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AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
but I've heard random acquaintances use it recently and it was the American Dialect Society or somethings word of the year so maybe it's precisely cringe enough

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Salt Fish posted:

What is any other word in the format en____fication? Its got the same energy as whilst and m'lady.

Enucleation?

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

credburn posted:

I don't know if it's all CostCos, but -- I haven't been in one in a decade, but I got a membership recently -- what happened to the BULK? That's the entire point of CostCo. The person who sold me the membership was talking about how they're only like 20% bulk now, as if that's a good thing? Wandering around CostCo now, it's just like being in a huge department store with the same limited selection but now in normal portions and containers, and the entire place reeks of hotdogs. Why did I get a fuckin membership? This place sucks.

credburn posted:

It's in Eugene, Oregon, if you want to check it out.

I'll just be weird today. I checked it out on same day delivery and it looks like an average Costco. Perhaps your experience in bulk is more like a restaurant supply store with white box goods in quantities to feed giant family.

Yesterday I went to a Business center Costco which reminded me of a lot of things that used to be available at my local warehouse and aren't. Stuff like drum liners, portion cups, basically restaurant stuff. They also had a lot of normal items in bigger containers than the regular Costco like kimchi, guacamole, flour, sugar, mayo.

On the other hand, there's no items at Costco that are the same size as my grocery store. Everything is a minimum 6 pack at Costco vs 2 at Kroger. Soda is 24-36 packs, no 12s. It's all bulk and they still sell flour and rice in 25lb bags, and big jugs of oil for friers etc.

I think it's a lot more consumer focused than it was 20 years ago but not much more than it was 10 years ago. My other experience is stopping by ones further from the business center that do still carry that stuff because it sells. It seems that in Denver they can discontinue it at most warehouses and funnel the small businesses over to the BC.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

You don’t need the en-

It’s an old prefix

RDM
Apr 6, 2009

I LOVE FINLAND AND ESPECIALLY FINLAND'S MILITARY ALLIANCES, GOOGLE FINLAND WORLD WAR 2 FOR MORE INFORMATION SLAVA UKRANI
Every single one of my suburban relatives has a ring because of migrants coming to crime them. Getting pickpocketed by some giant multinational constantly raising the monthly charge for their doorbell is actually pretty funny.

The downside is that the best way to keep people onboard with the increases is fear. Some AI precrime warning tool is gonna create neighborhood crime warnings every time the ring network spots someone who fails the paper bag test.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
got a banner advert on a webpage for “shocking video of Hamas raping women released by NYT”.

What was I googling? whether or not if putting food due in whipping cream will affect it

I need a stronger word than enshittification.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

GABA ghoul posted:

Google posted the highest revenue & profits in its history last quarter. And massive growth. Stock was at an all time high. Lots of the tech giants did similarly well.

They took a huge gambit with the enshitification and it really worked out for them so I think the lesson here is that enshitification=profit and they learned this lesson very well now.

:thermidor:

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

AARD VARKMAN posted:

but I've heard random acquaintances use it recently and it was the American Dialect Society or somethings word of the year so maybe it's precisely cringe enough

It's spread is kind of limited because it can't be said on TV

teen witch posted:

got a banner advert on a webpage for “shocking video of Hamas raping women released by NYT”.

What was I googling? whether or not if putting food due in whipping cream will affect it

I need a stronger word than enshittification.

Propaganda.

Actually on the subject, it's wild straight up combat footage is being put on regular TV as a commercial, maybe even on braodcast TV, so it's playing multiple times an hour and this is not controversial. Hypernormalization, to add to the internet neologisms.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

skooma512 posted:

Propaganda.

Actually on the subject, it's wild straight up combat footage is being put on regular TV as a commercial, maybe even on braodcast TV, so it's playing multiple times an hour and this is not controversial. Hypernormalization, to add to the internet neologisms.
But it seems so terribly ineffective at best and downright offensive at worst. I’m looking to ensure I can make spooky rear end looking semlor without loving up, and like, in no way shape or form am I going to be “sure I’m looking up coloring whipping cream, but hold that thought, let me go check out this bit about sexual assault that this banner is stating”. What person doing that?? It’s like advertising rotten.com while you’re looking up sewing patterns like, how many loving people are clicking on that??

Furthermore, I get why Google Ads is allowing this because number must go up but this seems like a real bad loving path to go down. I remember seeing ads for Ukrainian charities sure but not footage from Bucha. The idea of banners advertisements going from Bonzai Buddy to rape is just something my mind lacks the capacity to comprehend. It isn’t a PSA, or outreach to an organization…it’s just something horrific I lack the words to really define.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Nothing that is in service to Number can be bad.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

My city is switching bus fares over to primarily be done through a mobile app instead of oldschool bus passes, where you buy the bus pass in the app and then wave your phone in front of a scanner on the bus. Because of this most places have stopped selling bus passes and pretty much the only place to get them anymore is by going to a lightrail station and buying them from the kiosk there (the train uses the same passes as the bus).

