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Nate once posted in this very thread but hasn't been seen for a long time Please come back
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He used to NPC for the large larp I help to write, really stand-up guy. I mainly knew him on Twitter for years and didn't realise it was the same guy I knew from larp!
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Feb 13, 2024 20:36
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Phenotype posted:So I've read my first Warhammer books! Fun stuff, if a little schlocky. Read the first Eisenhorn trilogy (very good) and the first Cain anthology (not as well-written but I think the character is more fun) as well as starting on the Eisenhorn Magos book, which has kinda sucked so far, most of it is short stories that don't actually have Eisenhorn in them. After Eisenhorn you could go to Ravenor, which follows his apprentice. The Magos takes place between those and the two Bequin books, Pariah and Penitent. ADB's Black Legion books are pretty good, and the Priests/Forges/Gods of Mars trilogy by McNeil is pretty good.
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Feb 13, 2024 21:43
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Hey, finally got a shipping notification for those reprints of the Rogue Trader rulebook, I'd basically forgotten about that. Should be here next week.
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Feb 14, 2024 01:17
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Phenotype posted:So I've read my first Warhammer books! Fun stuff, if a little schlocky. Read the first Eisenhorn trilogy (very good) and the first Cain anthology (not as well-written but I think the character is more fun) as well as starting on the Eisenhorn Magos book, which has kinda sucked so far, most of it is short stories that don't actually have Eisenhorn in them. Always read Cain books as pallette clensers rather than bulldogging your way through them. THey're more about the characters bouncing off each other, so the plots kinda get samey until MUCH later. If you're into the newer Necrons, Infinite and the Divine is basically a Comedy.
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Feb 14, 2024 01:55
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A Divine Comedy?
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Feb 14, 2024 02:38
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Aaronicon posted:Hey, finally got a shipping notification for those reprints of the Rogue Trader rulebook, I'd basically forgotten about that. Should be here next week. Nice! I have a copy but haven't been able to scare up a group to play it.
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Feb 14, 2024 02:44
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Arc Hammer posted:A Divine Comedy? Infinitely so!
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Feb 14, 2024 02:54
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Calax posted:Always read Cain books as pallette clensers rather than bulldogging your way through them. THey're more about the characters bouncing off each other, so the plots kinda get samey until MUCH later.
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Feb 14, 2024 04:12
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Books I've enjoyed since I last posted in this thread: Lords of silence Bile trilogy Gene father Watchers duology End and death all 3 parts Requiem infernal (!!! Real good !!!) Blindsight (not Warhammer. Sorry.) I've done all the eisenhorns and ravenors and sequins, the night lords and ghosts... I think next is either this Black Legion trilogy or Saturnine. Oh! I've also done ghaz, infinite and divine and twice dead king (both) One question about end and death 3 : did Abaddon actually use demon powers or did Erebus use them for him. My understanding was that he was straight edge but that sideways move kind of implied otherwise ? Serdain fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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Feb 14, 2024 14:34
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Serdain posted:One question about end and death 3 : did Abaddon actually use demon powers or did Erebus use them for him. My understanding was that he was straight edge but that sideways move kind of implied otherwise ? I asked the same and got no reply so I did some other reading and thinking and this is my take Control not controlled - This is the start of him willing to use chaos as a tool instead of plain ignoring it. At this point he is ok with others using it for his own gain and I assume in Black Legion 3 we will see him use the powers offered himself.
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Feb 14, 2024 14:51
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/14/the-hand-of-abaddon-makes-a-move-in-the-penultimate-dawn-of-fire-novel/ With the Horus Heresy finally over, we can now focus on the other major event going on in the Warhammer universe. By getting another Dawn of Fire book written by Nick Kyme.   quote:As the Indomitus Crusade rages on, Inquisitor Rostov discovers vital intelligence that could reveal the plan of the notorious Hand of Abaddon, and hastily gathers together those loyal to his cause. Defending the Anaxian Line, Ultramarines Lieutenant Ferren Areios uncovers a dread vision that has ties to the mission of an old ally. Meanwhile, Magda Kesh campaigns alongside the 84th Mordian. Though she refutes her fate as something more than a mere soldier, is she truly touched by the Emperor?
