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I know most people in here probably wouldn’t bother with this, and I normally wouldn’t either if I wasn’t doing a themed build. I have a gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax motherboard and my case has some be quiet! Light wings argb fans in it. Could I ask what the least lovely option to control their lights is? Should I just use whatever gigabyte software?
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Cheap Shot posted:I know most people in here probably wouldn’t bother with this, and I normally wouldn’t either if I wasn’t doing a themed build. I have a gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax motherboard and my case has some be quiet! Light wings argb fans in it. Could I ask what the least lovely option to control their lights is? Should I just use whatever gigabyte software? OpenRGB if you're lucky enough for it to support your specific hardware, or SignalRGB if you can live with the nagware aspect of it (you don't need to pay to use it, they just really want you to buy paid themes or whatever). The various motherboard vendors' solutions range from incompetent to tire fire.
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DoombatINC posted:It looks like it uses a proprietary fan that turns itself off under low PWM signal (the cooler is advertised as "semi-passive" for this reason) so it might just be a quirk of that specific design. Normally I'd recommend just replacing the fan with something a little innately quieter if the cooler is still doing its job, but it also looks like the proprietary fan has its attaching clips built straight into the frame which kinda complicates that suggestion Welp, I bought this and fitted it this morning. Still no control. I tried to download the Asus AI Suite or whatever, but it only works on Win7. At least it works I guess. 
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power crystals posted:OpenRGB if you're lucky enough for it to support your specific hardware, or SignalRGB if you can live with the nagware aspect of it (you don't need to pay to use it, they just really want you to buy paid themes or whatever). The various motherboard vendors' solutions range from incompetent to tire fire. Darn. OpenRGB seems to have very limited support for my hardware. I’ll give SingalRGB a shot and decide of it’s too naggy or not. Thank you to you and Super No Vacancy for the suggestions. Edit: drat all of this rgb software sucks and none of it lets me do what I want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have bothered. Cheap Shot fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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I just love when case manufacturers include their own proprietary controller. Specifically, I love the sound it makes as it falls into the e-waste bin.
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Cheap Shot posted:Darn. OpenRGB seems to have very limited support for my hardware. I’ll give SingalRGB a shot and decide of it’s too naggy or not. Thank you to you and Super No Vacancy for the suggestions. Yeah that's the typical reaction to trying to do anything with RGB (unless you do all corsair as mentioned, then it at least doesn't do what you want much more easily). What effect are you trying to achieve?
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I bought a 3080 TI off a goon for $425, which was too excellent of a deal to pass up (otherwise probably would have gone 4070 super) and I've got it installed and running and everything seems to be going fine. However, my previous GPUs were a 5700 XT and 6700 XT, which are just not in the same tier. This 3080 TI is running at 76 Celsius (which I understand is fine) and drawing like 375 - 399 watts while I'm gaming. I can hear the fans (not loud, but audible) and I can smell that faint aroma of hot electronic components. None of these were the case with my previous GPUs, so I just want to do a sanity check to see if that all seems okay.
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Racing Stripe posted:I bought a 3080 TI off a goon for $425, which was too excellent of a deal to pass up (otherwise probably would have gone 4070 super) and I've got it installed and running and everything seems to be going fine. Most 3080 Ti models have a 400W power limit by default. They also tend not to have coolers as massively overbuilt as the 4090 coolers. They're pretty much bound to run on the warm side with some audible fan noise as a result. 76C and audible but not loud fans seems pretty good to me, all things considered. If you want it to be even cooler/quieter, then you can consider undervolting. My 3080 Ti took pretty well to that, and I could usually shave off at least 70W from its power consumption without losing any performance. Here's a basic video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqpfYTi43TE Standard disclaimer when messing with voltages and frequencies: it is very much possible to break things if you're not careful. Undervolting is generally considered safe, maybe even safer than running the GPU stock due to using lower voltages, but it can lead to some instability when gaming, and it can take some time to dial it in right. Your PC seems like it's working fine right now, so you really don't have to worry about any of this at all if you don't want to.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Most 3080 Ti models have a 400W power limit by default. They also tend not to have coolers as massively overbuilt as the 4090 coolers. They're pretty much bound to run on the warm side with some audible fan noise as a result. 76C and audible but not loud fans seems pretty good to me, all things considered. If you want it to be even cooler/quieter, then you can consider undervolting. My 3080 Ti took pretty well to that, and I could usually shave off at least 70W from its power consumption without losing any performance. Here's a basic video guide: Awesome, thank you. I've got some sort of irrational fear of my rig bursting into flame, so I think I'm just being overly cautious. If the fan noise starts getting on my nerves, I'll consider trying an undervolt.
