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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Zokari posted:

persona 5 didn't end with the characters using their magic powers to overthrow the japanese government and a bunch of people are still feeling betrayed by that
i mean im fine with that not happening i just wish it had anything really coherent to say on the matter at all

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Janissary Hop posted:

I guess I'm missing all the other jrpgs that depict the japanese justice system as a casino where the house always wins
phoenix wright

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i like the part of shadow hearts where the bad guy wants to blow up japan and the party goes 'that madman! he might accidentally blow up china while hes blowing up japan!'

Janissary Hop
Sep 2, 2012

Endorph posted:

phoenix wright

those are set in los angeles

Jon Irenicus
Apr 23, 2008


YO ASSHOLE

Zokari posted:

persona 5 didn't end with the characters using their magic powers to overthrow the japanese government and a bunch of people are still feeling betrayed by that

this but unironically

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
It's definitely a running theme in Ace Attorney but the actual plots tend to still be "the bad man got caught so everything is going to be fine" since the games aren't really about that.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

but what about the dark age of the law

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Phoenix Wright having to defend the Phantom Thieves in court would be a better plot than any actual Persona game.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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Ibram Gaunt posted:

I can't believe is 2024 and I'm playing one of my fav games of all time, remade for next gen. Truly we are blessed.

its so good. have u seen how they remade arqa block yet

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Funky Valentine posted:

Everyone says the dorm in the original is lit like that to provide ATMOSPHERE and VIBE but it's really because Itsuki was too cheap to buy new lightbulbs.

That's what you call "environmental storytelling"

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


The game looks fine lol, dick with your brightness settings

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Stux posted:

its so good. have u seen how they remade arqa block yet

That's cool and was pretty unexpected. I knew the blocks had very different appearances, but they actually change the various "room types."

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Stux posted:

its so good. have u seen how they remade arqa block yet

Not yet....I'm Hype.

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Zokari posted:

persona 5 didn't end with the characters using their magic powers to overthrow the japanese government and a bunch of people are still feeling betrayed by that

There has to have been a middle ground between that, and what we got where they were like “welp, I guess we gotta let the cops handle the rest and hope for the best”

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

like sae admitted to knowingly sending innocent people to jail to further her career (aka the same thing that ruined poker's life) and I don't remember anyone calling her on it. The theme of persona 5 is how about the myriad ways the status quo can gently caress you if you don't neatly fit into a box and none of it is fixed. It would be OK if the writers were going doing the cynical thing, but they just dropped it for they mystic poo poo.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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what else were you expecting, theyre kids. u thought the personas were goiung to start murdering politicians or something? u shoot god in the face with a big gun what more do you need lol

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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did you all lose your minds at the end of p4 as well or what

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Stux posted:

what else were you expecting, theyre kids. u thought the personas were goiung to start murdering politicians or something? u shoot god in the face with a big gun what more do you need lol

itd be badass if they did tbh

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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thats what smt is for

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

thus proving smt is better :twisted:

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Stux posted:

beacuse most people dont walk around their house in the dark wtf are you talking about. get a grip

Wow good job contributing to the energy crisis!!!

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

I think it would be epic if P5 had a more satisfying conclusion to its themes, much like Persona 3.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Stux posted:

what else were you expecting, theyre kids. u thought the personas were goiung to start murdering politicians or something? u shoot god in the face with a big gun what more do you need lol

i dunno the conclusion is a bit weird when you consider that japan has been run by the same political party almost continuously for like 60 years or some poo poo and the climax of the main plot of the game about being a rebel and overthrowing societal norms is that you use magic to make sure that they stay in power

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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i feel like some of you havbe misunderstood some very basic thing s about what is going on in that game lol

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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Endorph posted:

thus proving smt is better :twisted:

im trying to be civila bout it

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Kenji is still a dunkable character and I have no desire to go hang out with him.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
reload also gives him an unnervingly distinct chin. leno chin

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

would anyone have complained if they dumped some of these losers and included social links with the male party members?

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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yes. having characters you dont like is cool. i dont talk to kenji because hes a loving moron but replacing him with someone i like isnt fixing a problem. i dont like what he has to say but i will defend with my life his right to say it.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
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mass media is incapable of being revolutionary, and so anything trying to be has already been co-opted. Persona 5 was never going to be about the communist revolution, and hoping that it would be is delusional thinking

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Kenji is extremely cringe, but I don't think its even that bad of a thing because his social link ends with him getting owned.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



it's very funny that you can spend kenji's entire social link going "dude, no, that's loving dumb" and then at the end you were right, it was loving dumb

extremely realistic high school friendship arc, a lesser game would have insisted on some kind of twist along the way

jpmeyer
Jan 17, 2012

parody image of che
i dunno p3's gameplay directly contradicts its themes. the game thematically is trying to tell you "death comes for us all, treasure those fleeting moments while you can" but meanwhile the gameplay ends up like "idk there are literally no events for me to do today because the devs didn't tune the game enough so i'll just go to sleep until school starts back up i guess."

(or "i have only a few weeks left before the end, i guess ill spend that time doing homework and playing crane games.")

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

P3 Protagonist spending another SL-less night shooting himself in the head with the evoker just to feel something.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

there are a weirdly large number of completely unlikable social links in 3

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
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Zokari posted:

there are a weirdly large number of completely unlikable social links in 3

no. there are a weirdly small number of completely unlikeable social links in 4 and 5

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

did they add modern QoL stuff to P3 remaster, and is the social links max not so strict this time where you had to do every day perfect with no room for error.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



GateOfD posted:

did they add modern QoL stuff to P3 remaster, and is the social links max not so strict this time where you had to do every day perfect with no room for error.

yeah

in particular you no longer have to juggle cheating on half a dozen girls simultaneously and maintaining a strict rotation to avoid breaking links, which was the biggest issue with a perfect run of the original

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

jpmeyer posted:

i dunno p3's gameplay directly contradicts its themes. the game thematically is trying to tell you "death comes for us all, treasure those fleeting moments while you can" but meanwhile the gameplay ends up like "idk there are literally no events for me to do today because the devs didn't tune the game enough so i'll just go to sleep until school starts back up i guess."

(or "i have only a few weeks left before the end, i guess ill spend that time doing homework and playing crane games.")

That sounds like a skill issue....

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grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

hanging out with kenji and egging him on makes sense for your guy because you are playing as a teenager who has been told by the patron of his magical powers to go out and manipulate your way into people's good graces

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