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Ruling refers to him as citizen Trump which is now trending, it makes him sound so unimportant. https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1754888689669243097
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OgNar posted:Ruling refers to him as citizen Trump which is now trending, it makes him sound so unimportant. Citizen Deals about to freak the gently caress out on Truth Social probably.
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Angry_Ed posted:Citizen Deals about to freak the gently caress out on Truth Social probably. Oh how right you are 
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Tesseraction posted:Oh how right you are lol, Trump did not write that. Not enough exclamation marks and capital letters.
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All the legal nerds I'm seeing on TV sound overawed by the strength of the DC ruling, like there's more than one now that seems to be saying "I don't even think the SC takes this up now, nobody could add anything useful to this ruling"
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Generally it does take a lot of legal chutzpah to overturn the concept of "the law applies to all citizens of the United States" and only real pieces of work like Thomas and Alito would even think about anything else. Watch this somehow only pass 5-4.
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It's funny that the threat is "Any Democratic president could face prosecution". Well, if they broke the law, fine. We're not cultists on this side fellas.
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https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1754925014762066412?t=fr3-VJl7pjuuwWoFoFBgRg&s=19 Trump’s Former Finance Chief in Negotiations to Plead Guilty to Perjury https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/nyregion/weisselberg-perjury-trump-fraud.html?smid=nytcore-android-share So apparently weisselberg is making a perjury deal with the manhattan DA. The judge in the trump business case requested and immediate notification of what any involved parties know about this on the legal grounds of 'this motherfucker perjured himself in front of my court for your client' So... Good day for trump, as always.
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OgNar posted:Ruling refers to him as citizen Trump which is now trending, it makes him sound so unimportant. i am probably wrong but i dont think scotus picks that one up, a Unanmimous ruling with everything set down and trumps arguments are moonbat bullshit. i think they give a soft win to trump on colorado though.
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I will never not misread that judge's name as Judge Energon.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i am probably wrong but i dont think scotus picks that one up, a Unanmimous ruling with everything set down and trumps arguments are moonbat bullshit. i think they give a soft win to trump on colorado though. I agree on both counts FWIW.
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Caros posted:https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1754925014762066412?t=fr3-VJl7pjuuwWoFoFBgRg&s=19 And, in a sweet little detail, he’s set the deadline for “you bastards tell me what you actually know to avoid sanctions” early enough such that the lawyers will have to file these statements before they’ve seen what facts Weisselburg is admitting by his guilty plea.
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:And, in a sweet little detail, he’s set the deadline for “you bastards tell me what you actually know to avoid sanctions” early enough such that the lawyers will have to file these statements before they’ve seen what facts Weisselburg is admitting by his guilty plea. Oooh that's a good one.
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mdemone posted:I agree on both counts FWIW. yeah. with the colorado thing, they have some cover, "trumps not found guilty yet so you cant do this" type deal. with the immunity poo poo, he has nothing but weird divine right of kings poo poo that only alito and thomas might buy but probably very few else.
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I wonder if all this ads up to Trumps company being given the death sentence?
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:And, in a sweet little detail, he’s set the deadline for “you bastards tell me what you actually know to avoid sanctions” early enough such that the lawyers will have to file these statements before they’ve seen what facts Weisselburg is admitting by his guilty plea. It's even better if you read the beginning of that second paragraph in the voice of Tyrael from Diablo.
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:And, in a sweet little detail, he’s set the deadline for “you bastards tell me what you actually know to avoid sanctions” early enough such that the lawyers will have to file these statements before they’ve seen what facts Weisselburg is admitting by his guilty plea. How does this play out? Is Weisselburg under any obligation or inclination to tell them what he's going to admit? If not, what happens if the civil fraud lawyers reveal more than Weisselburg admitted to? Or more likely, what if they admit to little or nothing that eventually comes out?
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DarkHorse posted:How does this play out? Is Weisselburg under any obligation or inclination to tell them what he's going to admit? If not, what happens if the civil fraud lawyers reveal more than Weisselburg admitted to? Or more likely, what if they admit to little or nothing that eventually comes out? Sounds like a pretty terrible position to be in. Maybe if they tell the truth they'll have less to worry about in the future?
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DarkHorse posted:How does this play out? Is Weisselburg under any obligation or inclination to tell them what he's going to admit? If not, what happens if the civil fraud lawyers reveal more than Weisselburg admitted to? Or more likely, what if they admit to little or nothing that eventually comes out? It's all their asses, in any of those situations. They better hope they can come clean about exactly when and where he perjured himself, and they better hope his allocution matches up with that. Edit: if he has an email thread and supplies it to the DA, they'll give him a sentencing recommendation and then crucify the lawyers.