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power crystals posted:Yeah that's the typical reaction to trying to do anything with RGB (unless you do all corsair as mentioned, then it at least doesn't do what you want much more easily). What effect are you trying to achieve? I’m doing a portal themed build. No crazy over the top lighting. I just wanted the rings of the fans to animate and look more like the rim of the portals in game. I’ve tried three software options now and anything animated either forces rainbow, usually to every fan, or has most of the ring unlit while an animation moves around it. Pretty much all of them also don’t account for the number of LEDs so the animations dont loop around properly. I also tried out RGB fusion and I’m starting to worry that installing gigabyte command center hosed over my new pc. Seems haunted now.  They’re just static lit atm. It doesn’t have that cool rotation effect of the lighting on the fan blades irl sadly. It’s just because of the camera speed. I was thinking like, fading between two different shades of orange / blue or having two different shades of orange / blue circling around. I dunno, I’d love to play around but there’s nothing to play with. Kinda wild how much rgb control sucks in tyool 2024 when everyone stuffs as much lightening in their cases as will fit.
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Cheap Shot posted:I’m doing a portal themed build. No crazy over the top lighting. I just wanted the rings of the fans to animate and look more like the rim of the portals in game. I’ve tried three software options now and anything animated either forces rainbow, usually to every fan, or has most of the ring unlit while an animation moves around it. Pretty much all of them also don’t account for the number of LEDs so the animations dont loop around properly. I also tried out RGB fusion and I’m starting to worry that installing gigabyte command center hosed over my new pc. Seems haunted now. I can control every led. Like icue has presets, but you can make your own, layer them with yours, and tell individual leds on the same fan to do totally different things. NZXT and lian li probably have their own similar control but I haven’t bothered to try theirs out.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-is-currently-available-for-only-353 How does a 7700XT stack up at $350? I don't understand what a good price target for those parts is or when they are worth buying vs discount 6800s. It does seem like value might be back in the $300-400 range.
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Twerk from Home posted:https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-is-currently-available-for-only-353 That's actually a great deal, especially since the supply of ~$300 6700 XTs seems to have dried up
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Cheap Shot posted:I’m doing a portal themed build. No crazy over the top lighting. I just wanted the rings of the fans to animate and look more like the rim of the portals in game. I’ve tried three software options now and anything animated either forces rainbow, usually to every fan, or has most of the ring unlit while an animation moves around it. Pretty much all of them also don’t account for the number of LEDs so the animations dont loop around properly. I also tried out RGB fusion and I’m starting to worry that installing gigabyte command center hosed over my new pc. Seems haunted now. SignalRGB should let you do this. You'd need to pick one of the spiral effects and then in the layout center the fans since it's supposed to lay out the LEDs in the "box" the same way they are physically. How well this works varies a bit in practice (and I just set mine to slow fade rather than trying to cycle anything because I didn't want to spend a thousand years getting the timing/layout correct) but this is pretty much the exact thing that software was made to do. It's just super unintuitive because that way they can lead you towards their paid themes. But basically the idea is the "layout" is a 2D plane that has a color gradient on it that's calculated by the theme/effect/whatever word they use, and then you coordinate your devices by arranging them on that plane so you can put one fan in each corner or whatever.
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power crystals posted:SignalRGB should let you do this. You'd need to pick one of the spiral effects and then in the layout center the fans since it's supposed to lay out the LEDs in the "box" the same way they are physically. How well this works varies a bit in practice (and I just set mine to slow fade rather than trying to cycle anything because I didn't want to spend a thousand years getting the timing/layout correct) but this is pretty much the exact thing that software was made to do. It's just super unintuitive because that way they can lead you towards their paid themes. But basically the idea is the "layout" is a 2D plane that has a color gradient on it that's calculated by the theme/effect/whatever word they use, and then you coordinate your devices by arranging them on that plane so you can put one fan in each corner or whatever. I did give signalrgb a shot but I struggled to figure it out. Maybe it’s just my perma exhausted brain missing the obvious, or maybe my board and fans lacked full compatibility, but it seemed really unintuitive. The whole program was a confusing visual overload. I could go back in and try again.
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Cheap Shot posted:I did give signalrgb a shot but I struggled to figure it out. Maybe it’s just my perma exhausted brain missing the obvious, or maybe my board and fans lacked full compatibility, but it seemed really unintuitive. The whole program was a confusing visual overload. I could go back in and try again. You just described all RGB software
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Twerk from Home posted:https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-is-currently-available-for-only-353 According to TechPowerUp's reviews, it is around 15 - 20% faster than the 4060 Ti at pure rasterization, and it averages out to be the same speed as the 4060 Ti when enabling Ray Tracing. Though this means in many light RT implementations, it's the same speed or a bit faster still, and in heavy RT titles like Cyberpunk, it's much slower. In the only recent forced RT title, Avatar, the 4060 Ti and 7700 XT are tied. I'm of the opinion that RDNA3 cards need to offer a clear value advantage over their equivalent Nvidia cards before anyone should buy them due to the lack of DLSS support, worse power efficiency, and shakier RT support. The 4060 Ti is selling for around $380 these days, with one recent dip to $344, so the 7700 XT's standard price of $450 seems pretty bad. I wouldn't pay a penny over $400 for one, while $350 is a pretty okay deal.
