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Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be


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Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




I'm surprised so many people are ok with spending $20 to wait an hour for a lukewarm burrito.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Its just another class signifier, youre the guy ordering the food or the guy delivering it

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
I ride my bike to the pizza place to pick up my pizzas and very awkwardly ride my bike back.

Somehow this pizza place still exists with indoor dining and everything despite not having any parking out front.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Mauser posted:

I ride my bike to the pizza place to pick up my pizzas and very awkwardly ride my bike back.

Somehow this pizza place still exists with indoor dining and everything despite not having any parking out front.

This is common outside of the suburbs

Maed
Aug 23, 2006


Professor Beetus posted:

I will say the nice thing about the gig bullshit is that if I ever feel tempted to get fast food, that temptation usually goes away pretty quickly when I see like 20 god drat cars in the drive thru

i tried to get fries and a mcflurry at 12:30am on a Friday and there were so many gig bullshit orders that i waited 25 minutes at the counter before giving up. the manager couldn't even cancel my order she said i had to call a phone number that only answers on weekdays 9-5. never getting mcdonalds again even as a high af nighttime snack place

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
the markup is insane too. like suddenly your McDonald's meal is $50 and that's cool? who are these freaks.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

I can understand ordering from a local place that doesn't have delivery otherwise for dinner or whatever but lmao at Doordashing McDonalds

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

yeah getting fast food delivered is insane lol

mystes
May 31, 2006

How is getting fast food delivered different than getting any other food delivered?

I guess getting food delivered from something that's really close is dumber and people are more likely to be close to a mcdonalds compared to something else though

Edit:
that is truly insane though
vvvv

mystes has issued a correction as of 19:05 on Feb 10, 2024

Karach
May 23, 2003

no war but class war
A while back I went to the local big chain movie theater and watched several gig food delivery guys pick up orders from the concession counter. They were taking orders of movie popcorn, nachos, and fried chicken sandwiches for delivery. I asked the employee there about it and he said they had dozens of orders every day for popcorn and poo poo.

:psyduck: paying a markup on your marked up movie popcorn because you can't be bothered to throw on and sweatpants and leave the house

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

mystes posted:

How is getting fast food delivered different than getting any other food delivered?

I guess getting food delivered from something that's really close is dumber and people are more likely to be close to a mcdonalds compared to something else though

fast food is designed to be eaten immediately and turns to rear end like 5 minutes after it comes out and gets slightly cold, I ain't eating that cold rear end big mac

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

the value proposition of fast food is that its cheap, adding on doordash fees, delivery charges, tip etc totally destroys that. i just looked at doordash for a nearby fast food restaurant, its like 9 or 10 extra dollars to have it delivered vs just going there yourself. i can see paying for the convenience for actual decent food but a fuckin burger from whataburger????

also fast food is only good when its hot, the instant it cools down it becomes inedible. which happens when its delivered.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



The closest McDonalds to me, in the most transit-accessible part of the city, constantly has a half-dozen e-bikes chained outside waiting for orders. I suppose people just don't feel like walking 5-10 minutes after 10pm in the winter or something.

I think some of the other places nearby have free or very cheap delivery though.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Cold pizza is great. But that's overnight on the fridge.

I get my upscale burgers by driving 3km each way on my drat bike, and as soon as the good pizza chain opens, I'll do the same for that, because I live out in the far suburbs where good food is not available. It's fine, but also there's usually app delivery people there more than actual customers. They're mostly on scooters or ebikes here though.
My neighbours get in their cars, which is the same time but probably a bit hotter food if we're being honest

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

did a quick check and getting just a 20 piece mcnuggets delivered comes to $20 with a small tip added

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
I wonder if theres a reason none of these places ever did delivery before gig economy bullshit.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
I order fast food sometimes, the only difference from what I would do before (go pick it up and bring it home) is the price.

mystes
May 31, 2006

leftist heap posted:

I wonder if theres a reason none of these places ever did delivery before gig economy bullshit.
The vast majority of restaurants didn't do delivery before "gig economy" bullshit because to directly hire delivery people and not lose money you need to ensure that they'll have constant work the whole time they're working which is hard unless you're a pizza place or chinese restaurant that primarily does takeout or something.


Fast food is going to be more expensive if you get it delivered and taste worse compared to eating it immediately (that's also true if you pick it up yourself and take it home) but most of these complaints also apply to getting anything else delivered.

It seems to me like the main reason to not get fast food delivered isn't that there are special reasons why fast food would be particularly dumb to get delivered so much as if you're using something like uber eats either way, you probably have more alternatives available to you without requiring you to spend more time getting the food.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Rauros posted:

the bare minimum should be people at the front at the red light take the responsibility to pay rapt attention for the signal change.

The bare minimum should be no cars. I don't give a gently caress what people do while their cars are stopped otherwise. At least they can't hurt anyone else while they're not moving.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

mystes posted:

The vast majority of restaurants didn't do delivery before "gig economy" bullshit because to directly hire delivery people and not lose money you need to ensure that they'll have constant work the whole time they're working which is hard unless you're a pizza place or chinese restaurant that primarily does takeout or something.

In the UK here, the nearest chinese/chippy and the burger/kebab shop are next door to each other, and I'm pretty sure they share a delivery driver. The driver might even cover 3 shops, if the weird hotdog-and-pancakes-selling newsagent on the corner is open.

I feel like the culture around it is very different here to in the US, though. Most Chinese or Indian places have always had their own drivers, either hired on, or somebody in the family who spends the rest of the time behind the counter.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

the markup is insane too. like suddenly your McDonald's meal is $50 and that's cool? who are these freaks.

