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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He got gunned down by Sharon Carter. That was Henry Batroc the Leaper.
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Codependent Poster posted:It's his twin brother, but it's okay if you just call him Batroc. It would be like Batroc never even died!
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I watched Scott Pilgrim vs The World for the first time in like 10 years and I will never understand people who think Knives and Scott should have ended up together at the end, during the first ten minutes half the cast calls Scott out for being scum because he's dating a minor. A lot ink has been spilled criticizing the movie over Ramona being a Manic Pixie Dream Girl but at least she's an adult. edit: Also the movie is loving well cast. Arguably Michael Cera is the weakest choice, his mumble detached delivery comes off as a slightly less depressed George Bluth rather than the well meaning (but selfish) himbo that Scott is, which isn't to say he's bad in the movie just that he wouldn't be who I would cast. side_burned fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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Feb 2, 2024 05:29
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You should watch the Netflix animated adaptation, Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, now. Everyone works amazingly well as the voice cost, and even Cera is better for it. Without spoiling, it changes up some stuff and it’s very good.
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Cera as a VA for Scott is wildly better than Cera as a real actor for Scott, saying that as someone who loves his casting in the first place
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To be honest, the reason people come away from the movie thinking Scott and Knives would work at all is because the movie frames Knives really weirdly, the scene of their teamwork vs. Gideon being the most obvious example.
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I think Cera is a good Scott but yeah, he's better in the Netflix series. That whole cast is just bonkers though
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Arist posted:To be honest, the reason people come away from the movie thinking Scott and Knives would work at all is because the movie frames Knives really weirdly, the scene of their teamwork vs. Gideon being the most obvious example. The movie really needed this scene to spell everything thing out. 
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Feb 2, 2024 06:19
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side_burned posted:The movie really needed this scene to spell everything thing out. The plot of the film suffers a bit by taking place over the course of a week rather than a year and change of the books And also by being two hours instead of six books And that's fine! It tells a pretty drat good story considering what it's tasked to adapt
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I watched Scott Pilgrim in cinemas when it came out and it was one of my favourite films for a while. I was in my last year of highschool and I had read the books, so it was right up my alley. Back then actually good comicbook films were far and in-between so I had low expectations, even though I liked Edgar Wright. Sitting there in the cinema watching the opening scenes with my mouth agape like Knives looking at Sex Bob-Omb in the first scene of the film, it absolutely blew my mind. After almost a dozen watches I can say it's definitely a good film, though great Cera is definitely the weakpoint of the cast but he's far from bad. The first act is near perfect but the second act kinda drags and fumbles the Envy storyline a bit, it's only saved by Mae and vegan jokes. The third act fails to act as a completely satisfying conclusion but it's not bad. I think the film also suffers from the Seinfeld Effect where many of the things that were novel and good that it did were quickly copied in other films and gotten old. Gags like "villain talks about mundane things" is extremely trite these days. The anime was also decent and if nothing else, the first couple episodes made me have the same reaction I did to the film in highschool. If something can evoke teenage-level emotions in a man in their 30s and not via nostalgia it must be doing something right.
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I remember being incredibly disappointed with Scott Pilgrim after being a big fan of Shaun and Hot Fuzz. I just felt the entire thing was an exercise in style over substance. Little did I know it accurately foreshadowed the rest of Wright's output.
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Arist posted:To be honest, the reason people come away from the movie thinking Scott and Knives would work at all is because the movie frames Knives really weirdly, the scene of their teamwork vs. Gideon being the most obvious example. Which was a big part of the reason I was so stoked for Takes Off. finally a chance to do a Scott Pilgrim adaptation that has Ramona properly centered in the story... And then it did that just not in the way I expected...
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And the ages are still a problem.
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The movie's big problem is that it front loads a lot of good stuff. Chris Evans and Brandon Routh are so so good and happen one right after the other, so following that with stuff like the Japanese Twins who don't have any lines is anticlimactic
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As much as I like Scott Pilgrim in the comic, movie, game, and now series, the one thing that always puts me off is the "subspace highway". It feels like too much of a deep cut reference, that remains unexplained for how integral it is to the story, and also comes up too early before the audience is really primed for the other weirdness.
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Lobok posted:As much as I like Scott Pilgrim in the comic, movie, game, and now series, the one thing that always puts me off is the "subspace highway". It feels like too much of a deep cut reference, that remains unexplained for how integral it is to the story, and also comes up too early before the audience is really primed for the other weirdness. I feel that being just an accepted and unexplained part of the setting set's the stage for all the weirdness to come. If you can accept that, then coin deaths, hipster demon chicks, and vegan powers aren't a problem at all.