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Feb 14, 2024 15:11
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Serdain posted:One question about end and death 3 : did Abaddon actually use demon powers or did Erebus use them for him. My understanding was that he was straight edge but that sideways move kind of implied otherwise ? notaspy posted:
His thing is that he won't personally accept the offered gifts. He saw how the attached strings ensnared Horus, and won't make the same mistake. He'll leverage it, as demonstrated by allowing Erebus to do wizard poo poo, but he's going to keep a buffer between himself and the warp. To Abaddon, it's not "accepting a gift from Chaos," he's letting Erebus use his own damnation to assist the cause. One thing that surprised me the most about this whole series was how beloved Horus was by everyone. His sons, brothers, the Emperor, the Old Four, everyone. And how he attempts to reciprocate that love, even to the end. Horus's greatest crime was being loved too much.
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Feb 14, 2024 15:47
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hm no I think it was all the murdering
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Feb 14, 2024 16:19
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moths posted:His thing is that he won't personally accept the offered gifts. He saw how the attached strings ensnared Horus, and won't make the same mistake. I guess the real heresy was the friends we made along the way.
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Feb 14, 2024 16:28
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Everyone loved Sanguinius, not Horus. Horus was respected and admired, but not necessarily loved
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Feb 14, 2024 16:52
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moths posted:One thing that surprised me the most about this whole series was how beloved Horus was by everyone. His sons, brothers, the Emperor, the Old Four, everyone. And how he attempts to reciprocate that love, even to the end. Yeah, it's pretty neat and it's kind of unfortunate that the first few books of the Heresy are so rushed compared to the leisurely sprawl of the rest of the series, so we barely get to see Horus as the charisma-supernova that he's supposed to be. One of the better scenes in The Lost and the Damned is a brief one where a traitor Guardsman reflects on the time he saw Horus in person and was so awed that he immediately was willing to follow him into Hell itself, and subsequently does.
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Feb 14, 2024 17:04
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Everyone loved Sanguinius, not Horus. Horus was respected and admired, but not necessarily loved I think they were both meant to inspire love but in different ways. Sanguinius is explicitly inhumanly perfect, a literal angel brought into reality, whereas Horus is meant to be the guy who can immediately step into the role of either your father figure or your best friend - despite the fact that as a primarch he isn't exactly human, he inspired a human kind of love and devotion, as opposed to what Sanguinius inspired. But again this is my vague impression because the actual content about it is very scant. Outside of Horus Rising, there's some mentions in the Sanguinius primarch book, but it's not really explored in detail.
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Feb 14, 2024 17:10
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The charisma is Horus is in part also based on warp power and genetic resonance (not a real thing ) which is kind of hard to write
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Feb 14, 2024 17:26
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Like the Sons of Horus think he’s charismatic Becuase that’s how they were programmed
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Feb 14, 2024 17:27
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yeah there's numerous points where it talks about how Marine loyalty to their primarch is genetic, and so is Custodian loyalty to big E (but in a different and more comprehensively engineered way).
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Feb 14, 2024 17:52
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Serdain posted:Blindsight (not Warhammer. Sorry.) This book is insanely pro-read, and I think there's enough thematic and genre overlap that any warhams fan is likely to appreciate it also
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Feb 14, 2024 18:33
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Bohemian Nights posted:This book is insanely pro-read, and I think there's enough thematic and genre overlap that any warhams fan is likely to appreciate it also its one of my favorite books and I would extremely recommend it to anyone into scifi and/or cosmic horror stuff. Echopraxia, the sequel, is also very good.
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Feb 14, 2024 18:52
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Edit: lol nvm the nevermind. I think you'll either love Blindsight or hate it, and if you hate it dont feel bad about putting the book down. Its somewhat polarizing. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Feb 14, 2024 |
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Feb 14, 2024 21:23
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Free read - https://rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm
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Feb 14, 2024 23:55
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Blindsight is very good scifi with some difficult to parse passages. Id heard iffy things about the sequel but liked how many interesting ideas based on real studies the author worked into the setting in the first one so maybe I'll give it a read. Who couldn't use more autistic space vampires in their life??? Thanks for the clarification re: Abaddon. I've always loved the idea that he's happy to reap the advantages of chaos but never personally give into it and was a bit miffed that they just threw that away... Control (indirectly) not controlled is so much more interesting of a line to draw. I suppose it's a fine setup for letting you tear things down but the capricious Gods will make sure you can never build anything up unless they think it's funny.
