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Seppo is a Ausification of Septic which is short for Septic Tank which is Cockney rhyming slang for Yank (because they're full of poo poo) This isn't complicated.
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Yeah, everyone in Europe knows that term. This is just another case of native English speakers being worse at their own language.
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Feb 13, 2024 19:44
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Appalachians coming through Dishonorable mention for the Carolinas
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Feb 13, 2024 21:01
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Phlegmish posted:Appalachians coming through Basically areas with slaves and areas with mountains
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Feb 13, 2024 21:13
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Yeah. Example #6,789 of politically-loaded maps determined by geological processes from millions of years ago.
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Feb 13, 2024 21:18
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Muscle Tracer posted:I know Louisiana has a lot of swamp but calling it "Plaguemine" seems a little on the nose. Fun fact: “plaquemine” comes from an indigenous word for persimmon.
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Feb 13, 2024 21:43
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In 2024, every area in the South that voted against secession, even the places that were savaged by irregulars, even those that sent men to fight for the Union, are proud of their Confederate heritage
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Feb 13, 2024 21:49
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:In 2024, every area in the South that voted against secession, even the places that were savaged by irregulars, even those that sent men to fight for the Union, are proud of their Confederate heritage You don't know any Black Southerners do you?
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Feb 13, 2024 22:02
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Don't know if you're misinterpreting his post, but presumably barely any black Southerners were allowed to vote in 1860, and most of those counties that voted against secession probably have low black populations even today. I wonder if it's actually true or just  , though. Do these areas like East Tennessee have Confederate flags all over the place? If so, that would be sad.
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Feb 13, 2024 22:49
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OwlFancier posted:It's a derivation of cockney rhyming slang which itself is quite uncommon. Historically I think it probably would have been "septic" in the UK. "Separatist" seems a likelier derivation.
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Feb 13, 2024 22:49
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quote:VVV: So is it just one of those ironic things that is only used by edgelords on the Internet, like "Usian" instead of "American"? It’s 100% this.
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Feb 13, 2024 22:56
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Muscle Tracer posted:"Separatist" seems a likelier derivation. But that doesn't rhyme with Yank. Cockney rhyming slang is loving stupid as hell and anyone who uses it is a dumb person, but it does have rules.
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Feb 13, 2024 22:59
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Phlegmish posted:Don't know if you're misinterpreting his post, but presumably barely any black Southerners were allowed to vote in 1860, and most of those counties that voted against secession probably have low black populations even today. They do
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Feb 13, 2024 23:23
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Phlegmish posted:Don't know if you're misinterpreting his post, but presumably barely any black Southerners were allowed to vote in 1860, and most of those counties that voted against secession probably have low black populations even today. my high school was named after the founder of the kkk
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Feb 13, 2024 23:45
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Phlegmish posted:Don't know if you're misinterpreting his post, but presumably barely any black Southerners were allowed to vote in 1860, and most of those counties that voted against secession probably have low black populations even today. In 2024 you can find confederate flags in rural areas of Union states so in Tennessee yeah they definitely do
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Feb 14, 2024 01:35
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Phlegmish posted:Don't know if you're misinterpreting his post, but presumably barely any black Southerners were allowed to vote in 1860, and most of those counties that voted against secession probably have low black populations even today. It is pretty sad.
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Feb 14, 2024 01:48
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I came across one in the wild in backwoods rural-rear end Quebec, it just means you hate the blacks now
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Feb 14, 2024 02:07
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Eiba posted:It is pretty sad. Agreed. Even if you don't care about the slavery angle, which you should, it would ideally still be a point of pride to remain loyal to your country, rather than betraying it. I love that Burnin' Sherman gang tag for that reason. Although we shouldn't be too quick to judge from Europe. I haven't done an extensive study on this, but it feels accurate to say that until fairly recently, the Confederate flag was treated as just another piece of Americana over here, Dukes of Hazzard style. [puffing on pipe] Gather 'round, I have yet another anecdote to tell. In 2009 or so, at a house party, the host (whom I barely knew) showed a few of us around in her bedroom for whatever reason. I noticed she had a giant Confederate flag hanging on her wall and said something about it, I don't remember what. She got somewhat defensive and explained that she hadn't been aware of its negative connotations when she put it up. Which begs the question of why she wouldn't just take it down, but whatever, I don't think I saw that person ever again after that night. I do think that in the past decade or so, more people here have become aware that it's not just a 'neutral' American symbol. It's been a long time since I saw a Confederate flag in the wild.
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Feb 14, 2024 02:16
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Badger of Basra posted:In 2024 you can find confederate flags in rural areas of Union states so in Tennessee yeah they definitely do I went camping at Priest Lake Idaho with friends last summer (beautiful, highly recommend it) and literally the first thing I saw after the Welcome to Idaho sign when we crossed the state border was a flea market that included the a tent that was a giant confederate flag. Idaho wasn't even a loving state in 1860.
