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gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

mawarannahr posted:

lol
https://twitter.com/EmilyZFeng/status/1754181324326490268
awful npr china hawk

https://twitter.com/willshawison/status/1753998273239462245?t=2ZBA2Mhfg21rsQ6SutH_Jw&s=19

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 14:27

Rubellavator: Aug 16, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/willshawison/status/1753998273239462245?t=2ZBA2Mhfg21rsQ6SutH_Jw&s=19

great idea will s.

# ? Feb 5, 2024 00:05

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1754268330414776587

# ? Feb 5, 2024 06:58

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1754268330414776587

is this going to be like the thing where when a surgeon kills people the hospitals just quietly shuffle him around from one to another without ever telling anyone

# ? Feb 5, 2024 07:27

Maya Fey: Jan 22, 2017

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1754268330414776587

apparently this did not prevent bari weiss from having him on her podcast to whine about the ��identitarian left�� or whatever his deal is

# ? Feb 5, 2024 12:40

Clark Nova: Jul 18, 2004

if you google "yascha mounk rape allegations" on the first page of results you get the malang post, a tweet, a forum called "political science rumors" and a site that has an ip address instead of a domain name. google news has zero relevant results. journalists really do take care of their own

# ? Feb 5, 2024 16:23

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1754268330414776587

Very clear the Atlantic only released that statement (on a back channel) because the victim tweeted this earlier that day in response to their radio silence:

https://twitter.com/Celestemarcus3/status/1754121601677733965

# ? Feb 5, 2024 18:15

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Maya Fey posted:

apparently this did not prevent bari weiss from having him on her podcast to whine about the « identitarian left » or whatever his deal is

still cant get over the fact that her name is literally barry white

# ? Feb 5, 2024 18:54

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

DynamicSloth posted:

Very clear the Atlantic only released that statement (on a back channel) because the victim tweeted this earlier that day in response to their radio silence:

https://twitter.com/Celestemarcus3/status/1754121601677733965

Is Jeff Goldberg the atlantic guy who when off to Israel to torture prisoners at an IDF concentration camp or am I confusing him with another atlantic guy?

# ? Feb 5, 2024 18:57

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

She's not a nobody either, she's a contributor to a lot of the same journals and periodicals and goes to galas with the Atlantic crowd.

She's a contributor on the cover of the New Statesman, for example.

e: I have no idea what ideology she's expressing here, not that it matters to what happened to her, just that you'd think they'd circle the wagons to protect her as well.

The global left is the only force that has the power to stay Israel�s hand:
It�s tragic that Jews had to see their transition from powerlessness to power come at the price of another people�s degradation.

Celeste Marcus posted:

A person lives in many realms. One�s sexual identity is not the same as one�s ideological identity, though they may inform one another. We are multiple, but not fully intersectional, beings. I am a young liberal Zionist in the diaspora and so have had occasion, over the past bloody months, to see just how complicated my multiple identity is. This was made manifest during a period in which I was both deeply rattled and also called upon to act, to take part in the inflamed public conversation, to demonstrate the humanity which is the single tool powerful enough to staunch the bloodletting that has plagued the Palestinian and Jewish peoples since the early 1900s.

Zionists must learn that their children will never be safe so long as Palestinian children are not safe. Palestinians must learn the same. The horrors of 7 October were succeeded by the horrors in Gaza and I needed to keep my head, to monitor my own pain and to direct it with prudence. Hysteria and despair were not responsible indulgences. (I have rationed both.) Now was not a particularly good time to discover that the left has a Jewish problem.

Strictly speaking I did not discover this on 7 October. I come from the Zionist far right and spent my childhood marinating in a doctrine which preaches the dehumanisation of Palestinians. When I fled that world for the liberal community, I recognised immediately that progressive leftists feel about Israelis the way radical Zionists feel about Palestinians: these are not real people. So the grotesque anti-Semitism manifested brazenly by far too many leftist leaders did not surprise me. It did, however, shock me. And it angered me.