Except like half of the buses don't have the mobile fare scanner installed yet so if you only have the phone pass, you can't board.

So to ride the bus every day I have to ride the bus to a train station every once in a while just to pick up a bunch of passes. And if I ever run out of bus passes I have to walk 3 miles to the train station just to get more!!

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

deep dish peat moss posted:

My city is switching bus fares over to primarily be done through a mobile app instead of oldschool bus passes, where you buy the bus pass in the app and then wave your phone in front of a scanner on the bus. Because of this most places have stopped selling bus passes and pretty much the only place to get them anymore is by going to a lightrail station and buying them from the kiosk there (the train uses the same passes as the bus).

Except like half of the buses don't have the mobile fare scanner installed yet so if you only have the phone pass, you can't board.

So to ride the bus every day I have to ride the bus to a train station every once in a while just to pick up a bunch of passes. And if I ever run out of bus passes I have to walk 3 miles to the train station just to get more!!

How dare you complain! You aren't a person if you don't have access to and use a car.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
another thing ive noticed getting shittier is now a lot of restaurants (more casual / fast food type places) dont even have their menu online per se... they make you essentially begin a delivery order instead and thats the only way to browse the menu

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Is there a word for when enshitification is actually kind of cool, like the Bad Miracles from Nope?

My Roku TV has a promo wallpaper for the new season of Halo and it’s a destroyed future city. My TV feels like a pov WH40K battlefield! :evilbuddy:

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Bobstar posted:

I was going to post something similar to this but then forgot... but shopping sites' metadata/properties generally. Amazon is obviously bottom of the barrel - I've seen screwdriver sets listed as like €45.00 (€13.69/100g), as if I buy my screwdrivers at the pick'n'mix.

But even "specialist" shops are often pretty terrible. No "diameter" categories in the saw blade section. Or choose "blue" and get a bunch of stuff that isn't blue, but excludes a load of blue things that are listed as something else. Just loads of disparate things thrown into a data bucket with no human thought about how to categorise them.

And breadcrumbs (I think that's what they're called?) - like Home > Power Tools > Accessories > Saw Blades > Circular Saw Blades. That works if you start on the home page, but if you end up on a specific item page after a Google KagiTM search, and you think "what other circular saw blades do they have", there are no breadcrumbs.

Yes I'm mad about online shopping today.

I worked for an agency that built bespoke e-commerce sites back when “contracting an agency to build you a bespoke e-commerce site” was still a sane thing to do.

Between a site that allowed you to purchase automobile spray booths and related equipment and a site to purchase performance automobile parts, it made me realize the futility of “tagging” as a concept.

Even though these sites controlled their own finite inventory, and it might take a week of their time to set up and apply a sane library of tags to their products, they insisted on starting with ingesting tags from their suppliers to start with, then applying whatever they wanted at will.

At the end, for example, you’d have a paint spray guy with a tag of “spray booth” because you could use it in a spray booth, and a spray booth with a tag of “spray gun” because you could use a spray gun in it. You’d have a bunch of spark plugs with just “spark plug”, and a bunch with “copper spark plug”, just because two suppliers tagged their parts differently. Just insane poo poo.

We’d then field bug report after bug report around these loving tags. “There are too many tags in the list for people to choose from.” “Why doesn’t this product show up for this tag?” “Why doesn’t a search for the tags ‘copper’ and ‘spark plug’ return the same results as the tag ‘copper spark plug’?”

So, gently caress tags.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

deep dish peat moss posted:

My city is switching bus fares over to primarily be done through a mobile app instead of oldschool bus passes, where you buy the bus pass in the app and then wave your phone in front of a scanner on the bus. Because of this most places have stopped selling bus passes and pretty much the only place to get them anymore is by going to a lightrail station and buying them from the kiosk there (the train uses the same passes as the bus).

Except like half of the buses don't have the mobile fare scanner installed yet so if you only have the phone pass, you can't board.

So to ride the bus every day I have to ride the bus to a train station every once in a while just to pick up a bunch of passes. And if I ever run out of bus passes I have to walk 3 miles to the train station just to get more!!

I bought an in-app bus ticket the other day and every bus I went onto with it the driver just shrugged when it wouldn't scan and then waved us through. Got like four bus rides out of that single.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

That's actually why I prefer the actual physical passes, the scanners for those are almost always broken and I can ride for free :colbert:

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Professor Shark posted:

Is there a word for when enshitification is actually kind of cool, like the Bad Miracles from Nope?

My Roku TV has a promo wallpaper for the new season of Halo and it’s a destroyed future city. My TV feels like a pov WH40K battlefield! :evilbuddy:

I gotta see if my Roku stick has that!

