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Mailer posted:The main thing is that there's no replacement for ZL, which is always the case when you need shield immunity. Note also that Layla is probably the best replacement for ZL, with Diona getting an honorable mention for also covering heals. Neither of them actually shield as well as ZL, but if you need a cope shielder in general (I don't have Xiao specifically) they'll typically do.
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Captain France posted:Note also that Layla is probably the best replacement for ZL, with Diona getting an honorable mention for also covering heals. Kirara is technically the second best shielder (ignoring enemy-specific elemental benefits) but it's a steep drop after geodaddy. ZL's 20s duration is already leaving 2-3 seconds at the end of Xiao's burst and that's a wide enough window to get destroyed.
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Space Opera posted:I just don't see spending 1-2 days a week on purples that will be eventually mulched into golds as a waste. But the point of the usual advice is that aside from those outliers, the generic artifacts you get from bosses that you'll be doing anyway to level & ascend your characters are good enough until you can guarantee 5* artifacts, that your resources are better off being spent on leveling characters, leveling their weapons, and leveling their talents first. If you've done all of that as much as you can already, and still feel resin burning a hole in your pocket, by all means spend it on artifacts you're guaranteed to mulch in a handful of levels instead of stockpiling mora and xp sheets. All of this is sweaty optimization minmaxing of the incredibly lovely anti-fun gated resource system which is one of the worst parts of the game anyway. That it's directly tied to another of the worst parts of the game (artifact RNG) is just icing on the cake.
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Been trying out diluc/xianyun/gaming/furina and its a lot of fun, definitely recommend
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How is the lantern rite stuff this year? I’ve been burning out and kind of unhappy with my time spent on the game so haven’t checked it out yet. Something to mash through text again, or a good story? I’ve basically burned out and not playing every year by the time lantern rite arrives so my only point of reference was the very first one, which was tedious af iirc since you basically just did chores for every single person in Liyue.
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rio posted:How is the lantern rite stuff this year? I’ve been burning out and kind of unhappy with my time spent on the game so haven’t checked it out yet. Something to mash through text again, or a good story?  as ever. I think there's a third minigame that isn't unlocked until tomorrow?
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I went on the internet, and I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPgcGK_qNs0
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Get back from epic vacation in Key West. Decide to go ahead and cash some tokens and saved up stock of primos above 40K and within at least 20 pity (not sure yet because history hasn't updated quite yet). Other than feeling like poo poo from too much travel and eating too much life's good right now. I like how they had her give a big speech on the splash art screen, don't think this games done that yet. Her JP voice is very stereotypical anime mom.
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Kale posted:Get back from epic vacation in Key West. Decide to go ahead and cash some tokens and saved up stock of primos above 40K and within at least 20 pity (not sure yet because history hasn't updated quite yet). Other than feeling like poo poo from too much travel and eating too much life's good right now. I like how they had her give a big speech on the splash art screen, don't think this games done that yet. Her JP voice is very stereotypical anime mom.
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:The multiplayer mode is awful to play (collect coins and get bounced losing some! stand on a target point and get bounced losing some! repeat!) but easy to get maxed rewards on, the Guoba puzzle is weird to understand but fun in practice. The quests are as Good to know - thanks. I’ll get to it eventually then and plan on having something to do while mashing text.
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:The multiplayer mode is awful to play (collect coins and get bounced losing some! stand on a target point and get bounced losing some! repeat!) but easy to get maxed rewards on, the Guoba puzzle is weird to understand but fun in practice. The quests are as The correct way to play bumper cars coin collecting mode is not to bump anyone until the very last moment during a zone closure, at which point you become Head Bastard and knock anyone close out of the safe zone.
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I wish one of the bumper car modes was cooperative, and instead of knocking people over and making them lose points, you'd knock into them to boost them into the air to get coins you otherwise couldn't reach. Then you and the player you knocked into would both be awarded those points.
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I just wish they didn't have multiplayer modes where inevitably 1-3 of the other people make the game either fail to start or do bizarre teleporting poo poo once it does start because I'm playing on my desktop against someone on an old phone inside a Faraday cage
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CRs movement skill is really growing on me. Thought it was a bit fidly at first, but it's absolutely not, it's flexible and awesome. You can even dash between charges, covering a huge distance. I'm considering switching my hopeless pulling for C1 Nahida to C1 CR, for the second charge. Also she heals and swirls and makes you glide faster and stuff I guess.
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It's great. You can yeet yourself up cliffs too, to save a lot of climbing time and energy.
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It's legitimately good because a lot of terrain in the game isnt flat so sayu got stuck a lot. And it's also just cool because it feels like theres nuance to exactly when to press E. I think they did a wonderful job with the character in general and loved the SQ ending where she applied powder to herself as a bird. Using Xianyun as the plunger with bennett isnt as bad as it sounds either because she gets the atk buff on herself as well as her own buff. Will put a full maruchessee set on her to see how it benchmarks.