Cheering the beheading, rape and murder of innocent people is shocking even when it is not entirely surprising. And of those who did not cheer the terror, the great majority were either too slow or totally incapable of renouncing it. That too is shocking.

Something did surprise me, though. I was surprised by my own fear of the left�s hatred and bloodlust. I expected to be angry, not afraid. My fear has two primary concerns: I fear for my own and my family�s safety, and I fear for the possibility of peace in the Middle East. The left, I see now, is among the collectives which imperil both.

Its refusal to consider Israelis as human beings has made it an obstacle to the establishment of a Palestinian state. This is not mere rhetoric: this is an acute, rational horror. If the left�s attitude to Israel starts and stops with the insistence that it ceases to exist � a bizarre formulation indeed: the war crimes of no other state are met with cries for its elimination � anyone who works towards peace is lambasted as a traitor.

Pressure from the global left is one of the only forces that has the power to stay Israel�s hand. It has the capacity to assist Palestinians� whose sole recourse is to engage with a state, the worst excesses of which systematically dehumanise them. The Jewish people have learned over 2,000 years that our safety is dependent on the existence of a Jewish state. It has been one of the great tragedies of the modern period that Jews had to watch their transition from powerlessness to �power come at the price of another people�s degradation.

The awful reality is that every government commits egregious crimes and yet their power renders them necessary partners in the establishment of a more just society. American leftists have remarked that they will never forgive themselves for the tax dollars they paid which financed the destruction in Gaza. They are right to be sickened by their role in this horror. But as they keep correctly hectoring, context matters. That other countries commit war crimes does not make Israel�s less ugly. But we must ask why the extermination of only Israel is repeatedly called for by people on marches the world over who have never been there. Young American leftists protested against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, but they never demanded that the US had lost its right to exist because of them.

To influence Israel, one must be willing to recognise it. Since leftist leaders cannot bother to do this, they cannot be of real use to Palestinians. This is a betrayal of their own cause. It is also tragic for the liberal Zionists, whose integrity depends on forcing Israel towards justice. The only allies we have in that effort are those heroic Palestinians who agitate for peace. I have been moved to tears several times in the past weeks to see expressions of Palestinian love and support for Israeli neighbours who are grieving. This magnanimous humanity is our only balm, our only hope. But leftists abroad accuse such Palestinians of being complicit in their own oppression. Of what use is a cruel and dogmatic left in a cruel and dogmatic world?

Someone who uses "Zionists", "Israelis" and "the Jewish people" interchangeably is obviously a team player, so the Atlantic loving her over like this seems shortsighted.

ee: It seems like the Atlantic is covering for the rape of someone who is actually pretty plugged in. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

About posted:

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The Foundation seeks to inform today�s cultural and political leaders, influence citizen engagement, inspire participation in the democratic process, and promote the humanities.

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They published Robert Kagan's War and the Liberal Hegemony, for example.

Idk, it's just interesting to see a close knit intellectual and political bloc cover for some guy rather than do the smart thing and throw him under the bus as soon as they heard.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 19:17 on Feb 5, 2024

# ? Feb 5, 2024 18:57

atelier morgan: Mar 11, 2003; super-scientific, ultra-gay; Lipstick Apathy

they'll always protect the abuser over the abused, they've learned never to let metoo happen again

if that means a few lanyards are sacrificed alongside the masses so be it, the right of the powerful to freely exploit and ruin cannot be abridged

# ? Feb 5, 2024 19:28

Best Friends: Nov 4, 2011

their core ideology is that the strong get to do what they will to the weak.

# ? Feb 5, 2024 20:02

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

But just from a workplace morale perspective, having someone like that on staff is a bit of a black cloud over the cocktail parties and book launches, no?

# ? Feb 5, 2024 20:33

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

But just from a workplace morale perspective, having someone like that on staff is a bit of a black cloud over the cocktail parties and book launches, no?

The majority of people at a cocktail party like that already know about and protect sexual abusers anyway. Wouldn't move the needle at all.