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Trains in the UK (at least in my area) now require you to download an app to get your tickets unless you want to queue up to get them from the single ticket machine at the station. This machine is often out of order, which means you will not be allowed to get on the train for the journey that you paid for. Alternatively you can pay an extra £3 to have physical tickets printed and sent to you.

They used to email a PDF with the ticket on it but this is no longer an option because reasons.

Also it now costs £150 for a 3 hour train journey to visit my family. It is literally cheaper for me to get a flight to Spain and stay a couple of nights than it is to get a train for 150 miles.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

I've never had an issue just buying the tickets on the train, but I also haven't tried in a while.

They only check like 1/3 of the time anyway.

As a bonus, the Railcard website is dogshit. But you can get 3x the value of your tesco-clubcard points towards a railcard. The last one was £15 after the clubcard points. I then signed up for the very scammy looking site at the end of the railcard buying process, which gave me £20 cashback.

I've done this twice now, over two years of railcards. Absolutely worth it. Just remember to cancel the scam-site before the month is up.

Nettle Soup fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Feb 11, 2024

MrTargetPractice
Mar 17, 2004

I've used the term "cynical cashgrab" in the past. Seems pretty fitting.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Nettle Soup posted:

I've never had an issue just buying the tickets on the train, but I also haven't tried in a while.

They only check like 1/3 of the time anyway.

How do you get on to the train without a ticket? Are there not barriers or the surly wannabe-police guys watching so you don't climb over the barriers?

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Oh, I live in a lovely area. No barriers here unless I go into the city. Most stations outside the cities don't have any sort of barriers. On the Manchester to Liverpool line I think it's only Manchester and Liverpool that have barriers, everything else is just come-as-you-are.

And if I don't have a ticket when I get to the city, I can always just buy it from the people on the station. Shrug!

Nettle Soup fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Feb 11, 2024

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Nettle Soup posted:

Oh, I live in a lovely area. No barriers here unless I go into the city. Most stations outside the cities don't have any sort of barriers. On the Manchester to Liverpool line I think it's only Manchester and Liverpool that have barriers, everything else is just come-as-you-are.

My station has two platforms and one ticket machine but has barriers. There is sometimes a person at the station you can buy tickets from and sometimes there is a machine that works but both of those cost much more than buying a ticket online in advance, but like I said you now have to have an app on your phone to get that ticket.

quote:

And if I don't have a ticket when I get to the city, I can always just buy it from the people on the station. Shrug!

I tried this once when the barriers were open and there was nobody to buy a ticket from (this was pre-internet ticket purchase). Got to the other end and the guard at the barrier charged me a small fortune for travelling without a ticket.
I explained that I legitimately tried to pay but had no opportunity to do so, but the fucker wouldn't back down. I told him that I would pay on my credit card and then immediately call the credit card company to say my wallet had been stolen and to please cancel any charges in the last hour.

And I did. gently caress the UK train system so much. It's possibly the worst in the developed world.

Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 11, 2024

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Quote-Unquote posted:

How do you get on to the train without a ticket? Are there not barriers or the surly wannabe-police guys watching so you don't climb over the barriers?

Here they just have these rail patrol folks that don't even board every time, and when they do they just do one car per stop. So you can pay attention to where they are and move to a different car when they're coming to yours. Or you can just carry an unactivated pass and if they board you say "sorry I was in a hurry and didn't get it activated" and they just activate it for you, then you ride for free any time they don't come onboard. Or you can disembark when they get on and just wait 10mins for the next train.

Also it's customary for people to leave their pass sitting on the train when they're done riding for the day so sometimes you can just get one for free by checking on the empty seats

But they never check your ticket to board they don't have the staffing for that. They just check mid-ride

Also if you're white and clean cut and they catch you without a pass they just kick you off and don't fine you but everyone else gets a $500 fine

America at work here

E: I should point out that this is lightrail not like a train train. It only costs $4 for an all-day pass.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Feb 11, 2024

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



I should probably try "my phone can't get a connection to get the ticket on the app" to see if they'll let me through.

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

Blue Moonlight posted:

Even though these sites controlled their own finite inventory, and it might take a week of their time to set up and apply a sane library of tags to their products, they insisted on starting with ingesting tags from their suppliers to start with, then applying whatever they wanted at will.

Found your problem.

Inventory tagging systems are the same as any other data system, put garbage in, get garbage out. Ingesting vendor data without contractually obligating vendors to provide accurate data in the correct fields is suicide for accuracy, and you'd need to be Granger-sized to obligate your suppliers to do that.