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Feb 15, 2024 00:22
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The 2nd one is great and has an absolutely brutal paragraph about believing in religion.
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Feb 15, 2024 00:28
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I agree with the goon hivemind, Blindsight is a fantastic book. Or at least I thought so when I read it back in 2010 or so. I had to leave my signed copy of Blindsight behind during a move to a different country a decade ago, still a bit salty about that 😾
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Feb 15, 2024 01:04
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I thoroughly enjoyed Rites of Passage and hope we get to hear more from the "too old for this poo poo" Navigator lady. I also really liked the wraparound stories of Magos involving the fresh-out-of-college dude doing Teach for America, winding up stuck in Space Alabama, and ultimately making the best of it.
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Feb 15, 2024 08:06
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Abnett has spectacular imagination for every day humans.
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Feb 15, 2024 13:17
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lines posted:He used to NPC for the large larp I help to write, really stand-up guy. I mainly knew him on Twitter for years and didn't realise it was the same guy I knew from larp! I've been trying to lure him back to NPC for years.
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Feb 15, 2024 13:21
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Abaddon is a great character as developed because he really shows the limits of chaos, its self-defeating nature and the kind of person it attracts. The one thing he could do that would defeat the imperium is the one thing he can never, by definition, do: unite the chaos powers behind him. They won’t ever let him accomplish his goal because then they have no leverage over him, and he won’t ever give in to them because then he’d never accomplish his goal. He’s a guy running on an endless treadmill chasing a carrot, and by this point he must know it, but he’s too stubborn to change course. He has forgotten how to be anything other than what he is.
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Feb 15, 2024 14:43
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I've been trying to lure him back to NPC for years. Not that all our NPC crew aren't great but he was really excellent. Glad his writing career is doing well though.
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Feb 15, 2024 14:54
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I totally missed there are Votann in the new Dawn of Fire book. Votann fans still having it rough when it comes to lore.
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Feb 15, 2024 16:27
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I have an idea floating about my brain about how the votann are the real inheritors of the golden age of humanity who are secretly pissed at The Imperium. Back during the dark age everyone lived happily together, man and machine, but man's arrogance about the warp left the Men of Iron no choice but to go to war to protect the human species. Their major allies in this was the votann. After they lost the votann fled to the core with their robo biddies and baseline humans left them alone. Several thousand years later 30k happens.
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Feb 15, 2024 16:40
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From abandons pov defeating the imperium is wrong. TEATD 3 I though nicely illustrated this. He hosed up bigly. Thanks Erebus 🙏
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Feb 15, 2024 16:44
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Grammarchist posted:I thoroughly enjoyed Rites of Passage and hope we get to hear more from the "too old for this poo poo" Navigator lady. My dream novel is Navigator lady vs Trazyn/Orikan and/or a teamup of all three. It would be so perfect.
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Feb 15, 2024 16:52
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D-Pad posted:My dream novel is Navigator lady vs Trazyn/Orikan and/or a teamup of all three. It would be so perfect. I want a Trazyn book (or short story anthology) that’s just him and his servants committing increasingly elaborate and insane heists to steal random poo poo.
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Feb 15, 2024 17:04
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Cooked Auto posted:I totally missed there are Votann in the new Dawn of Fire book. Oh poo poo, Rostov and Votann? Book Of The Year.
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Xenomrph posted:I want a Trazyn book (or short story anthology) that’s just him and his servants committing increasingly elaborate and insane heists to steal random poo poo. Trazyn attempts to steal the Emperor. Just one madman running like hell through the Imperial palace as the entire Custodes force loses their collective poo poo. Edit: At the end Trazyn can figure out what the Emperor is preventing and just leave cursing because taking the Emperor would ruin all the other stuff he wants to steal like the astronomican.
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