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And saying “gently caress”
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Larryb posted:Have they announced whether there’s going to be any significant changes to the base game in addition to the new Shadow story? Dunno, but if there's any game where you can go gently caress it and throw some new poo poo in, it's Generations.
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Italax posted:The playable Tails, Amy and Knuckles in the Frontiers DLC also feels like it was a test for the next 3D project, so I wonder if the next new game will be more like the Adventure/06 games with having multiple playable characters from the outset 🙏🙏🙏
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I hope at the end of this one Modern Sonic regenerates into Post-Modern Sonic.
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Larryb posted:Have they announced whether there’s going to be any significant changes to the base game in addition to the new Shadow story? The product description seems to imply it's a straight remaster of the original game, so it's more of a Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury situation. I wouldn't be surprised if they made small changes like removing lives or adding the drop dash though, especially since Sega seems to be pushing this as their next big release rather than a remaster with extra content
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MikeJF posted:So apparently this kind of title is meant to be said "Sonic Cross Shadow Generations"? Umm actually it's said "Sonic Shadow Generations" quote:Play as Shadow the Hedgehog in a brand-new story campaign... "Newly remastered versions of iconic 2d and 3d stages" makes me think it means actual, new stages, unrelated to the Shadow Campaign? And the 2D part would suggest stages from a pre-Shadow era? But it could just be a weird way of wording "we remastered the stages from Generations" Like, I'm assuming: Shadow campaign will be a mixture of existing levels from generations plus the new ones, with Shadow related boss fights (Black Doom and Biolizard) and then I assume the new Shadow stages might also be playable as Sonic, maaaaaybe outright having both 2D and 3D versions? And "Bonus content" is probably just new missions related to the new stages, updated sound test, and maybe some extra fluff, like the Casino Night pinball that was a preorder bonus in the original. Though the bit Shadow having "never before seen powers and abilities" makes me wonder if Shadows levels will be designed specifically for him, or if all his levels will have variants for him. (That said, my expectations for new content are a bit on the low side) Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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Simsmagic posted:The product description seems to imply it's a straight remaster of the original game, so it's more of a Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury situation. I wouldn't be surprised if they made small changes like removing lives or adding the drop dash though, especially since Sega seems to be pushing this as their next big release rather than a remaster with extra content I’m hearing there might be some new side missions as well. I fully expect them to get rid of the lives system though since they haven’t been a thing in the series since Mania Hopefully they make the Time Eater fight a little less irritating as well
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I wonder how the game will handle Shadow in the cutscenes he previously was in, and who will now give Sonic the drat fourth Chaos Emerald.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I wonder how the game will handle Shadow in the cutscenes he previously was in, and who will now give Sonic the drat fourth Chaos Emerald. Pretty sure the only parts Shadow appears in the base game are the fight with him, the scene before the Time Eater fight, and the ending (and he only really gets lines during the second one) https://twitter.com/UltiB247/status/1752938989462356464 Larryb fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:I hope at the end of this one Modern Sonic regenerates into Post-Modern Sonic. Sonic Bi-generates, which echoes back along his past, and we finally get Classic Shadow
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Larryb posted:Pretty sure the only parts Shadow appears in the base game are the fight with him, the scene before the Time Eater fight, and the ending (and he only really gets lines during the second one) It’s been a while since I played but I think he was also at the birthday party.
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Detective No. 27 posted:It’s been a while since I played but I think he was also at the birthday party. Nope, pretty sure Shadow and Silver weren’t there in the beginning but do pop up at the end
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I think I posted this a while back in the thread, but I have a shortlist of one additional level per game I'd like to see given the Generations treatment... SONIC 1 - Starlight Zone - Probably the second best level in the game after Green Hill. While I'm also a fan of the aesthetics of Spring Yard I know that one's more polarizing SONIC 2 - Casino Night - One of the major, recurring level themes that was missing from the original release of Generations was the casino/pinball stages. While they ended up including this level as DLC, it was only a themed pinball machine instead of a proper stage and I think this is a good time to rectify that. SONIC 3&K - Ice Cap Zone - The roadblock to this one is, of course, the licensing rights to the level track, because it would just not be the same without it. SONIC ADVENTURE - Emerald Coast - It always feels like a bit of a cop-out to select the first stage in the game, but the iconic Orca chase and at the time new beach theme really do make this level stand out. SONIC ADVENTURE 2 - Space Colony ARK - I mean, it's kind of the central set piece of the whole game? SONIC HEROES - Egg Fleet - I feel like the concept of Generations pretty much requires you to show off the Egg Carrier in some capacity and, given we didn't do so with the Adventure level, this seems like a good excuse to do so. Alternatively Hang Castle would make a good choice. SONIC 06 - Kingdom Valley - 06 is actually kind of a hard one to pick levels from, and not for the reasons you'd expect. The majority of its levels are basically just rehashes of stages we've already seen in previous 3D Sonic titles: Wave Ocean is just Emerald Coast again, Dusty Desert takes elements from Hidden Base and Pyramid Cave, White Acropolis is Ice Cap, Flame Core is Red Mountain and Tropical Jungle is Green Forest. Of the levels that feel original to the game, Kingdom Valley is probably the most distinct overall and really feels like a level designed to be used in pre-release marketing to hype the game SONIC UNLEASHED - Dragon Road - This one has a really distinct theme you don't often see in a Sonic game. SONIC COLORS - Starlight Carnival - Colors has a relatively small selection of levels to choose from, but I think Starlight Carnival is the most visually impressive one to go with.