# ? Feb 5, 2024 20:38

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

No, you�re right I�m just thinking I worked with a guy who had assaulted, or tried to assault, a female candidate while they were on course together. He was considered a bit of a Jonah.

This was before there were enough women in the Artillery for them to have their own floor of the barracks. So what the army did was - it made the local newspapers and everything and it caused a bit of a scandal when he was arrested and all that stuff - but after graduating she was posted to the other side of the country, so I guess because she couldn�t be present for the trial or whatever, charges were dropped and they didn�t go ahead with a court marshal either.

But still, he was a Jonah. You know, the reputation stuck. He was considered bad luck. No one wanted to have him on their gun crew, and so when the next tour came up, he was left behind in Canada.

# ? Feb 5, 2024 20:44

joepinetree: Apr 5, 2012

For like a decade every major hollywood event would have a joke about Weinstein and rape.

I don't know Mounk personally. But from people who've been around him, it doesn't surprise me.

# ? Feb 5, 2024 20:45

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

Frosted Flake posted:

But just from a workplace morale perspective, having someone like that on staff is a bit of a black cloud over the cocktail parties and book launches, no?

Yeah the people who upset everyone by making distasteful allegations are bad for morale, you gotta get rid of them so everyone can enjoy the parties

# ? Feb 6, 2024 04:19

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1754854176964608282

yaKKKubin at it again

# ? Feb 6, 2024 14:42

hadji murad: Apr 18, 2006

mounk says the right bullshit so they will protect him

# ? Feb 6, 2024 14:52

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

WaPo and a couple of other outlets are covering the Mounk story and are my first results when I search his name.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/02/05/atlantic-yascha-mounk/

# ? Feb 8, 2024 06:06

Shageletic: Jul 25, 2007

Toplowtech posted:

The New York Times' opinion columnists but as parasitic animals... I mean we have Brett "Bed Bug" Stephens already.

Had to refresh my memory about this and it's funnier than I remember

quote:

On Twitter Monday afternoon, a George Washington University professor compared conservative New York Times columnist Bret Stephens to a bedbug after a Times editor had posted that bedbugs were spotted in its newsroom.

David Karpf's tweet, which read, "The bedbugs are a metaphor. The bedbugs are Bret Stephens," initially gained little traction. But Stephens took notice, and escalated his complaint about the tweet to Karpf's boss at the university.

"This afternoon, I tweeted a brief joke about a well-known NYT op-Ed columnist," Karpf wrote Monday night. "It got 9 likes and 0 retweets. I did not @ him. He does not follow me. He just emailed me, cc�ing my university provost. He is deeply offended that I called him a metaphorical bedbug."

The exchange went viral soon after, when Karpf posted Stephens' full email on Twitter.

"I'm often amazed about the things supposedly decent people are prepared to say about other people � people they�ve never met � on Twitter. I think you�ve set a new standard,� Stephens wrote. "I would welcome the opportunity for you to come to my home, meet my wife and kids, talk to us for a few minutes, and then call me a 'bedbug' to my face. That would take some genuine courage and intellectual integrity on your part. I promise to be courteous no matter what you have to say."

"Maybe it will make you feel better about yourself," Stephens continued. "Please consider this a standing invitation. You are more than welcome to bring your significant other."

By Tuesday morning, with the ordeal becoming one of the highest trending subjects on Twitter, Stephens opted to delete his Twitter account.

# ? Feb 8, 2024 14:16

Shageletic: Jul 25, 2007

bedpan posted:

Is Jeff Goldberg the atlantic guy who when off to Israel to torture prisoners at an IDF concentration camp or am I confusing him with another atlantic guy?

It's the first one. Kinda blew my mind as a kid that this guy was seen as a level headed commentator then eventual editor and he's also a war criminal

# ? Feb 8, 2024 14:26

hadji murad: Apr 18, 2006

not the only war criminal they have on staff either

# ? Feb 8, 2024 14:41

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Shageletic posted:

It's the first one. Kinda blew my mind as a kid that this guy was seen as a level headed commentator then eventual editor and he's also a war criminal

Look up the original faculty of the University of Alberta Ukrainian Studies program..