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Yeah especially how in the movie Ramona treats it like everyone uses it. It's there just go with it
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side_burned posted:I watched Scott Pilgrim vs The World for the first time in like 10 years and I will never understand people who think Knives and Scott should have ended up together at the end, during the first ten minutes half the cast calls Scott out for being scum because he's dating a minor. A lot ink has been spilled criticizing the movie over Ramona being a Manic Pixie Dream Girl but at least she's an adult. As others have said, the Netflix anime is a super good followup/Companion piece because it gives a lot more room for the secondary cast to have their own stories. And yea Cera is way better in the roll as a voice than an live action actor. The final act definitely feels rushed, mostly because the final volume wasn't out at the time and so they had to wing it. Also, not afraid to be as Toronto as fuuuuuuck.
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twistedmentat posted:As others have said, the Netflix anime is a super good followup/Companion piece because it gives a lot more room for the secondary cast to have their own stories. And yea Cera is way better in the roll as a voice than an live action actor. They weren't winging it. BLOM was heavily involved in the script development and gave them notes on how volume 6 was going to go, though he does say the movie ending is their ending, not his, and the writers' strike meant the shooting draft wasn't supposed to be the final draft.
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twistedmentat posted:The final act definitely feels rushed, mostly because the final volume wasn't out at the time and so they had to wing it. Also, not afraid to be as Toronto as fuuuuuuck. That begs the question why the screen writer thought Knives and Scott where a good idea. That being said screenwriters seem to have contempt for age of consent laws.
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glitchwraith posted:I feel that being just an accepted and unexplained part of the setting set's the stage for all the weirdness to come. If you can accept that, then coin deaths, hipster demon chicks, and vegan powers aren't a problem at all. But everything else is more obvious as a reference or is more... intuitive? And fun, for the most part.
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Lobok posted:But everything else is more obvious as a reference or is more... intuitive? And fun, for the most part. I think what you’re getting at is that it feels more like a narrative contrivance to get the plot to work instead of a fun detail.
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side_burned posted:That begs the question why the screen writer thought Knives and Scott where a good idea. That being said screenwriters seem to have contempt for age of consent laws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUq0HlMvQw0 Whatever do you mean
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Admiral Joeslop posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUq0HlMvQw0 You know that scene was one of the things I was thinking of when I typed that.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUq0HlMvQw0 I have so many questions
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SlimGoodbody posted:I have so many questions Well I feel like they laid out the law pretty clearly 
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SlimGoodbody posted:I have so many questions Are you saying you don't keep a laminated piece of paper in your wallet that explains age of consent laws, and then use it to incorrectly justify dating underage girls? Weird. You're really weird.
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As always, any questions in regards to Transformers: Age of Extinction can be answered simply and thusly: Transformers: Age of Extinction hates itself almost as much as it hates you for watching it.
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Phylodox posted:As always, any questions in regards to Transformers: Age of Extinction can be answered simply and thusly: Transformers: Age of Extinction hates itself almost as much as it hates you for watching it. Like all the Bayformers! except for Bumblebee
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Phylodox posted:Transformers: Age of Consent Laws
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Jamesman posted:Are you saying you don't keep a laminated piece of paper in your wallet that explains age of consent laws, and then use it to incorrectly justify dating underage girls? You can get the same point across with a laminated definition of the term Ephebophilia. Tells you just as much about the person and applicable across all states.
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Easier than carrying around a copy of Atlas Shrugged I guess
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That film is one of the 21st century’s finest satirical comedies, up there with In The Loop, and a hilarious example of the American mindset.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Another cast member on Thunderbolts has been replaced after the production delay due to the strikes interfered with their schedule for other contracted work. Now she's freed up to play Storm.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Peter Safran seemingly confirming the rumors that Aquaman is done, but Mamoa is in talks to play a different DC character (rumored to be Lobo). Several pages late here, but mine craft has been a thing for quite a while. I was excited initially, bc Rob from sunny and Wrexham was making it but he walked.
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iceyman posted:Now she's freed up to play Storm. What if the mystery character is storm? Thunderbolts and trying to integrate mutants?
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side_burned posted:That begs the question why the screen writer thought Knives and Scott where a good idea. That being said screenwriters seem to have contempt for age of consent laws. I mean, Edgar Wright does keep accidently filling his cast with sex pest.
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In the movie Knives' age is not given, and they reduced Scott's age to 22 (since Cera was younger still, at 21). A 22 year old (played by a 21 year old) dating a possible 18 year old isn't really that much of a big deal, whereas in the books IIRC Scott hit 24 while Knives was still 17. Knives' age was only revealed in volume 6. The movie was being written around the time of volume 4, with some notes from the author. At the time they were initially writing the movie, the plan for the book was that Scott ends up with *no one*. So making a happy ending where Scott ends up with Knives would not have seemed as much of a deviation. In the books Scott dated Ramona for longer than Knives, whereas in the movie the reverse is true, due to the compression to the timeline. Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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I feel like Cera played the role the way he did as a subverted expectations thing, like you come into it expecting a typical awkward loser Cera, then he punches Matthew Patel and there are a bunch of surprised reaction shots from the cast.
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