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Casino Night and Emerald Coast were in the 3DS version of Generations at least (then again, so were Radical Highway and the Biolizard and both of those appear to be present in Shadow’s story), the remaster also seems to be including Final Chase which covers the ARK as well
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What if they remaster/pull in levels from post Generations? I don't really expect it, but that could include: Lost World, Mania, Forces, Frontier and Superstars? Though, I feel like Frontiers doesn't have a ton of (good) visual identity to pull from, and I don't really know much about Lost World, Forces and Superstars. Basically what if Studiopolis, is what I'm saying.
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They should Generations-ize Pumpkin Hill.
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Funky Valentine posted:They should Generations-ize Pumpkin Hill. Or Sky Rail which takes place in the same location
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Larryb posted:Or Sky Rail which takes place in the same location Call the stage Sky Rail, but then have the level transition at the midpoint to night for a Pumpkin Hill style segment. Maybe even draw some parallels to the way Mushroom Hill has little transitions. Or have Act 1/2 be Pumpkin Hill/Sky Rail split, since rail grinding is more suiting of modern gameplay, and classic sonic could have a little more explorey Pumpkin Hill stage?
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If you're gonna take a stage from Forces, I think Arsenal Pyramid has to be the big one yeah? It's the only one I can be bothered to remember the name of, that's for sureItalax posted:The playable Tails, Amy and Knuckles in the Frontiers DLC also feels like it was a test for the next 3D project, so I wonder if the next new game will be more like the Adventure/06 games with having multiple playable characters from the outset I hope the next game makes the non-Sonic characters fun to play. They controlled like total rear end in the Frontiers DLC
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KingKalamari posted:I think I posted this a while back in the thread, but I have a shortlist of one additional level per game I'd like to see given the Generations treatment... Agree with most of this, but take either Red Mountain (mix in some Pumpkin Hill) or Sky Deck from SA1, get the beach theme from Wave Ocean in 06. Or maybe Ice Cap from SA1 to free up S3K to give Sandopolis or Lava Reef / Hidden Palace. Ooh but Flying Battery though . . . Man, Sonic 3K, Adventure, and Adventure 2 had some good level themes.
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The pinball machine DLC was as good as casino night deserves
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Since we're already getting Final Chase in the Shadow stuff, the hypothetical extra Sonic stage from SA2 has to be Metal Harbor imo
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Oxyclean posted:What if they remaster/pull in levels from post Generations? Honestly, studiopolis is the most likely one I can imagine, since Mania's a 'classic' genesis-series game like Generations was (partly) celebrating but also modern, if not Modern. And if they did Mania it'd probably be Studiopolis or Mirage, those are the most celebrated.
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For Frontiers they could probably just turn one of the hub worlds into a proper stage (or use the nondescript City stage from the Cyberspace sections)
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Oxyclean posted:Umm actually it's said "Sonic Shadow Generations" newly remastered versions means, the remaster is new. i think if we were getting new sonic levels that would've been advertised front and center
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Would be nice if they bring over the 3DS stages or better yet completely rework them. Copying the exact layout for the classic Genesis stages was a baffling decision.
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Palmtree Panic posted:Would be nice if they bring over the 3DS stages or better yet completely rework them. Copying the exact layout for the classic Genesis stages was a baffling decision. We’re getting Radical Highway and the Biolizard in Shadow’s story at least (which were both previously exclusive to the 3DS version)
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Oxyclean posted:Umm actually it's said "Sonic Shadow Generations" Um actually it's "Sonadow Generations"
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If you get all the red rings, it unlocks Sonic and Shadow’s son as playable.
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They should add levels from Advance 1-3 and the Rush games. And 3D Blast while they're at it. Actually, if you add Triple Trouble and Chaos, that's eight zones that correspond cleanly with the Genesis/Gamecube/Modern split in Generations... add in a Rivals level if you're desperate for a ninth for symmetry? But really, I doubt we'll get new content for the Sonics. I hope the Shadow stuff means we get some Omega content.
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Hell, toss something from Dream Team in there as well. Though to be serious I don't really expect much in the way of major additions to the main campaign here (as someone else said this basically looks like a 3D World/Bowser's Fury situation)
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KingKalamari posted:I think I posted this a while back in the thread, but I have a shortlist of one additional level per game I'd like to see given the Generations treatment... smdh, sleeping on Sonic CD Give us Wacky Workbench you cowards.
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If they include Red Mountain from SA, it better have the part where Sonic goes to hell.
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I really don’t think Sonic’s story is gonna have any new stages
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If they're making new stages for shadow then maybe they'll let sonic into his own versions of them, once the assets and big background landscapes are done that's a lot. (I guess it depends on if Shadow's gameplay is different enough to sonic's to be worth it) I wonder if they'll fix the drat audio/dialog/music volume levels. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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Shadow’s section looks likes it’s using Frontier’s engine, so it’s really doubtful that you’ll be able to play through any of its stages as normal Generations Sonic. I’m just hoping Shadow steers better than cyberspace Sonic did.
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None of you guys are addressing what's really important; the idea of getting Pumpkin Hill ~ Cash Cash RMX (I get that that era of sound team collaboration is over but I would hope that since they opened the trailer with the immortal City Escape classic remix they are at least receptive to the idea of continuing the spirit of the classic stage tracks)
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