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I also don't think the people arguing against Hester want a whole bunch of other QBs going in. There wasn't a finalist among QBs.
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Gates should be first ballot Hamlin didn't do poo poo but profit off modern science congrats on not dying give the award to the doctor Joe Flacco led the Browns to the playoff that right there is award worthy even if he wasn't a 40 year old dad who hadn't thrown a pass in who knows how long he's a loving inspiration for that unironically put long snappers in the hall Devin Hester played a football position better than anyone else played that position not sure why his position should be excluded from a football hall of fame
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Marklar posted:Honest question - is it the PED thing?
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Gates should have gotten in, that's drat near criminal. That said gently caress yeah hof Andre Johnson.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Hester is the dude you drop from this class for Gates. I don't have a problem with putting an elite returner in or anything, but you can't argue that he was nearly as valuable as the others. Kawalimus posted:I bet Hester got in because they were so sick of the debate about whether he should get in that this is the only way to stop it it's the hall of fame not the hall of valuable metrics. people talked way more about Hester than Willis or Johnson, and still do, plus he has way more well-known highlights
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kiimo posted:Gates should be first ballot I actually went and gathered all of the returner stats I could and compiled them when the finalist list first came out. Hester is so far ahead of everyone else on a per return basis that he'll never be caught and he's near the top of the total return pile as well. He'd have a lot more punt return yardage, too, but he scored because the field was short. He absolutely deserves to be in Canton. The bears didn't win, but they would not have been in the superbowl his rookie season if it wasn't for him. e: if you've got ten minutes, watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGRssBo9Bsw Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Feb 9, 2024 |
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I laughed that NFL Throwback uploaded a video a few days ago about it and Dungy gave an interview saying he told the team to kick it directly to Hester to send a message they weren't afraid of him. good job
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Mystic Stylez posted:I laughed that NFL Throwback uploaded a video a few days ago about it and Dungy gave an interview saying he told the team to kick it directly to Hester to send a message they weren't afraid of him. good job I love that a number of his returns were Chris Kluwe deliberately trying to kick away from him and he runs from one side of the field to the other to get it, and still houses it.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I actually went and gathered all of the returner stats I could and compiled them when the finalist list first came out. Hester is so far ahead of everyone else on a per return basis that he'll never be caught and he's near the top of the total return pile as well. He'd have a lot more punt return yardage, too, but he scored because the field was short. And that's not counting all the times teams opted to kick out of bounds and yield the penalty yardage rather than risk kicking to him. There's never been another special teams player who struck that much fear into the opposition.
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Can't remember where I first saw it, but lmao that "what's more impressive: beating Death, or taking the Browns to the playoffs" is now a real football debate. Pontius Pilate posted:Gates not getting in the hall is the clear most outrageous thing that happened tonight. And if we had the benefit of the hindsight of the playoffs, Campbell not winning CotY, though we’re getting into territory where you eventually have to throw one at shanahan even if it’s not his best season, like Scorsese and the departed Campbell rules but what DeMeco did was much harder IMO. Basically took the Lions trajectory from last season and this season and compressed it into one season. People expected the Lions to make some noise this year but not the Texans. That said if the Lions make the Super Bowl this year then Campbell gets it 
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C-Euro posted:Can't remember where I first saw it, but lmao that "what's more impressive: beating Death, or taking the Browns to the playoffs" is now a real football debate. The voting took place before the playoffs.
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Mystic Stylez posted:I laughed that NFL Throwback uploaded a video a few days ago about it and Dungy gave an interview saying he told the team to kick it directly to Hester to send a message they weren't afraid of him. good job When keeping it real goes wrong. lol
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BlindSite posted:Hamlin hosed up twice on special teams, one play lost them the game for sure, the other one probably contributed a big chunk, otherwise he played like 18 other snaps and did nothing of note. He deserved a few votes but not the win. Hamlin wouldn't even have been on the Bills roster in September if they weren't worried about bad press. Guy sucks.