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So out of curiosity I looked up Cloud Retainer's VA expecting to see a long list of credits in the vein of someone like Kotono Mituishi or Kikoku Inoue and instead it's this pretty new VA with like 2 supporting credits and this probably being her biggest role to date. Weird cause I thought it was one of those 50-60 year old been acting in anime since the 80's/early 90's type VA's. For reference to those who don't know VA's or play in English anyway, Kikoku Inoue is the one that does Alice's (definitely not a forgotten character) voice in Japanese. Finally caught her trailer now. Fairly humorous, but definitely not among the more visually creative, especially compared to what HSR has been doing of late. It feels like a Fu Hua trailer with the martial arts showcase honestly. Treasure Hunters still the official jobber enemies along with Abyss mages, but the whole organization literally seems basically built to job to the Liyue cultivator characters in their trailers. Kale fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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Its the same VA as the bird right? I dont think anyone expected a bird to become this popular back in 1.0.
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No Wave posted:It's legitimately good because a lot of terrain in the game isnt flat so sayu got stuck a lot. And it's also just cool because it feels like theres nuance to exactly when to press E. I think they did a wonderful job with the character in general and loved the SQ ending where she applied powder to herself as a bird. That said, you can plunge even a few seconds after landing from a hop, so you have to be careful with that. Kale posted:So out of curiosity I looked up Cloud Retainer's VA expecting to see a long list of credits in the vein of someone like Kotono Mituishi or Kikoku Inoue and instead it's this pretty new VA with like 2 supporting credits and this probably being her biggest role to date. Weird cause I thought it was one of those 50-60 year old been acting in anime since the 80's/early 90's type VA's. For reference to those who don't know VA's or play in English anyway, Kikoku Inoue is the one that does Alice's (definitely not a forgotten character) voice in Japanese. EDIT: Basically the instant they revealed Hot Human Cloud Retainer and Ping they guaranteed we'd be getting them at some point because you don't do that and not follow through. EDIT EDIT: Unless it's Zhongli, then you give him half a dozen badass costumes and give us none of them. Nakar fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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No Wave posted:Its the same VA as the bird right? I dont think anyone expected a bird to become this popular back in 1.0. Yeah I don't think so either, but people clearly loved her whole aloof tsundere character and relationship with and stories about Ganyu and Shenhe. Like there was just enough memeability around the character even as a bird that they kind of figured they had to make her playable and turn her into a hot mommy type human design for it cause let's be honest a Madam Ping type look wasn't gonna cut it for gacha. If Ping ever gets a playable form it'll be her younger look too for sure. Anyway it looks like it was the right choice financially based on first week revenue estimates. Granted she shares a banner with Nahida and one of her best support characters and they're exploiting Lunar New Year to market her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkX9R-0jOpc And yeah same VA as bird form in 1.0, but I think they were using a voice modulator to make her voice sound deeper and more inhuman. Comparison video above.
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Cloud Retainer still has the same VA they just didn't run her lines through the filter they used for her bird form.
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Just finished Wriothesley's Story Quest finally after getting back and while the story for it was okay (basically busting a Milgrim experiment and human trafficking ring in the basement. Also loved the cutscene where he chokes slams the dude to Ashita no Joe like music), the way it was implemented was as bad as anything else in the Fortress zone. It's like that area is everything that everybody usually complains about with this games pacing and dialogue trees kind of distilled. Just LOTS of waiting around, go here, go there, navigate this zone, wait till this time, go find Wriothesley (still a cool customer, much different from what I had expected when his prototype design was leaked), follow him around as he walks super slow looking for clues, chase a guy down and the game bugs out somehow so I have to repeat the whole segment again. Meropide was just brutal man, like it's normally not that bad for me and I'm the guy here poking fun at people having trouble with reading and what not, but for me it's 100% the layout of the fortress itself, and the waiting and running around taking elevators and then retracting my steps and nothing interesting, funny or cool happening during all of that. There's a lot of padding in this game at times, but usually it's better hidden behind either something funny happening, something cool happening, or some sort of lore or character revelation. Also it had a lot more typos and just some of that weird machine translated feeling dialogue than usual. Unfortunately given the nature of the character as the warden, Wriothesley's whole quest is stuck in Meropide and subject to the same mechanics as Acts 3 & 4. Meropide's part of the Archon quest could have easily been just one act and it wouldn't have changed anything most likely. Just combine the part where Neuv sends you there to spy on things and cut that whole part where you're going between the production zone working, the cafeteria eating, and just all the poo poo that didn't loving matter to one cycle and then have it go to the part where he takes you and Clorinde to the secret area with the sluice gate holding back the primordial water. Done, plenty of material to fill out an act and leave room to explore something else with the other act in 4.1. We'll see if Neuvillete's is a little better in a while, not doing his quite yet. I should have to come back to Meropide one more time to collect some missing treasure in the one area with the gear doors when the time finally comes to figure out how that puzzle works and clean out the treasure in Fontaine with the help of a video guide, but that's not gonna be for another month or two I imagine. Still a little bit of 4.1 content and all of 4.2 including the much hyped Masquerade of the Guilty Archon Quest to get through, which should prove a big contrast to Act 3&4.
