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redshirt posted:So is this an official "thing"? Is the US going around to various allies with the direct intention of doing swaps, so that other country will transfer material to Ukraine? Like with Greece the other day. In order to get around the pro-Russians in the US Congress. It sounds like a US military official described them doing it, so I would assume that it’s an official thing.
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Feb 2, 2024 16:53
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Dog piled by dog pals LIKE A DOG!!
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Feb 2, 2024 17:05
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Everyone always asks Whereasimov, but nobody asks Howasimov EDIT: Also - the US is thinking of sending weapons to Ecuador? Nicuaragua? Cuba? Venezuela? Aren't these not exactly friendly states? What alternate timeline is this? Is it a technique to scare the Republicans?
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Feb 2, 2024 17:09
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Tigey posted:Everyone always asks Whereasimov, but nobody asks Howasimov Who said anything about giving Cuba and Venezuela anything?
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Feb 2, 2024 17:12
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spankmeister posted:Who said anything about giving Cuba and Venezuela anything? The article. I saw that too Edit Commander of United States Southern Command Laura Richardson said in January 2023 that Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and six more Latin American countries possess Russian-made weapons and the country would be willing to swap these Russian weapons for US-made ones if said countries agree to transfer them to Ukraine.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:12
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bunnyofdoom posted:The article. I saw that too Oh I read over that, thanks. Still, the source is TASS. Which is the Russian state news agency. I would wait for confirmation from a reputable source.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:13
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Oh its TASS. The toilet news agency
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Feb 2, 2024 17:14
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Tigey posted:Everyone always asks Whereasimov, but nobody asks Howasimov One thing I think people will only credit Biden with after he leaves office is exactly how good he is at playing the political game. Obama fought for 8 years to get a sighing concession of a healthcare bill passed after giving the republicans everything they wanted on it and getting almost nothing in return. Biden has gotten serious impacts on student loans, infrastructure, and world security cooperation in 4, all in spite of republicans being even more intransigent babies than they were in 2008. e: goddamn mobile app cut off the second part of my post: I have serious doubts about conduits like Venezuela being used for something like this, but the US absolutely is using conduits for stuff like this. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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Feb 2, 2024 17:14
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It's TASS aka russian propaganda. Although I imagine the US would be happy to send weapons to Cuba and Venezuela very, very quickly.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:14
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mobby_6kl posted:It's TASS aka russian propaganda. Hmm, why would Russian propaganda make it seem like Cuba is working with the US to aid Ukraine? What's in it for them? The Russians.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:31
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 Lol every time you lock up your country's best missile engineers to make the rest of your population think your missiles are so good that the entire world is trying to steal or spy away the designs
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Feb 2, 2024 17:39
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HonorableTB posted:
It's like the idiot's version of operation paperclip.
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Feb 2, 2024 17:43
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Here's what General Richardson said:quote:If I talk to my number two adversary in the region, Russia. I mean, I've got of course the countries Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua with Russia relationships, but what I really look at - and six other countries by the way, so a total of nine that have Russian equipment in them and we're working to replace that Russian equipment with United States equipment. If those countries want to donate it to Ukraine or the cause that's happening and be able to replace that with US equipment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2ry5Xl7AhM&t=1135s The quote is real, but of course, no Latin American country ever donated equipment to Ukraine. Personally, I doubt she was being entirely serious, but you'd have to ask her.
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Feb 2, 2024 18:29
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HonorableTB posted:
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Feb 2, 2024 18:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Are... are those WWI weapons? I have no idea whether those pictures are real or a joke, but if Russia really is issuing mothballed Degtyarev MGs that'd be a big lol. It's from the 1920's and has a crappy, humongous drum mag flopping around on the top side which has to be in perfect condition to work at all.
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Feb 2, 2024 18:44
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And those Maxims are bad rear end for sustained fire being water cooled with a big cap to pack snow when in a pinch. And the article about one in a log bunker in Ukraine is neat but they really are obsolete being so heavy and having such a high profile for the gunner.
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Feb 2, 2024 18:52
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"So Putin is jailing the people who lied about their fake hypersonic missiles? What's wrong with that? They stole money from the government! This is what normal leaders would do."
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Feb 2, 2024 19:02
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Toxic Mental posted:"So Putin is jailing the people who lied about their fake hypersonic missiles? What's wrong with that? They stole money from the government! This is what normal leaders would do." i mean alot of it reminds me about the nazi wonder weapons and honestly most authoerterian run shitholes. Big leader wants wonder weapons to win the war he caused or will caused, nerds dont want to die on the front or get shot in the head so they make poo poo up and make some vague prototypes. if it melts the pilot or etc then who cares, they dont go to the front. also if not at war, just blow the grant money or whatever.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:14
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sauer kraut posted:I have no idea whether those pictures are real or a joke, but if Russia really is issuing mothballed Degtyarev MGs that'd be a big lol. The Maxims I can understand. They're hearty and can fire all day with a water jacket (I'd honestly take them over an M2 .50 cal depending on the situation*). Their internals are kinda weird, though. DP-28s, though, Jesus. There have got to be more RPKs or even RPDs in storage, right? We found all kinds of antique poo poo on insurgents in Iraq, but even they never seemed desperate enough to use one of those. *To be fair, I've heard the M2 iterations since I left the service have been better. Maybe I was unlucky or something, but I feel like I had to clear the chamber for every 20 rounds I fired out of one.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:15
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Flyinglemur posted:I'll bet you're a hoot at parties I'm great. I even understand rhyme and joke structure. It's crazy! What can you do other than failing at rhyming and failing witty retorts?
