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How we allocate space and resources for common use to maximise public good is literally what politics is. Debating and discussing politics is literally what this place is for. This issue deals with cost of living, climate change, toll roads, road tolls, access to employment, access for people with disabilities, urban design, public health, air quality, noise pollution, the interplay between local and state governments, and many more. I'm glad for the chance to hear objections, and try to balance keeping my replies brief with acknowledging the points people have been kind enough to take the time to raise. Cartoon posted:yet it took twenty years and nearly failed to happen multiple times. Which is why I'm saying that it needs to come from the top-down. Instead of relying on small community groups to successfully convince their councils to successfully convince the government to spend tens of millions of dollars on paths that don't actually do much by way of connecting the basin, go straight to the Premier who makes it a priority and it all flows from there. Thanks, but I'm not convinced this kind of attitude is really conducive to constructive discussion. Even though you appear to agree with a lot of what I'm saying we seem to be talking past each other in your eagerness to get some dunks in, and I don't want to clog the thread with clarifications. But yeah of course I'd be happy to see any maps you got. edit - here relax with a couple of charming creatures from yesterday's ride 
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quote:Peter Dutton has sworn to repeal laws that will give workers the right to ignore unreasonable out-of-hours communications from their bosses. lmao potato's headed for obliteration.
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Feb 11, 2024 03:23
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There are whole dozens of people in this country who aren’t Sydney cyclists and couldn’t give a single gently caress about this Bucky
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Feb 11, 2024 03:27
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Solemn Sloth posted:There are whole dozens of people in this thread who aren’t Sydney cyclists and couldn’t give a single gently caress about this Bucky
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Feb 11, 2024 03:31
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Solemn Sloth posted:There are whole dozens of people in this country who aren’t Sydney cyclists and couldn’t give a single gently caress about this Bucky i can't even ignore this poo poo effectively because you mother fuckers keep touching and quoting the poop (edit: ss not a mother fucker to my knowledge, whatever revs your ebike m8)
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Feb 11, 2024 03:42
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Solemn Sloth posted:There are whole dozens of people in this country who aren’t Sydney cyclists and couldn’t give a single gently caress about this Bucky yes but now i have become emotionally invested in Bucky Quest and want to see how this plays out with him crashing like waves upon the rocks of lovely government & planning.
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Feb 11, 2024 04:36
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I can't read this loving thread anymore. Bucky is worse for this place than IWC was.
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Feb 11, 2024 04:39
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Solemn Sloth posted:There are whole dozens of people in this country who aren’t Sydney cyclists and couldn’t give a single gently caress about this Bucky Well we're burning their fuel and changing their climate too. That aside, I'm sorry that there are things in the world that might not affect you personally enough to give a gently caress, but that doesn't mean they're not important. Also if we can show that active transport can work in sydney with this formula then we can roll it out in other places as well.
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Feb 11, 2024 04:44
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GoldStandardConure posted:yes but now i have become emotionally invested in Bucky Quest and want to see how this plays out with him crashing like waves upon the rocks of lovely government & planning.
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Feb 11, 2024 04:56
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You guys are going to be embarrassed when Bucky is appearing on TV next week, next to Chris Minns, in a press conference about the Sydney Bicycle Superhighway.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Well we're burning their fuel and changing their climate too. That aside, I'm sorry that there are things in the world that might not affect you personally enough to give a gently caress, but that doesn't mean they're not important. Perth has good bike paths, I can cycle from one end of my glorious city to the other. They'll put bike paths next to new highways as well, just hundreds of kilometres of shadeless pavement, no toilets, no water, an as many snakes as there are sticks that also sort of look like snakes. So I don't need your bike chat Bucky, it's not our fault you bike plebs couldn't put together enough pennies to afford a brown coloured foot path with the picture of a bike stencilled onto it.
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an egg posted:this. i need to see this arc come to a conclusion or i will never know peace. Do you think Bucky's unbearable cravings for attention will conclude with it? That road will simply meet another, and that with another, on and on forever like a fantasy bicycle path lined with helpfully redesigned Aboriginal flags. You will never know peace either way.
