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It's very sexy. I'll be in
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Man 2 years ago before we bought our first house I never thought about crawl spaces, now it’s something I’ve researched extensively and have spreadsheets about. Life comes at you fast.
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Feb 3, 2024 23:42
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I spend more time thinking about, planning, and working on the house than I do working. It's wild. If this whole IT thing doesn't work out I'm getting into home performance/ building science / whatever the gently caress you want to call it.
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Feb 3, 2024 23:50
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I have never had a crawl space. Is it just for being able to access pipes and wires and stuff by crawling around under the house?
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Feb 4, 2024 00:23
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I don’t have a crawl space maybe I should dig one out underneath my slab
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Feb 4, 2024 00:29
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Crawl space means you (probably) don't have a slab foundation for part or all of your house Our house is split level, the two story part is on slab but the single story part is on a grade so it's pier and beam with a perimeter foundation wall because.... I don't know why. I guess it was cheaper than building up the slope with earth And yeah it's pretty easy to access services there for most of it, it starts at about 5' high to start and tapers down to ~18" on the far end, if you're willing to drop down through a 2x2' Colin furze style secret hatch in the hall closet
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Feb 4, 2024 00:49
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Gunna start calling my basement my stand space.
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Feb 4, 2024 01:31
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GlyphGryph posted:I have never had a crawl space. Is it just for being able to access pipes and wires and stuff by crawling around under the house? It's how most houses were constructed in the USA until the 60s? 70s? The foundation of the house is pier and beam.
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Feb 4, 2024 01:50
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I didn't see my first crawlspace until I was probably 25, and then didn't live in another building with a crawlspace until like a dozen years later They're extremely uncommon in Texas, and probably most of the southwest?
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Feb 4, 2024 02:02
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Internet Explorer posted:I spend more time thinking about, planning, and working on the house than I do working. It's wild. If this whole IT thing doesn't work out I'm getting into home performance/ building science / whatever the gently caress you want to call it. I’ve actually looked into a building science degree since buying my house so I am right there with you. Pixel bruising is not nearly as cool to me anymore as net zero/passive building. Crawlspaces are both great and terrible, I don’t like basements but wouldn’t want a slab either but they generally are dusty, dirty, spider holes and I have to shake out all my clothes after going in.
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Feb 4, 2024 02:19
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I’ve only had to go into my crawl space like 3 times. It’s an absolute mess with uncovered dirt, pieces of hardwood and cement, but there comes a point where I find some peace laying there and contemplating all of my life.
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Feb 4, 2024 02:33
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My crawlspace isn't encapsulated but I've hauled many garbage bags worth of trash from it so now it's at least free of debris and "clean". It makes working and inspecting it a lot easier at least, but every time I emerge from it I'm covered in dirt and sand and it's pretty awful. I wish I could justify encapsulating it.
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Feb 4, 2024 02:39
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Unless my kid is in danger under the house as far as I'm concerned the crawl space is the spider's home. We have an agreement, they stay out of my home and I will stay out of theirs.
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Feb 4, 2024 02:49
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I was just visiting with my neighbor who said he spent a bunch of time in his crawl space digging up all the mud/clay, because his water pipe ran through there and had 3 leaks in it at various spots. The plumbers would come out, patch one leak, say they'd fix it and leave until he went down and did all the excavation himself.
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Feb 4, 2024 03:55
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H110Hawk posted:the spider's home. I like how this grammatically implies it's one spider, presumably a big motherfucker. Shelob setting up shop in your crawlspace.
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Feb 4, 2024 04:09
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Living in Texas means we all got boring rear end slab on grade with an attic that will murder you. I want a basement!
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Feb 4, 2024 04:43
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If you have a basement you will never get rid of anything. I'll leave it up to you whether this is a good or bad thing.
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Feb 4, 2024 05:20
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If you have a basement you have a place to store your canning.
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Feb 4, 2024 06:50
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Our basement is finished, that's a good way of not letting it be the area where you accumulate a bunch of crap. We still accumulate a bunch of crap but I bet it'd be way worse if we had the basement from Home Alone e: tbh we've talked about what it'd take to add an extension to our house, where the basement of said extension would be storage and the upper area would be a solarium off of our dining room. We'd have to tear down part of our deck (which really means tearing down the entire deck and replacing it with a slightly smaller one). Maybe some day QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Feb 4, 2024 |
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Feb 4, 2024 07:05
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Y'all are right, I encapsulated our crawlspaces and now they are nearly full of boxes. And prolly spiders. I bet the spiders love those boxes and moved right back in.
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Feb 4, 2024 08:35
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I dont know anyone with a slab OR crawlspace, wxcept my brother on the other side of the country who has a slab. Every house has a basement around here. It gives the radon somewhere to pool.
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Feb 4, 2024 14:15
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H110Hawk posted:It's how most houses were constructed in the USA until the 60s? 70s? The foundation of the house is pier and beam. This is exceptionally location dependent. The Northeast, in general, has always typically had basements. Cold areas in general are less likely to be peir and beam but still may have been a crawl space rather than a full basement. Then you have areas with expansive soils that have touble with anything but pier and beam or a slab. Or exceptionally wet area that are on actual pilings or a slab depending on if the water table sometimes becomes above grade.