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Cheap Shot posted:I did give signalrgb a shot but I struggled to figure it out. Maybe it’s just my perma exhausted brain missing the obvious, or maybe my board and fans lacked full compatibility, but it seemed really unintuitive. The whole program was a confusing visual overload. I could go back in and try again. I mean if you're happy the way it is and found that program confusing than keep what you've got. It's definitely confusing as hell and it took me a few hours to figure out what I was doing.
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I realize that I'm coming up on 10 years with this build and I think it's time for a new one. I'd like to thank EVGA for their 10-year warranty PSU, but I don't know if I need to push it's limits. What country are you in? -USA Do you live near Microcenter? -Definitely not What are you using the system for? Web, office, gaming. What's your budget? It's looking like $1200ish is reasonable? It's not firm. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? 1440p/144hz max, never really taken advantage of it Existing build is 4790k, GTX 970, 16gb DDR3. It looks like the following would be a modern version of it: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB ELITE 59.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Amazon) (I already have this) Motherboard: ASRock Z690 PG Velocita ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($97.47 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Dell Technologies) Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($529.99 @ B&H) Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ B&H) (I already have this) Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Best Buy) Total: $1482.40 Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-09 00:15 EST-0500 A few disclaimers/notes: -I already have the CPU cooler, admittedly an older version of it that I can buy an $8 adapter kit for the LGA1700, so if I go AM5 I have to get a new cooler. -It seems to make sense to get the newest i5, although a lot of mobos complain about 14th gen, but it's just loading a bios flash onto a thumb drive on setup, right? -Motherboards are making my head spin a bit, but this one has nicer audio, wifi, fast PCI-E, M2 and ethernet. It's not a huge chunk of cash to get one with the bells and whistles, right? and a Z690 board makes sense for an unlocked processor? -Why does the mobo say "* Dedicated LGA1700 mounting bracket is required."? Do I buy that separately? Let me know if I'm doing anything stupid or whatever. It's probably overkill but if it lasts me another 10 years of medium gaming, that's good for me.
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Deceptor101 posted:A few disclaimers/notes: The CPU cooler is what it's referring to for the Dedicated LGA17000 mounting bracket so it's that $8 kit. That board has a BIOS Flashback option so if the board doesn't have 17.03 or higher BIOS on it you can flash it to the latest BIOS and it should work. I agree about the boards. I've been eyeing upgrading recently and have been looking at all sorts of boards. That board seems okay. The one review I saw complained about "last gen audio codec" on it, but if it works it works.
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This 13700F is $10 cheaper than the 14600K and it will be a decent bit faster at pretty much everything, too: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/intel-...8&skuId=6530248 I've been a proponent of the non-K i7 CPUs for a few years now. They tend to have the same core configuration as the K models with just a small decrease in clock speed. You can't overclock them, but you can still change the power limit behavior. In the 12th gen parts, using really high-speed memory could be hit-or-miss due to the inability to increase the IMC voltages, but I think that's gotten a lot better with 13th-gen parts due to the better IMC.
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It's also worth noting that in the 10 years since then (wassup fellow 10 year upgrade cycle person, long live the i5-4570, still in use in my backup computer!), AMD's processors have improved dramatically to the point where if gaming performance and power consumption are the most important things to you, a 7800x3d is now hands down the best processor you can buy. Nothing wrong with that Intel, and there are workloads where it is better, but it will use more power and be beaten on most gaming tasks. The value proposition is slightly worse for you since you cannot get a Microcenter bundle, but it's still worth looking into if you don't have other reasons not to.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:This 13700F is $10 cheaper than the 14600K and it will be a decent bit faster at pretty much everything, too: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/intel-...8&skuId=6530248 14th gen locked parts also have unlocked voltage control for the IMC, literally just because someone asked an Intel engineer on Reddit if that was possible, so you have no issue running high speed memory on them.
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HalloKitty posted:Yeah, there's no real argument for Intel right now. Maybe decent value on the low end? But midrange and high end builds with gaming focus are for sure served best by AMD The E cores are killer for highly parallel code compilation and I am begging Intel to sell me an all E core chip with 32+ E cores and 0 P. Once 14700 pricing comes down a smidge it's going to be in a fine spot, 8+12 for hopefully less money than AMD charges for 12 big cores.
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Racing Stripe posted:MicroCenter just emailed me pushing a $250 bundle that includes a 12600K, 16 gigs ram, and a motherboard. That’s some pretty good value for a budget gaming build. Yeah I saw this too and you could probably make a pretty solid $600 budget gaming PC with this.
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Twerk from Home posted:The E cores are killer for highly parallel code compilation and I am begging Intel to sell me an all E core chip with 32+ E cores and 0 P.
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The cooler should be good. If you're moving to an LGA1700 socket you can get a free mounting kit from Noctua: https://noctua.at/en/intel-lga1700-mounting-kit-order-form You just have to supply the invoices for the cooler and your LGA1700 series CPU or motherboard.
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