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First day of fishing you want to get into a fight with the biggest fish you can find
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punch them in the gills to assert superiority
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Feb 3, 2024 19:51
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Lake CHIMlers 
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Feb 3, 2024 22:15
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I can't help but notice that this fight is reminding me a lot of Pacific Rim. The fish strongly resembles Knifehead, and Salami Dave just detonated the nuke at the bottom of the ocean.
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Feb 4, 2024 06:01
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Thyrork posted:Being nonbinary immunizes the mind against zero-summing by the way. You already perceived the wholeness of gender and went "Nah im good" or "Ill take it all.", thus you are already past the crisis point. Vivec would agree with this, seeing as they are a divine androgyny. wiegieman posted:No one has ever ceased to exist because they became convinced they weren't real. There's a few ways of looking at how this kind of revelation messes with you. With Lovecraft for example, glimpses beyond reality drive people insane with a Horrible Truth or some kind of situation that literally cannot fit inside their minds. In TES things are running on belief, strengthening or weakening belief can alter reality going forward, it can even rewrite already written history. One of the Thalmor's many goals was removing Talos from the pantheon by forbidding his worship. Stomping it out would have actually done this, and would have possibly had a retroactive effect on the whole setting seeing as Talos is also Tiber Septim. Anyway it's entirely possible to have an existential crisis in TES so hard that it threatens your actual existence. Believing you aren't real is enough to make that true. As for what it might look like, I agree with other posters who've described it as being retconned out. Videogames are pretty handy as a reference for poo poo like this because it's a nice tiny pocket reality we can view, imagine deleting a prop in GMod. Jadis' family and retainers disappeared a lot like the Dwarves in TES, both groups constructed terrible machines to glimpse beyond or take up the mantle of God and disappeared. I think we can pretty safely assume that seeing the wheel gave them the bad kind of ego death and they ceased to be. The Jury is out on the Dwarves, Kirkbride said they ended up as the skin of the Numidium (the big God robot) which sucks for them but is... extra canonical.. It's worth mentioning in both cases though, that despite exiting reality somehow people remember both the Dwarves and Jadis' folk. Oh and this is only kind of related but in Discworld you have a fun inversion in the Auditors of Reality, beings that are supposed to not exist or have a sense of self. Which is very difficult to do (you might have noticed) and disappear completely whenever one absent mindedly do simple individual things like use any pronoun to refer to themselves. Shoehead fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 4, 2024 |
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Feb 4, 2024 11:41
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wiegieman posted:No one has ever ceased to exist because they became convinced they weren't real. That's also just called the same thing.
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Feb 4, 2024 19:45
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:No one has ever assumed a multi-armed warform by melding with angels and demons, either. Not with that attitude
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Feb 4, 2024 20:40
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:No one has ever assumed a multi-armed warform by melding with angels and demons, either. Lol, tell me you don't have a warform without actually telling me you don't have a warform. Just lmao.
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Feb 5, 2024 05:12
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wiegieman posted:No one has ever ceased to exist because they became convinced they weren't real. I don't think you grasp the depths of your statement. You don't know anybody's ever ceased to exist before, because you wouldn't know they ever existed.
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Feb 5, 2024 05:18
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W.T. Fits posted:Oh yeah, this is going to be incredible. and it will keep cutting between the two, with ever increasing stakes Finally they will resolve, and everyone will get back together and Princess and Vigilant Gaze will be all "What? No, we just talked to them, they were onboard from the start. What do you mean you had to perform on stage/land the largest wall hanger ever?"
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Feb 5, 2024 06:17
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I don't think you grasp the depths of your statement. You don't know anybody's ever ceased to exist before, because you wouldn't know they ever existed. Well, not with that attitude
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Feb 5, 2024 10:20
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Bilirubin posted:and it will keep cutting between the two, with ever increasing stakes “The fish was a mighty foe.” “Uh huh.” “Truly, it was this big.” “Sure it was.”
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Feb 5, 2024 10:54
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Look the three of them should just have a drinking contest as is proper.
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Feb 5, 2024 11:06
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Fish are always drinking though, drinking is how they breathe.
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Feb 5, 2024 16:02
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Bussamove posted:“The fish was a mighty foe.” WC and Vigi are in the background making fishing emotes at each other while everyone else is war planning.
