worf posted:i would give frontier more money if they added something meaningful to teh game literally this lmao
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iirc they also laid off the guy who implemented the cool new feature lol
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Worf posted:i would give frontier more money if they added something meaningful to teh game imho the elite world is too big and scattered for the company to make it "meaningful." For years, my ~Dream Feature~ has been some sort of level editor where users could create quests with storylines: create NPCs and little dialogue trees, have npcs appear at fixed locations, be able to control some events (if player goes to location, spawn 15 pirates), etc. That's the only way i can see enough interesting content getting generated to keep users invested i was trying to see if I could accomplish a jankier version of something similar in a web app - the player would need to keep a phone / ipad open while playing the game, and they'd need to enter codes at certain points to advance the story - but i could not for the life of me figure out a way to make it work besides the honor system
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Polo-Rican posted:imho the elite world is too big and scattered for the company to make it "meaningful." For years, my ~Dream Feature~ has been some sort of level editor where users could create quests with storylines: create NPCs and little dialogue trees, have npcs appear at fixed locations, be able to control some events (if player goes to location, spawn 15 pirates), etc. That's the only way i can see enough interesting content getting generated to keep users invested Something like Mario Maker in Space? That would have been fun. Imagine setting up your own little questlines and then sharing them with people. 
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Give me FRED or give me death (FReespace EDitor, was great fun to muck around with in and make missions)
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New from the stream thingy:quote:* Update 18 will be the crescendo to the war, with attacks on Titans and a possible victory Python Mk.2  
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i wouldn't piss on powerplay if it was on fire. this is great news
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Python MK2? But it was already the best ship??
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:i wouldn't piss on powerplay if it was on fire. this is great news This is  so it may as well end up even worse
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pik_d posted:Python MK2? But it was already the best ship?? its very possible the mk2 will be worse than the mk 1 knowing fdev so, it may continue to be the best ship that being said im pleasantly surprised by all of this. maybe they finally figured out ships = ship skins = money
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That seems much better than what everyone was anticipating from the event, huh?
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Mokotow posted:That seems much better than what everyone was anticipating from the event, huh? yeah. tho in all fairness fdev has given us really zero reason to have much hope for this type of change. i hope whatever power play/gameplay feature there is is actually enticing to play for me. ive been getting the itch to fly around lately
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they wont, but by golly maybe they'll right this ship this year. very, very optimistically, this could be a big year for elite how long has it been since new ships? 5+ years?
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I'm pretty thrilled with the news that we're getting new stuff and that they aren't just shutting the game down. I am excited for the Powerplay rework, hopefully it will make Powerplay more like I thought it would be the first time. It is in theory very cool to be able to do poo poo for a power to influence things and if the rework lets me do a realistic job of helping some dudes I like functionally take over a system in a way that isn't spreadsheeting out 5,000 missions before a server tick or whatever, I'll be happy. My expectations are appropriately low, but I am excited at least. I am also quite excited about whatever the totally new feature will be. I hope it's expanded planetary landings  Just happy my favorite dumb space game is getting continued love instead of being chucked in a garbage bin at this time. All things must end but I get to putter around the galaxy for a while longer yet and I'm even getting some new toys to do it with. I'll show some support of this news and buy some ARX when I get home, there are some cool skins I want to pick up for a miner I want to build.
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Worf posted:its very possible the mk2 will be worse than the mk 1 knowing fdev so, it may continue to be the best ship true, as EVE has proven: sprinkle in new ships every so often and your dumb spaceship game will survive for 20+ years, regardless of its many, many flaws it always baffled me that Frontier didn't try to introduce more ships faster it's a space ship game add space ships also, two space cars and like 3 space suits? the hell is that poo poo , at least milk that crap, I want 500 ships, 100 space cars, at least 50 different suits and of course 5000 guns/tools/sonic screwdrivers for my space people to play around with
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Python mark 2? The Python was canonically outdated in Elite 1 and its replacement already had a drat name. It's the Boa.
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It seems adding space legs completely broke them, which is funny considering the first image Braben released in the late 90’s to announce Elite 4 development was a running chick.