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The person who has an argument over Flacco is Baker, not Hamlin
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He's like a depth safety and he loving died and still returned to football! You guys are dicks!
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fsif posted:He's like a depth safety and he loving died and still returned to football! You guys are dicks! That was the universe's way of telling him to hang 'em up.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Hester is the dude you drop from this class for Gates. I don't have a problem with putting an elite returner in or anything, but you can't argue that he was nearly as valuable as the others. Wrong. Should have been Willis who couldn't even play for 10 years
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the real joke is Mike Macdonald not winning assistant coach of the year
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I won't say that the league rigged the vote or anything, but I'm sure they'd love everybody to forget that they nearly had a guy die on national TV last year. Of course, now everyone's talking about it again  really queer Christmas posted:The voting took place before the playoffs. Ah! Well, nevertheless
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Never thought I'd see a dude melt down over the Comeback Player of the Year award but here we are. Hester deserves to be in the Hall and so does Gates, dude got robbed.
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fsif posted:He's like a depth safety and he loving died and still returned to football! You guys are dicks! Rising up the depth chart from six feet deep
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Alex Smith was CBPoTY while being rear end but he won it because his leg basically fell off. What you’re coming back from is just as big of a deal as whether you play well (it’s a narrative award anyway) and the turn TFF took on Hamlin is real weird
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Freaquency posted:Alex Smith was CBPoTY while being rear end but he won it because his leg basically fell off. What you’re coming back from is just as big of a deal as whether you play well (it’s a narrative award anyway) and the turn TFF took on Hamlin is real weird Alex Smith was at least relevant on the football field. The only notable thing Hamlin ever did was die on it.
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Freaquency posted:Alex Smith was CBPoTY while being rear end but he won it because his leg basically fell off. What you’re coming back from is just as big of a deal as whether you play well (it’s a narrative award anyway) and the turn TFF took on Hamlin is real weird Alex Smith 17 goddamn surgeries and battled through unspeakable physical therapy sessions for god knows how much time and managed to fight back hard enough to not only keep his leg but then play QB again, the hardest most important position in sports all Hamlin did is not die once. I like Hamlin and I'm glad he didn't die but he literally did nothing personally, that's all.
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That radically easy thing to do, recovering from cardiac arrest
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Marklar posted:Honest question - is it the PED thing? Worse, he was a Charger! (he should absolutely be in)
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Marklar posted:Honest question - is it the PED thing? Didn't matter for Peppers
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kidcoelacanth posted:baker should have won it over flacco and hamlin Baker will use it as fuel for next year, think positive. I don't like the Bucs at all but Baker owns.
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kidcoelacanth posted:baker should have won it over flacco and hamlin I would not have hated that, honestly if any of the three won it I would have been fine.
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Freaquency posted:That radically easy thing to do, recovering from cardiac arrest I do hear you but how do you personally recover from cardiac arrest. It's not like beating cancer, he closed his eyes and then later on opened them after the miracle of modern science brought him back from what was sure to be a tragic, untimely death I'm not trying to be insensitive by saying give the award to the paramedics. Also I'm arguing for no reason I don't care about this award for any reason at all. It just logically doesn't make sense to give it to him.
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Freaquency posted:That radically easy thing to do, recovering from cardiac arrest Yeah, even though I don’t really think he should win the award, the “he did nothing but sit back, take it easy, and enjoy the benefits of modern medicine” line like he had a cold or something is an insane take.
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Pron on VHS posted:Everyone deserves an award of some sort. Or no one deserves an award. I'm not sure what way people are leaning ATM
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King Hong Kong posted:Yeah, even though I don’t really think he should win the award, the “he did nothing but sit back, take it easy, and enjoy the benefits of modern medicine” line like he had a cold or something is an insane take. This is basically my point, yeah. You can think he didn’t deserve to win without trivializing what he went through.
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