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DemihumanResources posted:I'm going to reserve judgement on Firefox until I see it. They do bundle lots of awful poo poo, hostile default settings, and ads already but they're usually very good about being able to turn off things you don't want. Even usually without having to resort to twiddling about :config settings. Losing that will be the actual tipping point for me. Shame you can't turn off their garbage, touch-first UI any more.
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Bring back Netscape https://isp.netscape.com/
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redshirt posted:Bring back Netscape weren't they bought by AOL?
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firefox is the closest descendant of netscape available but i agree they should bring it back
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Mobile Firefox has no functionality to go "back" to the home page, it opens a new tab and leaves the site you were on open. It's loving infuriating and I'm probably just going to go back to chrome despite trying to like Firefox for the last 4 months
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Cerekk posted:Mobile Firefox has no functionality to go "back" to the home page, it opens a new tab and leaves the site you were on open. It's loving infuriating and I'm probably just going to go back to chrome despite trying to like Firefox for the last 4 months Chrome did the same thing to me. Every time I open it, it opens a new tab. So every once in a while I'll open it and notice I have 7 tabs open and I'll close them all. Same thing in the FF app. It's annoying.
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The real downer in this article is finding out that the majority of Mozilla's revenue is subsidies from Google as a fig leaf protection against antitrust action. Cerekk posted:Mobile Firefox has no functionality to go "back" to the home page, it opens a new tab and leaves the site you were on open. It's loving infuriating and I'm probably just going to go back to chrome despite trying to like Firefox for the last 4 months I can't figure out what you're complaint is or how it differs from the way Chrome acts. I just tried this on my laptop and on my phone and I can go back to the home screen from a webpage without it opening a new tab? It does open a new tab if you hit the home button but I can't imagine why you would ever do that. As far as I can tell, Firefox and Chrome function identically except I can block ads on mobile with Firefox and Chrome insists on force feeding me clickbait hellscapes whenever I open the app.
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pencilhands posted:nerds are so tiresome Not nearly as tiresome as bitter old helpdesk slaves raging in impotent fury that someone might touch a computer and like it Personally I would never use surf or anything suckless but I can see why some people would like it. And in my experience "normal people" think it's cool when people do unusual things with computers and wiggle out partially from under the thumb of Big Data, the average goon's idea of "normal people" is the cool kids club from a 1980s teen comedy because they peaked in tenth grade. goons: my favorite mainstream tech thing is being enshittified also goons: I refuse to learn any new skills or accept any inconvenience to reduce the tech industry's control over my life Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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How on earth does Chrome use so much memory? Like I've got Gcal open and it says it's using 150 MB, and of course that's just one of like 30 tabs. It idles them now, but it still says my Chrome is currently using 6.5 GBs
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PostNouveau posted:How on earth does Chrome use so much memory? Like I've got Gcal open and it says it's using 150 MB, and of course that's just one of like 30 tabs. It's the websites themselves more than the browser, nobody writes HTML anymore, they just deploy huge stacks of middleware and that's even before the ads
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I only have 8 GB of RAM and Chrome rarely breaks 2 GB of usage even with a ton of tabs open, so I think that it must scale to what it has available to it to some extent.
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Woolie Wool posted:It's the websites themselves more than the browser, nobody writes HTML anymore, they just deploy huge stacks of middleware and that's even before the ads Oh, OK, so my poor hygiene browsing with 45 tabs open at all times would be hosed in Firefox or whatever other browser
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I have 5 tabs open in FF now and task manager is showing 18 instances of FF running with 1,280MB of RAM being used and I have 32GB. For reference.
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in chrome if you have a page like say for example the somethingawful forums open and you open new tabs from it with middle click then switch to them or other tabs or go take a poo poo or whatever and then go back to the first tab and open more links the same way, the new tabs will open to the immediate right of the first tab like god intended if you do the same in firefox on the other hand, the tab will appear to the right for half a second before getting moved to the end of the group of tabs opened from that tab. there are some about:config settings to have different but even worse behavior and i wish it just did it like chrome does. might switch to another chromium based browser especially if mozilla farts up ff with ai
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Yeep posted:Shame you can't turn off their garbage, touch-first UI any more. On desktop, you can, with https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix I got my compactness back, my tabs are real tabs and not floating buttons, and lots of other little fixes for the baby toy-ification of the UI.
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Have you tried the "Always Right" extension yet?
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Dip Viscous posted:I only have 8 GB of RAM and Chrome rarely breaks 2 GB of usage even with a ton of tabs open, so I think that it must scale to what it has available to it to some extent. Dumping pages out of memory all the time defeats the purpose of having loads of tabs open, not caring about tab hygiene is the biggest perk of having 64 gigs
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There aren't more than 4-5 websites worth looking at. Pfft tab hygiene
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Disturbing lack of Safari references
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car wash has taped over their card readers and now requires you to pay with their app. I declined and dude wanted to use his phone to take pictures of my credit card for his app instead  Woolie Wool posted:It's the websites themselves more than the browser, nobody writes HTML anymore, they just deploy huge stacks of middleware and that's even before the ads Talk more about this please, I'm in school for CS right now and grew up writing HTML and I Do Not understand why industry has adopted these gigantic piles of middleware to accomplish really quite simple tasks. Security issue? Some kind of pyramid scheme? I mean I hate JS too but do we really need to live like this
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euphronius posted:Disturbing lack of Safari references I keep a Safari browser open all day (along with Firefox and Chrome), and only have a gmail page open, yet every day I get a little warning from Safari that "This webpage was reloaded due to using too much energy" or something to that effect, and I just chuckle, looking at that plain rear end Gmail inbox.