Collecting, verifying, and entering unit data takes time, which costs money. If you're Granger, that's worth every penny because of the number of orgs that shop Granger specifically because of their robust and *guaranteed correct* inventory information. If you want to be like them, you gotta do it from the drop. If you already have a reputation for incomplete or inaccurate inventory data, you'd need to basically fully relaunch to get people to trust you to that degree again. In a lot of industries it might be worth it to be the only one (or one of the few) with dead-on information, but the upfront costs of dumping all your extant data, severing from your suppliers' data, and finding and entering the correct data by hand probably wouldn't pay off for several years, and no MBA is going to take a quarterly hit for the promise of future gains.

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

[ASK] ME ABOUT MY LOVE FOR 1'S
This is opposite of this thread but Granger fuckin rules. It's so nice shopping there.

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck

Large Testicles posted:

This is opposite of this thread but Granger fuckin rules. It's so nice shopping there.

I don't know if "pleasant surprise whenever something isn't lovely" can sustain a thread, but I got got some Vienna Beef relish the other day and they filled that bad boy all the way to the top. The relish was flush with the top of the jar. Honestly impressed.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I bought two jars of marmalade today (because I’m a fiend) and they were impressively filled to the top as well.

I figure it must be an over-supply concern on their end, because no way would a company in 2024 skip on reducing amounts by 15%. Either they have a supply of glass jars they need to use before reducing or they’d have too much marmalade at the end of the day and not enough jars or something.

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

Rochallor posted:

I don't know if "pleasant surprise whenever something isn't lovely" can sustain a thread, but I got got some Vienna Beef relish the other day and they filled that bad boy all the way to the top. The relish was flush with the top of the jar. Honestly impressed.

Granger sells vienna beef marmalade? I can't say I'm entirely surprised, but still.

I'd pay good money (though still probably less than they'd charge) for Granger-brand groceries.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!
Grainger and McMaster Carr are good shopping experiences because their customers are businesses with lots of money and zero patience for bullshit

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
continuing my complaints about restaurants... went somewhere recently that had a QR menu. whatever thats common enough these days. but you also had to order through the menu website. the QR code had the table number included which was nice, but you had to pay at time of ordering. thats convenient if you want to split the check between everyone i suppose but my family had to pass around one phone and input their order so we could pay together then type in the credit card etc. took forever. then when we later decided to order dessert had to do the whole process over again

dumb

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
I frequently have to disable and reenable my bluetooth so that the sound equipment I work with can integrate properly with my laptop. This process has for a long time been; I click "search", I hit "b" and then "enter" and that takes me to the bluetooth settings. However, recently when I enter "b" for searching, the bluetooth settings come up second!



I don't even know what a game bar is

When I search for something starting with b... for the love of christ

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Salt Fish posted:

What is any other word in the format en____fication? Its got the same energy as whilst and m'lady.

Back in the long, long, ago, the Before Time, someone in cubicle at a company that made jars of olives realized that the company could simply put one fewer olive in every jar they produced. This tiny savings, magnified a hundred thousand fold, produced such a sizable profit that every person who dwelt in every cubicle across the land tried to do the same kind of thing in every single industry, paring the apple as closely as possible without ever digging the knife into the flesh of the fruit. At some point, they put computers in charge of everything. The 21st century dawned. There was a recession, and a pandemic. Though the greater society wallowed and foundered upon the rocks, the numbers needed to rise. Even if the hose was on fire, the plants needed to be watered. The machinery of 21st century capitalism no longer required the rind, or even, the flesh. It wanted blood. And so the enshittification began.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Woolie Wool posted:

A bit of column A, a bit of column B, unfolding slowly and chaotically over decades. The further you are from a big city and the less wealth you have, the sooner you will lose modern amenities.

It would be mildly amusing if all these preppers turn into families of inbred subsistence farmers as the big crash turns out to be a long, slow decline.

Kagrenak
Sep 8, 2010

Cerekk posted:

Grainger and McMaster Carr are good shopping experiences because their customers are businesses with lots of money and zero patience for bullshit

If only this were enough to get Thermo Fisher to fix their act. All their poo poo is terrible and the shopping experience is awful.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

thathonkey posted:

another thing ive noticed getting shittier is now a lot of restaurants (more casual / fast food type places) dont even have their menu online per se... they make you essentially begin a delivery order instead and thats the only way to browse the menu

they want to do individual and surge pricing like Amazon

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012

Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

Kagrenak posted:

If only this were enough to get Thermo Fisher to fix their act. All their poo poo is terrible and the shopping experience is awful.

I worked there briefly! That place sucks!

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Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Back in the long, long, ago, the Before Time, someone in cubicle at a company that made jars of olives realized that the company could simply put one fewer olive in every jar they produced. This tiny savings, magnified a hundred thousand fold, produced such a sizable profit that every person who dwelt in every cubicle across the land tried to do the same kind of thing in every single industry, paring the apple as closely as possible without ever digging the knife into the flesh of the fruit.

American Airlines literally did this in the 80s and saved tens of thousands of dollars a year.

They didn't stop at the single olive though...

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