# ? Feb 8, 2024 14:52

God Hole: Mar 2, 2016

Shageletic posted:

Had to refresh my memory about this and it's funnier than I remember

I think he even tried to claim it was racist by referencing some obscure journal but the link he posted still had the google query terms he used to find it in the URL like "bedbug jew slur' or something lol

# ? Feb 8, 2024 15:07

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

God Hole posted:

I think he even tried to claim it was racist by referencing some obscure journal but the link he posted still had the google query terms he used to find it in the URL like "bedbug jew slur' or something lol

yeah he very obviously punched in "bedbug + jew" into Google Scholar and hopped onto the first link he could find

# ? Feb 8, 2024 15:11

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Iirc the link referred to an actual literal outbreak of bedbugs in a Jewish ghetto

# ? Feb 8, 2024 15:25

damn horror queefs: Oct 14, 2005; say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator

Important news from the Guardian:

quote:

Do I really look like Ukraine’s top general? I have a much nicer forehead

By Adrian Chiles

Valerii Zaluzhnyi and I both have deeply furrowed brows. Should one or both of us be thinking about Botox?

Chilies' annual salary is estimated to be around £160,000 per year, btw

# ? Feb 8, 2024 17:08

cat botherer: Jan 6, 2022; I am interested in most phases of data processing.

drat horror queefs posted:

Chilies' annual salary is estimated to be around £160,000 per year, btw

and he's worth every penny

# ? Feb 8, 2024 17:17

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

drat horror queefs posted:

Important news from the Guardian:

Chilies' annual salary is estimated to be around �160,000 per year, btw

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# ? Feb 8, 2024 17:36

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

cat botherer posted:

and he's worth every penny

# ? Feb 8, 2024 17:36

damn horror queefs: Oct 14, 2005; say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator

God's perfect idiot

# ? Feb 8, 2024 19:29

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

cat botherer posted:

and he's worth every penny

# ? Feb 8, 2024 19:39

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

drat horror queefs posted:

God's perfect idiot

# ? Feb 8, 2024 19:48

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

lol

quote:

After university, while waiting for his broken leg to heal from an amateur football incident, he applied for and failed both Civil Service exams, before being asked to apply for MI5 � he failed the second interview.[4] He studied journalism at Cardiff and then worked as a sports reporter for the News of the World.[5]

# ? Feb 8, 2024 19:52

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Why would you tell anyone you washed out?

Also, at least here, you sign papers at the start of the process that say you're not allowed to discuss any part of it.

# ? Feb 8, 2024 19:59

gimme the GOD DAMN candy: Jul 1, 2007

failing out of that interview is a badge of honor

# ? Feb 8, 2024 20:14

hadji murad: Apr 18, 2006

mawarannahr posted:

What happened when a colleague made me a cup of tea? I almost died of shame

What I learned from a freezing night in A&E with my dad

They're horribly flashy and cost a fortune to run - I'd hate to own a superyacht

I was struggling with an underperforming poinsettia. Then I discovered how to make it shine

It took me 30 years to learn to love lapsang souchong - but now it's all gone horribly wrong

What's the secret of packing light for a holiday? Ask my mum

It's never OK to look at your phone in church - unless you're checking the score

I know just what I want for Christmas - but I'm not sure it's legal

I loved my new glasses - until everyone told me what they thought of them

How can you tell if someone's really an atheist? Watch them at a penalty shootout

Vets, you deserve my apologies

Where will you spend Christmas? With your parents? Your in-laws? Your children? Why is it so complicated?

What have I learned after three years of dog ownership? Beware of the vet bills

I am through with hugs and kisses. Handshakes are the only answer

I loved the Marina Abramovic show - but the most shocking moment came in the giftshop

The left lane on a motorway is for the virtuous and the good. That's why I love it

How did I spend Halloween? With an incredible group of nuns

Why are young people all growing mullets? I've been inspired by a much better hairstyle

How on earth are you supposed to review a parking space?