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Lucky Greedo posted:Talk more about this please, I'm in school for CS right now and grew up writing HTML and I Do Not understand why industry has adopted these gigantic piles of middleware to accomplish really quite simple tasks. Security issue? Some kind of pyramid scheme? I mean I hate JS too but do we really need to live like this The industry has never actually used HTML/CSS/VanillaJS directly at scale because it has always failed at two key aspects: Reusable components and dynamic content. However, that used to all be hidden away server-side. The bloat was always there, it has just been moved to the user's browser. The modern middleware stacks (React/Vue/Angular/etc...) are actually way easier for developers to use than the old PHP/Ruby/ASP approach if only because at least there is now only a single programming language to deal with, and you can share code between the site itself and the program that builds it. Server-side infrastructure is also basically trivial now. On the flip-side, the machinery that handles reusability and dynamic stuff are now exposed to users. A lot of the bloat also comes from a ton of backwards-compatibility junk that the modern frameworks include to make sure sites still work on as many browsers as possible. If you don't care about that, stuff like pReact will give you an equivalent stack for about 3Kb. Aramis fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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Maybe there should be standards with respect to the internet.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:The real downer in this article is finding out that the majority of Mozilla's revenue is subsidies from Google as a fig leaf protection against antitrust action. From this thread in Chrome, if I hit back once I'm at the SA control panel, then back again and I'm on the Chrome homepage. From this thread in Firefox, if I hit back once I'm at the SA control panel, then back again and it opens another tab to display the Firefox homepage and leaves the SA control panel open in a background tab like a sociopath.
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That seems like something in your settings, my Firefox just walks back to the new tab screen if it reaches the end of a tab's history.
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euphronius posted:Maybe there should be standards with respect to the internet. The best part about standards is that there are so many to choose from
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Dip Viscous posted:Pale Moon is another weirdo option. i installed this thing at work along for a couple years with an old version of the adobe flash plugin that wasn't time bombed because it was pretty much the only way to run the lovely flash-based administration tools of outdated enterprise hardware thanks weirdos!
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r u ready to WALK posted:i installed this thing at work along for a couple years with an old version of the adobe flash plugin that wasn't time bombed because it was pretty much the only way to run the lovely flash-based administration tools of outdated enterprise hardware  I'm guessing you're referring to CIMC? I went through a huge fiasco for a customer figuring out how the gently caress I could get into the Flash-only management panel to update it then I did update it, and I had to go through the same loving hoops to get a Java version that would work. After 8 hours of loving around I got it updated to run HTML5
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They hosed up the concept of USB.
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ChthonicMasturbatr posted:Have you tried the "Always Right" extension yet? as far as i can tell it doesnt work, exact same behavior
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i was one of those schmucks that signed up for Peacock for a football game....it is by far the worst running streaming app I've had on the PS4. It ran like poo poo right out the gate. it tends to just crap out and need a hard app reset after 2 hours, without fail. the "crap out" has been really weird like it just got stuck on 1 frame of a completely unrelated show, with some weird garbled audio. maybe i was getting haunted idk
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20 Blunts posted:i was one of those schmucks that signed up for Peacock for a football game....it is by far the worst running streaming app I've had on the PS4. It ran like poo poo right out the gate. You mean paramount, but yeah, it's the worst
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paramount actually improved a lot in the 5 months since it stopped loading completely for me. I finally started up DS9 again and now it is remembering where I was regularly and letting me easily switch episodes, which it was terrible about before
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Armacham posted:You mean paramount, but yeah, it's the worst No, Peacock. NBC had an NFL playoff game that they only aired via Peacock.
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Salesforce gets shittier every time they "improve" it. Our platform updated to force you to pick between a user and queue when moving a case, defaults to user, and somehow several "users" were created with the same name as our work queues. 6 weeks later we find 130 unworked requests hanging out under a 'user' that shouldn't exist.
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dreezy posted:as far as i can tell it doesnt work, exact same behavior Bummer. I reckon there's a lot of little annoyances like that in Firefox, where someone spins up a bespoke fix that may or may not be a fix for others.
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big mean giraffe posted:Salesforce gets shittier every time they "improve" it. Our platform updated to force you to pick between a user and queue when moving a case, defaults to user, and somehow several "users" were created with the same name as our work queues. 6 weeks later we find 130 unworked requests hanging out under a 'user' that shouldn't exist. Literally the same thing just happened to us except instead of being assigned to nonexistent users they were assigned to the correct queue but in a nonexistent region I've never seen a good Salesforce integration. Wtf do those sf admins take an expensive 5-hour cert exam for!!!
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Large Testicles posted:weren't they bought by AOL? This page says it’s owned by Yahoo but Netscape corp was owned by AOL so maybe this is how they carved the corpse of netscape way back when. Interestingly enough the games section links to an aol property. The interesting thing is that isp.netscape.com seems to be a flawless presentation of AP news stories. Jesus christ its beautiful.
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Dip Viscous posted:I only have 8 GB of RAM and Chrome rarely breaks 2 GB of usage even with a ton of tabs open, so I think that it must scale to what it has available to it to some extent. I'm not a computer toucher, but my laptop has gone from pretty quick to just chugging and lagging. Task manager seems to say chrome is using ~80% in fits and bursts.
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