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Feb 5, 2024 17:54
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Ain't no rule that says a fish can't play basketball!
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Feb 5, 2024 20:54
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Just recruit that fish as a replacement for Jagganoth already.
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Feb 8, 2024 11:53
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It's gonna turn out the fish is the master of that style she's trying to learn from Dave.
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Feb 9, 2024 00:33
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Azubah posted:It's gonna turn out the fish is the master of that style she's trying to learn from Dave. Koi Rata
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Feb 9, 2024 03:56
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Ditocoaf posted:Koi Rata
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Feb 9, 2024 04:06
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Shoehead posted:In TES things are running on belief, strengthening or weakening belief can alter reality going forward, it can even rewrite already written history. One of the Thalmor's many goals was removing Talos from the pantheon by forbidding his worship. Stomping it out would have actually done this, and would have possibly had a retroactive effect on the whole setting seeing as Talos is also Tiber Septim. I want to point out that this is a pervasive bit of fanon in regards to TES lore, although I'll probably expand upon things/provide sources later when I'm not about to pass out. In summary, this view of the setting stems from assuming the "What appears to be an Altmeri commentary on Talos" post by Michael Kirkbride is the Thalmor's operating ideology, but there is nothing that definitively links what could simply be the ramblings of a very cranky Altmer racist with very fringe views (ESO shows that the Altmeri religion isn't all doom and gloam and nihilism) to what the Thalmor want. Also, the concept that you can eradicate a god by eradicating its worship (or that belief shapes everything) isn't something that's a proven quantity in the setting metaphysics of TES; that Altmer could be severely misinformed and/or optimistic as to what killing off Talos and mankind could do in regards to unmaking reality.
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Feb 9, 2024 11:42
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Of all the fantasy settings TES is one of the few where gods don't seem to actually need worship to exist, yeah. Talos is a self-created entity, and how it actually came into existence and what it actually IS is such an obscure cluster of nonsense I don't imagine most people in the setting actually know it's like. Three guys? The Aedra are dead and the Daedra literally checked out of creation before it was finalized, none of them need you to believe in them. Even according to "What appears to be..." the goal isn't to get rid of Talos so that he disappears from worship-starvation, but to get people to stop doing Lorkhan-related bullshit because the elves, oh they hate that Lorkhan related bullshit they're so tired of Shezzarite nonsense keeping them trapped in time. They want to go back to before Akatosh hosed things up by making time coherent and mortal and they want to be in the pre-mundus time when everything was constantly changing spirits. Lorkhan (enantiomorph with Akatosh (also is Akatosh)) created mortality and the trap of this world as a way to inspire spirits to reach CHIM/Amaranth to perpetuate the reproductive cycle of realities and the regressive Thalmor and the mer in general tend to want to just hang out in a timeless maybe instead of getting on with things. Of course Skyrim's kinda too baby to get into like, the interesting implications of this. They even have this giant Heart of Magus thing in the mages questline and they never tell you what it even is DOING but the implication might be he's trying to unravel mundus which like, fair, we have like 1 Tower left at this point I think, easy, but like, you don't even know what the villain you're stopping is DOING because Bethesda is afraid of interesting writing? Getting rid of Talos worship wouldn't rewrite time, Akatosh keeps way too tight ledgers. Breaking the Dragon also seems so far to only affect the "current" time, I can't think of an example when it was used to rewrite the past (excluding all the, you know, retcons Bethesda keeps doing to make the lore significantly less interesting (they could have made the big bad guy of Skyrim be Alduin, you know, literally Akatosh, you know, literally the dragon that shows up and saves you in Oblivion, but complexity is hard so instead he's just kinda Some Guy who ruled a dragon empire that never existed in the lore before and he's really just Akatosh's mean son and you gotta beat him up because he's evil and wants to end the kalpa because he's mean and evil) because Todd Howard and Emil Pagliarulo are kinda hacks and bad for fantasy as a genre). quote:Don't forget that gods can be shaped by the mythopoeic forces of the mantlers-- so Tosh Raka could be an Akaviri avatar of Akatosh with a grudge against his mirror-brother in Cyrodiil. Yeah here there's a difference between mantling a god and altering its narrative by doing that and worshiping a god. When you walk like something so it walks like you that's different from just large-scale belief about a thing. Also crying that Skyrim could have given us a really weird and interesting story and instead it's just evil mean dragon raaaaar FlocksOfMice fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Feb 9, 2024 |
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Feb 9, 2024 17:56
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FlocksOfMice posted:Of all the fantasy settings TES is one of the few where gods don't seem to actually need worship to exist, yeah. This is what makes the dwemer so scary, by the way. They're atheists in a universe where the gods factually exist as much as you or me. When confronted with the fact that reality is a dream, they didn't ask "how do we achieve this enlightened state?" They asked "how do we wake the big guy up?"