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Feb 14, 2024 02:21
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Phlegmish posted:Although we shouldn't be too quick to judge from Europe. I haven't done an extensive study on this, but it feels accurate to say that until fairly recently, the Confederate flag was treated as just another piece of Americana over here, Dukes of Hazzard style. Noticed a lot of Confederate flags where there were farmer protest signs, last summer in Benelux. A lot more than I remembering seeing in the past.
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Feb 14, 2024 03:06
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There's a big historical aircraft association which got started in the 1950s and has a large presence on the airshow circuit, since they own the world's largest collection of warbirds. It was originally named the Confederate Air Force, purely as an in-joke among the (then largely southern) members. About 20 years ago they got sick of the misunderstandings about what they actually stood for, and changed their name to the Commemorative Air Force. Good on them.
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Feb 14, 2024 03:42
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Powered Descent posted:There's a big historical aircraft association which got started in the 1950s and has a large presence on the airshow circuit, since they own the world's largest collection of warbirds. It was originally named the Confederate Air Force, purely as an in-joke among the (then largely southern) members. About 20 years ago they got sick of the misunderstandings about what they actually stood for, and changed their name to the Commemorative Air Force. Good on them. If they changed the name 20 years ago that means they were stilled called the Confederate Air Force into the 21st century.
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Feb 14, 2024 03:56
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Phlegmish posted:Agreed. Even if you don't care about the slavery angle, which you should, it would ideally still be a point of pride to remain loyal to your country, rather than betraying it. I love that Burnin' Sherman gang tag for that reason. The South's country was the Confederacy. Fighting a war for independence, even a losing one, forged a national identity that is only recently getting demolished as people reject it for the slavery angle (as they should). Air Skwirl posted:If they changed the name 20 years ago that means they were stilled called the Confederate Air Force into the 21st century. They changed the name in 2000, so still technically the 20th.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:03
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Byzantine posted:They changed the name in 2000, so still technically the 20th. Everybody celebrating on January 1st, 2000 is going to be shocked to learn that actually that was still the 20th century.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:08
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Byzantine posted:The South's country was the Confederacy. Fighting a war for independence, even a losing one, forged a national identity that is only recently getting demolished as people reject it for the slavery angle (as they should). We really should have executed a bunch of Southerners after the Civil War. Not like rank and file men, but the generals at least, and most of the major plantation owners.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:14
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Byzantine posted:The South's country was the Confederacy. Fighting a war for independence, even a losing one, forged a national identity that is only recently getting demolished as people reject it for the slavery angle (as they should). Shut up, Ottoman.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:29
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Air Skwirl posted:We really should have executed a bunch of Southerners after the Civil War. Not like rank and file men, but the generals at least, and most of the major plantation owners. Yeah, no argument from me. Letting the entire plantation class and the generals and the politicians just go back to work like nothing happened was one of the greatest mistakes in history, given that they now control the most powerful country to ever exist.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:34
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The 21st century started on 9/11
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There wasn't really much buy-in at all to the idea of the confederacy as people's new national identity. A lot of the people who fought for the confederacy did it as more loyal to their local state identity rather than to the weird new thing, even among the ruling classes who facilitated the secession and composed the new government. That led to the overall management of the confederacy being like herding cats. There was also a significant amount of farce and fraud in the secession votes, but I don't really all the details. It was messy.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:46
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FreudianSlippers posted:The 21st century started on 9/11 I genuinely believe that. Also the 90s didn't start until Nirvana released Nevermind.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:47
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Air Skwirl posted:I genuinely believe that. Also the 90s didn't start until Nirvana released Nevermind. "Nevermind was the 9/11 of the 90s."-- Air Skwirl
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Feb 14, 2024 05:02
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Ditocoaf posted:"Nevermind was the 9/11 of the 90s."-- Air Skwirl Every decade starts with a culturally impactful event, some of them are awesome, some of them are terrible.
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Feb 14, 2024 05:22
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Air Skwirl posted:Every decade starts with a culturally impactful event, some of them are awesome, some of them are terrible. What was the 2010s event, do you figure?
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Feb 14, 2024 06:04
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Petanque posted:What was the 2010s event, do you figure? Obama's election, even though that happened in 2008. Or the housing collapse, which also happened in 2008. 2020s started with Covid.
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Feb 14, 2024 06:07
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COVID, the subprime mortgage crisis, 9/11, and Nevermind.
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Feb 14, 2024 06:10
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Muscle Tracer posted:Everybody celebrating on January 1st, 2000 is going to be shocked to learn that actually that was still the 20th century. This was an argument that a lot of snotty know-it-all assholes online* picked at the time. Nobody gave a poo poo then either. *Including me at 19. Yeesh.
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Feb 14, 2024 06:26
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Muscle Tracer posted:Everybody celebrating on January 1st, 2000 is going to be shocked to learn that actually that was still the 20th century. Year 0 exists they can't hide the truth forever
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Feb 14, 2024 06:40
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Air Skwirl posted:I genuinely believe that. Also the 90s didn't start until Nirvana released Nevermind. agreed. also long/short centuries are a real thing in historiography, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_eighteenth_century
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Ditocoaf posted:"Nevermind was the 9/11 of the 90s."-- Air Skwirl img-nikki-sixx-jumping-from-towers.jpg
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