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Arrath posted:I adore C&C but I will say it only really came into its own in RA2 and there was more differentiation between units than "4 flavors of tank with increasing cost and shootiness"
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Mordja posted:Turns out Starcraft's gameplay was always middling and outdated, saved by unique faction design, memorable campaigns, and psychopathic Koreans. C&C was always better, to say nothing of TA, the true choice for the discerning, forward-looking individual.  convincing the entire industry that the Blizzard style RTS was a good paradigm to follow is the worse crime of the studio after the actual crimes
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After playing TA where after some insane multi hour battle the whole battlefield is just clogged with so many wrecks you'd have to nuke them to clear a path to enemy...then going to Starcraft where at the end of a match the map is just empty was a shocker. Got a unit cap have to build houses can't just pump out basically infinite robots??
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Arrath posted:I adore C&C but I will say it only really came into its own in RA2 and there was more differentiation between units than "4 flavors of tank with increasing cost and shootiness" RA2 is sooo good and really where WW outdid themselves in every aspect. To the detriment of every game that came before and after.
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Assessor of Maat posted:
Legit.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:39
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Skill issue
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Idk, I like unit balance. It's nice.
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Feb 6, 2024 16:11
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I like watching my workers do their thing gathering resources while swatting away pesky flies trying to disrupt them. I like to build a pretty base and surround it with defensive structures. And then I like to build units from every facility and blob em up and send them to the other guy!
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I still watch korean starcraft broodwar matches to this day, and I was so into Company of Heroes 1 that when my cpu cooler died I just opened the case on it's side and angled a box fan at it, but the peak RTS game ever made was C&C Generals music: amazing faction diversity: crazy unit differences AND different generals for each faction unit upgrades: shoes & ak47s for everybody
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Deakul posted:I like watching my workers do their thing gathering resources while swatting away pesky flies trying to disrupt them. We've all been playing rts games wrong 
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Feb 6, 2024 18:56
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gently caress that looks nice and cozy. 
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The story behind it's even funnier, some guy on reddit is like "yeah I build a farm for all my unused herdables in the late game"
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appropriatemetaphor posted:After playing TA where after some insane multi hour battle the whole battlefield is just clogged with so many wrecks you'd have to nuke them to clear a path to enemy...then going to Starcraft where at the end of a match the map is just empty was a shocker. I've very recently gotten into Beyond All Reason and playing it makes me want to weep for the creativity this genre lost.
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Captain Beans posted:ak47s for everybody I can still hear this so many years later. The delivery is just too good.
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Alchenar posted:I've very recently gotten into Beyond All Reason and playing it makes me want to weep for the creativity this genre lost. Is BAR any good compared to TA or SupCom FAF? I've been hesitant to pick up any new ones in the genre to avoid the disappointment I had with SupCom 2
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Slaan posted:Is BAR any good compared to TA or SupCom FAF? I've been hesitant to pick up any new ones in the genre to avoid the disappointment I had with SupCom 2 BAR fuckin rules, just go download it
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Feb 6, 2024 21:23
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Slaan posted:Is BAR any good compared to TA or SupCom FAF? I've been hesitant to pick up any new ones in the genre to avoid the disappointment I had with SupCom 2 IMHO, BAR is definitely much better than SupCom2. BAR plays just like TA, but with many nice modernizations, QoL improvements, and some units and ideas from SupCom and (notetably, shields and experimentals). If you like TA, you'll like BAR (I know I do). If you are SupCom fan, I think you'll like it too. Though do note that BAR is a lot less turtle friendly than SupCom (but that's why I like it).
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Ugh, Petroglyph is still doing this crap? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlHeZn6yj7c The demo felt no different than the other 3 games except now it's just a worse Generals with the worst art style known to man.  Now this is some good loving RTS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5O6gJhS0-Q Age of Mythology/Warcraft 3 flavored, the demo is incredibly promising! Feels like a lot of heart was actually put into this. Deakul fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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Feb 6, 2024 21:25
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.BAR is yet another Spring engine game. How many TA remake on Spring engine do we need?
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I would say that BAR is excellent TA, but I miss some of the stuff that Supcom had (didn't like Supcom 2 which felt like a step backwards). I watched a lot of Supcom FAF during lockdown which I felt strangely soothing to watch, and I like the midgame stability that Supcom has before everyone starts their lategame pressure, where as with BAR it feels like most games one person will slip up slightly and the result will sudden immediate collapse and fail cascade across the team.