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Dabir posted:Python mark 2? The Python was canonically outdated in Elite 1 and its replacement already had a drat name. It's the Boa. yeah, but it's not the 80s anymore the current Python was a system defense corvette, not a transport ship like the original Elite thought I'd be funny if the four new ships turn out to be Python II, Boa, Python III and Panther Clipper
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lol i just read that the python mk2 is large landing pad size (i checked reddit to see how ppl were reacting to this) i hope that person is wrong af because if not Worf posted:its very possible the mk2 will be worse than the mk 1 knowing fdev so, it may continue to be the best ship lol E: multiple ppl there are claiming its a L-arge size ship. thats lame af if so Worf fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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The ship looks sick but historically in terms of "version increments that are worth using as anything other than a meme ship" they're at 0/2, with the Cobra IV and the T10 The real comedy option is if the extra wing space it looks like that has puts it in the same category as the T7 and bumps it from "a good medium ship" to "a bad large ship" e: Worf posted:lol i just read that the python mk2 is large landing pad size (i checked reddit to see how ppl were reacting to this) holy poo poo lol
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another imperial clipper why WHYYYY altho im still excited for it, idgaf. i suspect itll be a sidegrade-ish from anaconda. also if theres another solid medium ship coming then my whines are moot anyway Worf fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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Worf posted:another imperial clipper the problem here is that they seemingly don't dogfood enough to know why some ships are better than others, so even if they get past the "we need to balance ships so that they're good in some categories and bad in other categories" and want to make something that's just Unambiguously Better, it's a crapshoot if it'll actually be better and as far as I know, that's not a mindset they've really moved past, so instead of making "balanced" ships they just make ones that are no-holds-barred worse than the existing ones
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i can already make some assumptions about python2. 2x class 4 hard points, 2x class 2- or 3-4x class 1, less versatile interior, worse maneuverability, 30% more expensive across teh board. probably 70 hull hardness and 8 utility slots. probably will appeal to ppl that wanted a compromised fedvette w better jump range maybe slightly stronger weaponry than i give it credit for but not much. at best 2x 4, 1x 3, 2x 2
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Dabir posted:Python mark 2? The Python was canonically outdated in Elite 1 and its replacement already had a drat name. It's the Boa. Why does every other ship need to be named after a godammned snake, what is with these people
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Look there's only so many badass ways to name a ship when your design ethos hasn't evolved from "aggressive triangle" in 45 years Altho i guess there's some mean looking squares now too E: and if you start looking at their non snake named ships contemporary to the boa you end up with the gecko and the gnat lmao Worf fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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I'm guessing the python 2 will be the first 4x large hardpoint 'medium' ship, you can see what looks like 3 on top and it might keep the current one under the chin. There's what looks like a medium slot on the top left as well, which we can assume would be mirrored on the other side. Maybe 4L2M or something, which is pretty strong (significant for gimballed AX weapons). No visible utility slots, but only the zorgon mediums have more than 4 before you get to the big ships, so I'd say 6 max, but feasibly just 4 like usual because they tend to trade off optional internals against utilities until you get into Anaconda territory. Will be interesting to see what they do with it. Tommy the Newt fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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Wheres the boomslang
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ZeusCannon posted:Wheres the boomslang Beltalowda is that way
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The Boa was a freighter right? should be a no brainer easy addition.
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I want a medium freighter that isn’t a python with more storage than a python Sadly the python would almost assuredly be better, unless it had substantially more storage. The hull hardness and jump range on that ship are quite nice Worf fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Feb 4, 2024 |
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smug jeebus posted:Why does every other ship need to be named after a godammned snake, what is with these people
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Worf posted:I want a medium freighter that isn’t a python with more storage than a python That's what the Type-7 should be, and all it would take is knocking off the meter or so of height that prevents it from using a medium pad
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Jabarto posted:That's what the Type-7 should be, and all it would take is knocking off the meter or so of height that prevents it from using a medium pad yea but fdev is too dumb
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Jabarto posted:That's what the Type-7 should be, and all it would take is knocking off the meter or so of height that prevents it from using a medium pad I'm still wondering if the Panther Clipper would already be in the game if the thing presumable needs to be slightly wider and higher than the standard slots allow. Makes me think how much work it would be to go through all station assets and make the entry points a good chunk larger.
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