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Feb 9, 2024 18:33
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Youremother posted:This is what makes the dwemer so scary, by the way. They're atheists in a universe where the gods factually exist as much as you or me. When confronted with the fact that reality is a dream, they didn't ask "how do we achieve this enlightened state?" They asked "how do we wake the big guy up?" And now they're nobody's problem.
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Feb 9, 2024 18:35
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Youremother posted:This is what makes the dwemer so scary, by the way. They're atheists in a universe where the gods factually exist as much as you or me. When confronted with the fact that reality is a dream, they didn't ask "how do we achieve this enlightened state?" They asked "how do we wake the big guy up?" I feel like it was more "how do we force the big guy to become us?" MikeJF posted:And now they're nobody's problem. Unless you're in the 5th era, then watch out!
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Feb 9, 2024 18:46
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MikeJF posted:And now they're nobody's problem. This is extremely dependent on if you like c0da or not, and what you define as "nobody's problem." The altmer are definitely nobodies after the dwemer erased them from history, yeah
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Feb 9, 2024 18:53
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Youremother posted:This is extremely dependent on if you like c0da or not, and what you define as "nobody's problem." The altmer are definitely nobodies after the dwemer erased them from history, yeah Wait did the Dwemer like, screw up the universe such that to everyone they whammied they dissapeared, but to them everyone else did?
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Feb 9, 2024 19:03
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thechosenone posted:Wait did the Dwemer like, screw up the universe such that to everyone they whammied they dissapeared, but to them everyone else did? No, they hosed up building a giant God Robot to unmake reality and then thousands and thousands of years later show back up (as the God robot) and delete most of Nirn from history. This is all c0da lore so take it with a grain of salt.
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Feb 9, 2024 19:18
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MikeJF posted:And now they're nobody's problem. I’ll admit I’m not following this discussion too closely, but I seem to remember being eviserated and steam-boiled by quite a few shiny golden robbits in my Skyrim hours.
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Feb 9, 2024 19:25
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Youremother posted:This is what makes the dwemer so scary, by the way. They're atheists in a universe where the gods factually exist as much as you or me. When confronted with the fact that reality is a dream, they didn't ask "how do we achieve this enlightened state?" They asked "how do we wake the big guy up?"
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https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1756039933607784700
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Feb 9, 2024 20:48
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Little dancing Gog when
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Feb 9, 2024 20:51
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I love Gog-Agog so much
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Feb 9, 2024 20:57
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I heard that gum Allison likes is going to come back in style.
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Feb 9, 2024 20:58
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Alt-text: if you look hard enough you can actually find this set earlier in the comic. I think he's talking about the backstage crew there. Anyone have any idea where that was?
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Feb 9, 2024 21:14
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I assumed by "set" he meant the stage set: this particular arrangement of couch, chair, statue, etc. I'm guessing some TV show in the background, and Gog is mimicking some existing talk show host (or is that talk show host)
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Feb 9, 2024 21:40
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Oh, yeah, I don't know why I didn't connect set to the, uh set. And BTW the framed picture is a clear reference to Eric Andre, for anyone who's unaware, which makes me very excited for what's coming.
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Feb 9, 2024 21:43
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I think that's the desk Incubus inserted into Allison's mind when he was playing secretary for her.
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Feb 9, 2024 21:44
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Joe Slowboat posted:I think that's the desk Incubus inserted into Allison's mind when he was playing secretary for her. Yep, was just about to post that, I went back and looked and they're really close. I think that's it.
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Someone on the Discord found it: https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-7-63/ 
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