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Yeah BAR is great. Actually captures the feel of TA.
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Homeworld 3 demo is on Steam. I've just gone through tutorial so far, but it looks so nice...
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Kashwashwa posted:Homeworld 3 demo is on Steam. I've just gone through tutorial so far, but it looks so nice... Holy poo poo i didnt know they were doing a demo!!
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pedro0930 posted:.BAR is yet another Spring engine game. How many TA remake on Spring engine do we need?
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Woah the homeworld 3 demo is their multiplayer coop mode too!
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I haven't played BAR yet, does it somehow manage to escape that Spring Engine stank?
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Milo and POTUS posted:We've all been playing rts games wrong there's a guy on youtube who commentates on ranked aoe2 matches, but specifically games with low skilled players. he calls it Low Elo Legends. they are always really fun games. sometimes people will be building cute bases, or a player will do a strategy that's really novel but not meta at all, all sorts of weird poo poo.
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Is BAR close to coming to Steam? Really looking forward to it.
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Milo and POTUS posted:We've all been playing rts games wrong 
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I always play Poland in aoe2 because they have 3x3 windmills that line up perfectly with the 3x3 farms.
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Oh yeah, couple of nextfest RTS demos that I personally haven't played this go around but were pretty well-made in the past: Godsworn and Global Conflagration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5O6gJhS0-Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa4NxA21G5o
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VostokProgram posted:there's a guy on youtube who commentates on ranked aoe2 matches, but specifically games with low skilled players. he calls it Low Elo Legends. they are always really fun games. sometimes people will be building cute bases, or a player will do a strategy that's really novel but not meta at all, all sorts of weird poo poo. That's sounds fun. It's interesting that RTS games are "meant" to be played aggressively by expanding and attacking first. But you can play them as a not-quite-chill base builder/tower defense game.
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Revitalized posted:This is late, but here's one more: Symphony of War: The Nephilim Saga is really good. Then may I introduce you to https://store.steampowered.com/app/694770/Vestaria_Saga_I_War_of_the_Scions/ It's almost literally Fire Emblem because it's an indie game made by the former director of the old Fire Emblem games 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLujhLTK75g What game is this? I scrolled down and it says AoE2 but unless it's a mod (possible), it only looks vaguely close to it on land and water doesn't look anything like it
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Looks vaguely like the original Cossacks, but in a different language. https://www.gog.com/en/game/cossacks_anthology 
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Slaan posted:Is BAR any good compared to TA or SupCom FAF? I've been hesitant to pick up any new ones in the genre to avoid the disappointment I had with SupCom 2 BAR is fantastic and it's the only Spring-engine game I've played that genuinely feels like a TA successor. The art design, gameplay, and camera perspective all hit the right notes. Mordja posted:I haven't played BAR yet, does it somehow manage to escape that Spring Engine stank? imo yes it avoids that "ick" I always felt playing Spring Engine games Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLujhLTK75g yeah that's the first Cossacks, youtube's automated labelling system is (unsurprisingly) total dogshit
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Joe Chill posted:That's sounds fun. It's interesting that RTS games are "meant" to be played aggressively by expanding and attacking first. But you can play them as a not-quite-chill base builder/tower defense game. Stormgate is fine, it's just a lot earlier than you usually do an open beta for a game. There's no tier 3 at all, no third faction, the coop mode only has two subfactions and a single map, no sign of any campaign or 3v3 or custom games (which are also considered pillars according to the devs), etc. Tons of polish stuff is obviously missing. Each new testing version has been a notable step up in quality from the last, and I'd expect this to continue. The engine seems to be pretty solid (other than fps performance): highly responsive, solid pathing, good netcode, so there's a good core there. There are some users saying it's the best for netcode they've ever seen, from South Africa or Australia. Granted, I don't think the art style they chose is doing them any favors among the strategy game crowd. I don't hate it, but it's not exactly inspiring. Cicero fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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Is cossacks 3's single player worth giving a shot? When I was a tiny ninjewtsu I really enjoyed american conquest, and was incredibly befuddled at how the cossacks game I actually owned worked. It'd be fun to revisit the series if the latest game isn't bad
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