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Feb 4, 2024 15:39
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At least with pier and beam you can jack the house up and shim the pier if it goes out of level. The house can float above the foundation a bit with some maintenance. When the north Texas clay gets saturated a slab turns into a floating barge and one end of the house will generally over 50+ years start to dip to one side. The house my dad built in the 1970s after... 3? 4? foundation repairs is more like "pier and slab" foundation. North Texas builders love slab because a team of six guys can pour and level two a day, probably more, but they're terrible long term. All my friends growing up, their living room or kitchen all had grotesque cracks in the corners where the room met the rest of the house due to slab on grade construction
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Feb 4, 2024 16:51
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Motronic posted:This is exceptionally location dependent. The Northeast, in general, has always typically had basements. Cold areas in general are less likely to be peir and beam but still may have been a crawl space rather than a full basement. Then you have areas with expansive soils that have touble with anything but pier and beam or a slab. Or exceptionally wet area that are on actual pilings or a slab depending on if the water table sometimes becomes above grade. I'm going to go with "Southern California post-WW2 tract homes are the entire nation." 
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Feb 4, 2024 17:24
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Mine (southern New Jersey, reclaimed swamp, sand all the way) was built in 1930 with a dirt-floor basement, no footers at all - they dug a pit and just built a cinderblock foundation wall directly on the sand. At the front was an outside porch, enclosed in the 50s, with a dirt crawlspace. In the early 60s they added a laundry room to the rear, also on a dirt crawlspace. So it's a full basement with front & rear crawlspaces. All I did was cover the dirt with 6-mil black plastic sheeting, serving three purposes: Allowed me to move around in there without getting filthy; Store boxes in there without attracting termites; To deprive the cats of the World's Largest Catbox. Didn't cost much.
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Feb 4, 2024 18:46
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Here in Seattle I've got a crawlspace. We have a standard poured concrete foundation. It's not very tall though, maybe 3' at the highest, I feel like all crawlspaces should be a minimum of 3-4' high so you can sit upright and move around on hands and knees vs literally crawling on your stomach. If you're claustrophobic you would not succeed down there. In the Midwest everybody had basements. While I would love having exposed systems in a conditioned space, and extra storage, I love my 1955 ranch and we live on a creek with a high water table so a basement would never have worked. I've thought about getting it sealed but out here it's a 50/50 in terms of what's preferred, vented or sealed.
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Feb 4, 2024 22:29
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When I lived in Western Alaska the new houses were built on compacted gravel pads on top of the tundra. Then on top of the gravel pad you had these cool spider web looking lattice support frames. Each point could be adjusted to level the building as it inevitably sunk somewhat into the permafrost.
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Feb 5, 2024 02:40
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My weekend was spent replacing this disaster with something that wouldn’t catch on fire. It was bad, folks!  I don’t even know how to explain the dryer side. There was a 4” hole in the drywall, a U made with elbows that went through a stud, and then it met the 25’ foil snake through a hole to the basement. It’s all metal now, is a lot straighter and way less saggy. It still vents through a basement window but I’ll get that fixed when I replace them.
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Feb 5, 2024 04:10
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Holy poo poo
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Good thing Gary used duck brand duck tape and not that expensive duct tape
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Feb 5, 2024 05:10
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Please send an errant spark into that and record it.
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Feb 5, 2024 05:18
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Yeah there’s no force on the plant that could keep me from piling that on my driveway and throwing matches into it.
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H110Hawk posted:Please send an errant spark into that and record it. Cyrano4747 posted:Yeah there’s no force on the plant that could keep me from piling that on my driveway and throwing matches into it. please don't do these things if you value the health of anyone nearby pmchem fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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Feb 5, 2024 13:24
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pmchem posted:please don't do these things if you the health of anyone nearby Is burning lint really that bad for you? Or is there something hosed up in dryer exhaust I don't know about?
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Feb 5, 2024 14:06
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burning anything is bad for you, let that driveway snake rip
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Feb 5, 2024 14:15
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That flexible vent is metallicized plastic isn't it? I would be concerned about what fun stuff would come out of just the vent material if it were burned. That said, I would probably cut a short section and light it just to satisfied my own curiosity about how much danger there was when it was in the wall.
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Feb 5, 2024 14:56
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I live in the country and have a burn barrel for a reason, maybe I'll try a small section this weekend. 
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H110Hawk posted:Please send an errant spark into that and record it. I have seen what that does to a house. It ain't pretty. And fun as it might be, don't ignite it. All kinds of lovely petrochemical/plastic textiles in there not to mention the plastic hose itself. You'll need a hand grenade to remove that from your driveway.
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PainterofCrap posted:I have seen what that does to a house. It ain't pretty. yeah. for context, depending how much lint is in there and how well it’s packed, it might be like lighting off a mini grain silo. worst case, burn fast boom. not safe.
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pmchem is right op, you should hide under the covers and weep instead
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