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Also exploring the Fontaine Research Institute area now and those Fatui House of The Hearth operatives are tanky as gently caress. All the female elite enemies in this game feel tanky as gently caress well beyond not only what you would expect, but just in general compared to other enemies to be honest. I think the only real exception are those axe wielding eremite ones and the cicin mages.
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They have decent HP, but their resistance to CC is almost nonexistent. They can be knocked down, pulled, juggled, and interrupted really easily. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence that they first appeared in 4.1 and that was the Venti rerun patch.
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Yucky, my options for Lantern Rite are a C1 Beidou, C3 XQ, and a C6 Gaming.
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Leraika posted:xq and gaming are both great choices Gaming/XQ/CR is probably going to be my next team and in the short term a C6 Gaming seems more useful than a C3 XQ but in the long run, more constellations on XQ is always better because he fits into any team that needs hydro. At least I've got a Yelan too though. I have a C6 Noelle now too, is she alright with Navia? I'm running Ning with her right now at C2/Dragon Slayer so she's buffing Navia pretty alright Tampa Bae fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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Navia and Noelle are not a great match, as they're both on-field geo. You could potentially use Navia to try and battery Noelle, and use the fact that Noelle doesn't lose her infusion to quickswap between them, but the energy requirements would be tough to meet.
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On the other hand, you could have noelle wandering around with a huge glowing sword while artillery falls around her. Like, once every ten minutes unless you find someone to feed them juice.
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Fav Noelle can self-battery assuming youre running her with Furina and Marechausse for 100% Crit chance is it going to be the best team? no is it going to be fancy ladies beating baddies up with large swords, gunbrellas and wet rocks? yes!
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Beidou doesn't really "pop" until she hits C2. I think all 3 of those are good choices. I'd choose Gaming if you like him, or Xingqiu, since he's used in an absolute boatload of teams and his constellations are great.
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I don't have Xinyan or Yun Jin, is it worth grabbing either if I have no plans to run them anytime soon? I've got C4 Xiangling so I think I'm going to wait til I'm done pulling on the banner and either try to finish off Gaming since I want to try him out, or put it into Xingqiu since I'm running him now and he's only C0. Yaoyao is C5, everyone else including Beidou is C0.
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Unless you decide to start using them, go with which ever you think you'll use. As always, go for what you like. If not, get either the Xiangling or Xingqiu con.
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Yunjin can be good but is niche, though she doesn't have her main utility locked behind high Cons. Xinyan definitely should be skipped unless you really like her or are aiming for completion.
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Speaking of characters I really like who aren't exactly the best, the combination of running around Chenyu Vale with her, not having anything better to pick for Lantern Rite than her C6, and noticing that her ascension stat is pyro damage percent has got me deciding to bump Yanfei up from 70/70 to 80/90, and I just want to say that I appreciate how much closer to teleporters they put bosses now. Holy poo poo it took me so long to actually find the Primo Geovishap again, and Cloud Retainer drowned in the process. Also Yanfei is fun, she has range and shouts lawyer things and the shield is convenient and her plunge is good if you have Cloud Retainer. It probably also helps that a single 10-pull on the weapon banner for, I wanna say it was a bow for Fischl, got me Nuevilette's weapon. I do not have the Hydro Dragon, but with Furina on the team his book is pretty much best in slot for Yanfei, too. Xinyan is also very cool, but she caps out at either one of the best physical carries in the game (all of them suck), a pretty good support for a physical carry who can be a combination of battery, burst-sub dps, and shielder (but she can't do all of them well at once, and all physical carries suck), or a Bennett Circle Impact Pyro carry that did better than Dehya in a video I saw once, but also Bennett Circle Impact Pyro carry, and Xiangling, Hu Tao, Lyney, Diluc, and Yanfei all exist and don't need to play so much circle impact, and come to think of it, any Bennett Circle Impact Pyro carry also has the issue that Bennett can do that job pretty well himself. So, like. In terms of "choosing someone useful," yeah. Probably skip her. (In terms of "picking someone cool, though, "she shouts "shred 'til I'm dead" while she strums her guitar to create a shockwave and a burst of fire, that she claims in the description isn't actually from her Vision, that just happens because she's so cool.) Captain France fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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Yanfei has an incredibly smooth animation for her attacks which makes me wonder why characters like Ningguang and Klee feel so much clunkier by comparison.
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Hyper Inferno posted:Yanfei has an incredibly smooth animation for her attacks which makes me wonder why characters like Ningguang and Klee feel so much clunkier by comparison.
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