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Feb 11, 2024 05:11
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Chicken Parmigiana posted:I can't read this loving thread anymore. Bucky is worse for this place than IWC was. the reason bucky gains so much traction is no one talks about anything else lol. You have two posts in this whole dang thread!
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Feb 11, 2024 05:29
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Chicken Parmigiana posted:I can't read this loving thread anymore. Bucky is worse for this place than IWC was. IWC was pretty funny though
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I'd be really annoyed by Bucky if there was any other good posting going on it was drowning out E: I apologize, my phone was off disregard.
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gay picnic defence posted:IWC was pretty funny though You can't tell me there haven't been some real diamonds in the rough in the Bucky posting. "Get the army reserve to dig a tunnel" is still right there
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Twelve tunnels technically. Just little ones though. Isn’t that the exact sort of poo poo they need to practice? The Snowy Hydro got up under the defence act or whatever, because energy policy is actually a matter of national security, and some things need top-down planning that current administrative structures don't allow. quote:Following World War II, the Government of New South Wales proposed that the flow of the Snowy River be diverted into the Murrumbidgee River for irrigation and agricultural purposes. There was little emphasis placed on the generation of power. A counter proposal by the Government of Victoria involved a greater generation of power, and involved diversion of the Snowy River to the Murray River. Additionally, the Government of South Australia was concerned that downstream flows on the Murray River would be severely jeopardised.
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The front page of The Age has the Greens talking about getting rid of negative gearing again. Serious question - what would this mean for renters? Increased rent? Kicked out and have the landlord's family move in? Or just kicked out and houses left empty out of spite?
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Bucky i’m going to conceal a catapult on one of your bike paths and fling you and your adult tricycle into a pile of manure/alligator enclosure/womens change room. Your thoughts?
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Animal Friend posted:just get a Wizard Master to do it
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Feb 11, 2024 06:48
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used to be you could talk about the prime minister in here but you cant any more because of the woke
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I kind of skim read the Sydney bike chat cos I don't know much about about Sydney, but I do commute by bike. It doesn't piss me off cos I know gently caress all about urban planning or civil engineering so I've been learning a thing or two. I admire Bucky's perseverance, and it's not like I'm contributing compelling discourse to the thread.
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Feb 11, 2024 07:52
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All I can tell about it is that it's the second most Bike Rider Vs Cyclist Chat I've seen
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Buckyposting is making me wish I could un-ride my bike
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When I was in Sydney last Saturday there was a guy in a democracy manifest shirt vaping weed as he walked past everyone
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:You can't tell me there haven't been some real diamonds in the rough in the Bucky posting. "Get the army reserve to dig a tunnel" is still right there The mad max garbage city in the desert to house the reffos was a good one too, but IWC buying hundreds of accounts just to troll auspol is next level
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Megillah Gorilla posted:The front page of The Age has the Greens talking about getting rid of negative gearing again. Abolishing negative gearing doesn't change the quanta of existing housing stock. Maybe some investors will decide not to be landlords and sell, either to other investors or to occupiers (which would free up another property for occupation/rent etc). I don't think the issues with housing supply (i.e. new dwellings being built) would be addressed at all, the supply side constraints appear to be planning controls and lack of labour to build. The ALP policy at the 2019 election was to restrict negative gearing to new dwellings only, providing an incentive to build. Wouldn't fix the supply side issues though. Abolishing or maintaining negative gearing is a tax policy, not a housing policy. You change it if you're worried about the amount of revenue the government doesn't collect due to landlords claiming deductions against their other income streams. Ditto capital gains tax discount rules. Not having such generous treatment of investment properties would possibly have helped avert the housing crisis by not encouraging rampant property speculation, but I have no idea how you unscramble that egg now without destroying a huge amount of "wealth", which would have a massive impact across the whole economy.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:The front page of The Age has the Greens talking about getting rid of negative gearing again. I'm all for scrapping negative gearing but it'll do sweet gently caress all for renters. Rent meets the market and we live in a country that has under built dwellings and under funded public housing for years, leaving us with a huge shortage of houses. Best case scrapping negative gearing forces over leveraged rent seekers to release properties back onto the sale market.