I know people who do it and it's straight up an addiction. It releases dopamine to order food to your door or something. They've tried deleting the app multiple times and can't stop themselves from going back to it. I'm sure some people are just lazy and/or lovely but there's a definite addictive personality element to it and not having to go outside.

I don't understand what they get out of it, the food can't ever be hot and it frequently doesn't even arrive at all and they waste all their money on it and it would be cheaper to just drive out and get it. But logic and reason aren't that relevant when you're dealing with addiction. It's like gambling maybe. Just another way tech is ruining everything.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Cup Runneth Over posted:

I know people who do it and it's straight up an addiction. It releases dopamine to order food to your door or something. They've tried deleting the app multiple times and can't stop themselves from going back to it. I'm sure some people are just lazy and/or lovely but there's a definite addictive personality element to it and not having to go outside.

I don't understand what they get out of it, the food can't ever be hot and it frequently doesn't even arrive at all and they waste all their money on it and it would be cheaper to just drive out and get it. But logic and reason aren't that relevant when you're dealing with addiction. It's like gambling maybe. Just another way tech is ruining everything.

The app will offer deals like spend $25, save $5 or get a free $5 french fry. They then jack up the "fees" so that you end up paying the same or more, but get the illusion of getting a deal. Very smart!

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

it is convenient if you are at work, watching kids, or drunk (do not go drunk driving to get food)

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9CJSfUiBB0

The Maroon Hawk
May 10, 2008

during the first COVID lockdowns the McDonalds near me (<15min walk) closed their dining area and refused to change their policy of not serving pedestrians/cyclists in the drive-thru. if I wanted some McDonalds my only option was delivery, which would cost me like twice as much and take longer than it would take to walk there, get my food, walk back, and eat it at home, all because I had the audacity to not have a car

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Apr 16, 2017

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The Maroon Hawk posted:

during the first COVID lockdowns the McDonalds near me (<15min walk) closed their dining area and refused to change their policy of not serving pedestrians/cyclists in the drive-thru. if I wanted some McDonalds my only option was delivery, which would cost me like twice as much and take longer than it would take to walk there, get my food, walk back, and eat it at home, all because I had the audacity to not have a car

Have you tried not eating McDonald's?

The Maroon Hawk
May 10, 2008

have u tried deez nuts

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

The Maroon Hawk posted:

during the first COVID lockdowns the McDonalds near me (<15min walk) closed their dining area and refused to change their policy of not serving pedestrians/cyclists in the drive-thru. if I wanted some McDonalds my only option was delivery, which would cost me like twice as much and take longer than it would take to walk there, get my food, walk back, and eat it at home, all because I had the audacity to not have a car

when the cure is worse than the disease

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The main problem with getting your food delivered is that the added value to you is nowhere near as great as the value of the delivery guy's time, which means that they're getting underpaid (a lot) and you're getting overcharged. Also some techbros are ripping off you and the restaurants.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Cup Runneth Over posted:

I know people who do it and it's straight up an addiction. It releases dopamine to order food to your door or something. They've tried deleting the app multiple times and can't stop themselves from going back to it. I'm sure some people are just lazy and/or lovely but there's a definite addictive personality element to it and not having to go outside.

I don't understand what they get out of it, the food can't ever be hot and it frequently doesn't even arrive at all and they waste all their money on it and it would be cheaper to just drive out and get it. But logic and reason aren't that relevant when you're dealing with addiction. It's like gambling maybe. Just another way tech is ruining everything.
Are you talking about ordering food in general now and not just fast food? I don't personally have food delivered pretty much ever but saying that having food delivered is an addiction like gambling is just a really weird take. Usually people do it because they're busy and/or tired and don't want to spend a lot of time driving, as getting food from a restaurant would usually involve in most places in the US.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

BonHair posted:

The main problem with getting your food delivered is that the added value to you is nowhere near as great as the value of the delivery guy's time, which means that they're getting underpaid (a lot) and you're getting overcharged. Also some techbros are ripping off you and the restaurants.

There's a time and place for it. A pizza or sandwich restaurant in a dense area can manage it for a small delivery radius with minimal fees. If the delivery person is hitting a bunch of people quickly, it can be worth it for everyone involved.

But yeah when an app schedules a driver for 2-3 deliveries an hour 15 miles apart, that's just not sustainable without ridiculous prices. On the other hand these apps also throw out escalating discounts if you ignore them for a while to the point it's not more expensive than picking up off the restaurant's original menu prices. Might as well get a bit of VC money from their marketing budget when it's offered.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://v.redd.it/fz5ooc0e6mfc1/DASH_1080.mp4

mystes
May 31, 2006

holy gently caress that's annoying

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

best case scenario is it's a work vehicle in the construction zone that's escorting some more dangerous trucks. cops still do enforce traffic laws when they are personally annoyed.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
The lights should be yellow and higher up if that is the case.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

cops still do enforce traffic laws when they are personally annoyed.

Counterpoint: those lights are white.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

today I saw a guy double park on a fairly busy road and turn on his hazards and get out, leaving the door open, to talk to some people he seemed to know walking on the sidewalk

it was an f-150

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose
I'm ok with that as long as it makes driving a worse experience for everyone else.

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Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


mystes posted:

Are you talking about ordering food in general now and not just fast food? I don't personally have food delivered pretty much ever but saying that having food delivered is an addiction like gambling is just a really weird take. Usually people do it because they're busy and/or tired and don't want to spend a lot of time driving, as getting food from a restaurant would usually involve in most places in the US.

RCP bitch. I said I was giving an anecdote about my friends who are literally addicted to it in their own words and cannot stop themselves from reinstalling the app and ordering more food when they're depressed or whatever even though they know it's a waste of time and money

they even uninstalled one app and ended up installing, setting up, and ordering from a different one while reasoning it wasn't the same thing lol. it's exactly like gambling addictions to them

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