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I want a bumper sticker that says, “No Kings, No Tyrants, No Trumps” in big bold block letters.
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Murgos posted:I want a bumper sticker that says, “No Kings, No Tyrants, No Trumps” in big bold block letters. Love it. Put it alongside "Both my grandfathers fought the fascists. I'm sure as hell not voting for one."
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zoux posted:I will never not misread that judge's name as Judge Energon. I didn't, but now I do and always will. You've FedEx arrow'd me into thinking about Beast Wars every time now. 
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zoux posted:I will never not misread that judge's name as Judge Energon.
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The Islamic Shock posted:So you are a credit risk because the illegal thing that happened is now something nobody can do to you on account of not being a minor but get hosed anyway, that's amazing Texas is pretty much "gently caress you" on most legal issues that don't involve shooting a fleeing intruder in the back. My father just decided not to pay child support and the courts were just like, "Well, did you ask him to? Yes? Tell him to come to court with you next time and we'll straighten it out." Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, the counterside to this is that I have absurdly good credit because my aunt put me as a secondary name on her credit cards back in the early 80's. So I somehow have her credit history now, so I show as religiously paying down my credit balance every month for decades. Nitrousoxide posted:Yeah, my parents did this for me too when I was young. And later got me to apply for a low credit ceiling card and had me use it for everything and immediately pay it off to generate a good credit history. Having a stable family that cares about you sounds incredible. Like, literally fantasy world poo poo. The Bible fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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Judge Enraged, please dispel
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Judge E.N. Goron, from Hyrule.
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The Bible posted:Texas is pretty much "gently caress you" on most legal issues that don't involve shooting a fleeing intruder in the back. That's just a side effect of Texas' hating women and children in all forms.
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tecnocrat posted:That's just a side effect of Texas' hating women and children in all forms. Solid point.
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Tesseraction posted:Generally it does take a lot of legal chutzpah to overturn the concept of "the law applies to all citizens of the United States" and only real pieces of work like Thomas and Alito would even think about anything else. I don't think even Alito and Thomas want to touch this idiocy. It's impossible to craft a ruling that wouldn't also apply to any Democratic President, and most of the poo poo that Donny is on trial for is things they don't want Democrats doing. Maybe they've got some sort of weird trick lined up to get Trump and only Trump out of this pickle, but they're 100% not going to rule that Presidents can't be punished for any crimes outside a successful Impeachment. Even if we would all love to see the movie version of Dark Brandon two fistedly fixing the nation's problems as our 2 term God King.
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Gyges posted:I don't think even Alito and Thomas want to touch this idiocy. It's impossible to craft a ruling that wouldn't also apply to any Democratic President, and most of the poo poo that Donny is on trial for is things they don't want Democrats doing. Maybe they've got some sort of weird trick lined up to get Trump and only Trump out of this pickle, but they're 100% not going to rule that Presidents can't be punished for any crimes outside a successful Impeachment. I mean they could just pull a Bush V Gore and have the ruling say that the ruling only applies to this case and not to any other.
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Man Texas sucks sooo much I think at this point it would be in US's best interest to just give Texas back to Mexico.
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Kchama posted:I mean they could just pull a Bush V Gore and have the ruling say that the ruling only applies to this case and not to any other. That's been my fear since the outset. Don't want to have to live through that twice, and listening to my MIL down in Ocala freaking out because she voted for Nader. Then again, TRump has vowed vengeance against all who have wronged him (well, everybody) and I'm sure that the folks sitting up on the SC don't want to cede any more power, or serve /stay alive at the pleasure of that maniac.
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Knight007au posted:Man Texas sucks sooo much I think at this point it would be in US's best interest to just give Texas back to Mexico. Mexico has enough poo poo to deal with.
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PainterofCrap posted:
It’s not like Trump understands moderation or anything. They crossed him so they pay.
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Murgos posted:They pretty thoroughly rejected his claims in 2020 and his civil immunity. I’m pretty sure all of them are already deep into his get even list. Yeah, and from Trump's narcissistic perspective it's even worse because he appointed them to the SCOTUS, as far as he's concerned that means they owe him absolute fealty to a degree even other people in his orbit might just be able to wheedle out of. How is cert decided by the SC anyway? I think I heard it needs at least four Justices to agree to hear grant cert, but I don't know if I made that up in my head, if it's convention rather than law, or what. I can easily believe they can only wrangle two or three Justices to want to deal with this though, especially if the expectation is that the SCOTUS would just affirm today's ruling.
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Murgos posted:I want a bumper sticker that says, “No Kings, No Tyrants, No Trumps” in big bold block letters. I've got a friend who might be able to help. Don't remember what their pricing is like. Can make custom bumper stickers/magnets, among other things. Want me to ask?
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