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Abolishing negative gearing doesn't change the quanta of existing housing stock. Maybe some investors will decide not to be landlords and sell, either to other investors or to occupiers (which would free up another property for occupation/rent etc). What the gently caress does this have to do with bike paths?? Take it to the relevant thread mate
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The CGT discount is the real issue anyway, they should bring back indexation.
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Bobsledboy posted:I'm all for scrapping negative gearing but it'll do sweet gently caress all for renters. Rent meets the market and we live in a country that has under built dwellings and under funded public housing for years, leaving us with a huge shortage of houses. If landlords sell, their tenants get forced back onto the market as well, which will lead to more rent competition and rents increasing (especially as people desperate to avoid becoming homeless are more likely to commit to higher rents than they would otherwise). And the people turfed out of the rental properties won't be in anymore of a position to buy than they already were. The now empty properties will be picked up by the big corporate landlords with thousands of properties, and as they consolidate supply rent will only go up. We don't even need to speculate, we can just look at what is happening in the US. The only way to improve housing is to make investment properties a financial loss. Not just 'less profitable', but an actual financial liability. Anything less than that is useless because the deck is already too far stacked in favour of those who own multiple properties.
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Oh my GOD can the retard mods do their loving jobs and start probing people who post offtopic poo poo in the bike paths thread?
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This could be a real controversial opinion but I don't give a rats rear end about the IR laws around the "right to disconnect", and here's why: The ALP didn't really intend for actual repercussions for employers if these are breached. Now I could be completely wrong but my understanding of a law is that a law needs to be enforceable and require the imposition of penalties for breaching said law. The ALP acknowledges most agreements will be informal or mutual, but what is the point of the new law if there's no penalty and probably no enforcement. How does this significantly differ from existing laws which also by and large place undue burden and onus on the employee? At present, IR laws are barely enforced and the only real reason for employers to not gently caress with their employees is that they'll quit and it's still an employees market. Maybe it's just me being really cynical but if you make a law, actually mean it rather than whatever the gently caress this is or just enforce the ones you have.
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HazCat posted:If landlords sell, their tenants get forced back onto the market as well, which will lead to more rent competition and rents increasing This is one of those impacts that has a bunch of convoluted causes and effects though, to a smaller investment buyer having a good long term tenant already in the property is often a plus not a minus and it seems more likely to be desirable in an absence of negative gearing. I think it's important to keep stuff like this in mind but it's not a truism by any means
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:This is one of those impacts that has a bunch of convoluted causes and effects though, to a smaller investment buyer having a good long term tenant already in the property is often a plus not a minus and it seems more likely to be desirable in an absence of negative gearing. I think it's important to keep stuff like this in mind but it's not a truism by any means I was a good long term tenant (8 years in the same property, never missed rent once, got my full deposit back). I still got turfed when the owner of my apartment sold it, because it got bought by developers who immediately set up to knock the whole place down to build luxury apartments in its place. ETA and I wasn't even the person who'd been there the longest. My neighbours had been there for 10, 13 and 14 years. The landlords most likely to value long term tenants are the same landlords most likely to be pushed out and replaced by corporate landlords. I don't know about how the other states are faring, but here in Melbourne I wouldn't bet on many tenants getting to stay on if the owner of their property is squeezed to sell it.
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HazCat posted:I was a good long term tenant (8 years in the same property, never missed rent once, got my full deposit back). I still got turfed when the owner of my apartment sold it, because it got bought by developers who immediately set up to knock the whole place down to build luxury apartments in its place. Ah, found your problem, you were/are living in Melbourne
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gay picnic defence posted:The mad max garbage city in the desert to house the reffos was a good one too, but IWC buying hundreds of accounts just to troll auspol is next level What would a fully connected cycle superhighway to the garbage city look like? how much would it cost? can we connect sydney and melbourne to the garbage city via high speed rail? will the public transport in garbage city have christmaa decorations and water bottles in them, or will all of that be used to construct the garbage city? can the army just build it?
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GoldStandardConure posted:can we connect sydney and melbourne to the garbage city via high speed rail? You wrote Sydney twice mate quote:can the army just build it? Just point a gun at some natives, it'll be a lot cheaper.
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