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Feb 2, 2024 19:22
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:The Maxims I can understand. They're hearty and can fire all day with a water jacket (I'd honestly take them over an M2 .50 cal depending on the situation*). Their internals are kinda weird, though. I feel like we'll find some weird automatic mosin nagant machinegun conversion at some point
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Feb 2, 2024 19:23
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LRADIKAL posted:I'm great. I even understand rhyme and joke structure. It's crazy! Let's not do this ok
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Feb 2, 2024 19:23
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Gentlemen you can't fight in here, this is the war thread
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Feb 2, 2024 19:38
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:The Maxims I can understand. They're hearty and can fire all day with a water jacket (I'd honestly take them over an M2 .50 cal depending on the situation*). Their internals are kinda weird, though. I was going to say pretty much about the same thing about Maxims and DP-28s; its a war, its a machine gun, and if they work and you have ammo for it, there is a use for it. They are craptastic and there are million better weapons but machine gun is always a machine gun, you are better off with crappy one than without one. EDIT: So that it is obvious; of course I hope that these are more trouble than worth it because they are at Russian hands. But if it still spits bullets it isn't automatically useless, even if they are ancient. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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Feb 2, 2024 19:52
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:
They absolutely do, but there is a catch. Early on, the USSR pristinely preserved all war material. All the WW2 surplus, captured equipment and the like got drowned in cosmoline, wrapped in waterproof blankets, crated and properly stored in good conditions. But after the system decayed, none of that was done anymore and all the stuff that became surplus at the fall of the state were just kind of left somewhere.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:53
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Der Kyhe posted:I was going to say pretty much about the same thing about Maxims and DP-28s; its a war, its a machine gun, and if they work and you have ammo for it, there is a use for it. They are craptastic and there are million better weapons but machine gun is always a machine gun, you are better off with crappy one than without one. Yes of course a machine gun is a machine gun and one is better than none. You just have to wonder why the 2nd stronkest military in the world doesn't have something less janky to hand out.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:58
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Tuna-Fish posted:They absolutely do, but there is a catch. Early on, the USSR pristinely preserved all war material. All the WW2 surplus, captured equipment and the like got drowned in cosmoline, wrapped in waterproof blankets, crated and properly stored in good conditions. But after the system decayed, none of that was done anymore and all the stuff that became surplus at the fall of the state were just kind of left somewhere. 
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Feb 2, 2024 19:58
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mobby_6kl posted:Yes of course a machine gun is a machine gun and one is better than none. You just have to wonder why the 2nd stronkest military in the world doesn't have something less janky to hand out. Because the marble statues in the dacha's owned by the military top brass need to be maintained regularly because of the Russian weather, and the bath house for dogs has mold issues that also costs money to fix.
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Feb 2, 2024 20:03
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Cosmoline is the great satan
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Feb 2, 2024 20:06
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Tigey posted:Everyone always asks Whereasimov, but nobody asks Howasimov Dead as fuckimov.
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Feb 2, 2024 20:13
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Dead as fuckimov. I choked 
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Feb 2, 2024 20:24
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Dead as fuckimov. Six feet under the Grassimov
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Feb 2, 2024 20:24
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Vladimir Putin is 6 million roaches in a poo poo-covered trench coat
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Feb 2, 2024 20:35
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It looks like Zaluzhny is gone after all.quote:The government of Ukraine has informed the White House that President Volodymyr Zelensky has decided to fire his top military commander, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, in what would be the most consequential personnel shake-up of the war, said two people familiar with the discussion.
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Feb 2, 2024 21:01
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He was made of 6 million Ukrainian POWs
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Feb 2, 2024 21:02
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It's been a bad 48 hours for Vlad  
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Feb 2, 2024 21:17
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 BRIDGE DEATH BRIDGE DEATH BRIDGE DEATH
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Feb 2, 2024 21:19
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GLSDB isn't going to cut it for bridge death but military warehouses, airfields, rail yards and vehicle depots are going to be having a very bad time. BTW Are these also getting that chickenshit "you cannot use these to hit targets inside Russia proper"-clause?
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Feb 2, 2024 21:23
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mobby_6kl posted:
 You know what would help to take out the Kerch bridge? Taurus. Alas, beer_war fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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Feb 2, 2024 21:25
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Der Kyhe posted:GLSDB isn't going to cut it for bridge death but military warehouses, airfields, rail yards and vehicle depots are going to be having a very bad time. They don't really have the range to hit stuff deep in Russia regardless. beer_war posted:
fingers crossed for someday soon 
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