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Casimir Radon posted:There’s another Venom movie coming out this year. I enjoyed the first one but the sequel was really forgettable. Not quite 3 years ago and I only remember the very broad strokes. Pretty underwhelming after years of listening to Spiderman dorks shriek about how XTreme Carnage is. I just read something that reminded me that Venom gave a coming out speech in a rave int hat movie, so it at least has that
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Shageletic posted:I just read something that reminded me that Venom gave a coming out speech in a rave int hat movie, so it at least has that
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8one6 posted:J Jonah Jameson: Origins I would totally watch a JJJ origin movie if they used one of his original origins for hating heroes. He was a young reporter sent to Mississippi to cover Freedom Summer and had his fill of vigilantes in masks.
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Casimir Radon posted:It had some good stuff, mostly Venom antics, but the main plot is really forgettable.
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Hasturtium posted:Speaking as someone who read a lot of comics 30 years ago and was enough of a dork to get excited about Guardians of the Galaxy when it was first announced… who the gently caress are the Thunderbolts? Initially, Thunderbolts was a diamond in the rough during the lovely 90s. After this big storyline had the Avengers and Fantastic Four go missing, this new superhero team showed up and won the hearts of everyone. Then in the end of the first issue, we discover that the patriotic swashbuckling leader Citizen V is actually Baron Zemo and all the Thunderbolts are secretly all supervillains in disguise in a plot for world domination. The overarching plot was that various members find out that they genuinely enjoy being heroes and have a crisis of conscience, leading to them betraying Zemo. Hawkeye eventually sees promise in them and takes over as the leader. The problem is that they can't really do that as a movie because they already used that initial twist for Mysterio in Spider-Man: Far From Home. But the comic changed into different status quos and line-ups over the years. At one point it was just about an underground fight club made of villains. At one point it was a team of antiheroes starting a club where each member needed help with a personal mission that they couldn't do themselves, so they would pull names out of a hat to figure out who got to go next. Sometimes it would just be a blatant knockoff of Suicide Squad with varying levels of corruption depending on who was leading the team (ie. Norman Osborn, Luke Cage). Nearly everyone from the movie line-up has been a member of the team in one form or another, though there are no original members in there. Hell, other than Zemo, none of the original Thunderbolts have shown up in the MCU at all.
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Gavok posted:Initially, Thunderbolts was a diamond in the rough during the lovely 90s. After this big storyline had the Avengers and Fantastic Four go missing, this new superhero team showed up and won the hearts of everyone. Then in the end of the first issue, we discover that the patriotic swashbuckling leader Citizen V is actually Baron Zemo and all the Thunderbolts are secretly all supervillains in disguise in a plot for world domination. The overarching plot was that various members find out that they genuinely enjoy being heroes and have a crisis of conscience, leading to them betraying Zemo. Hawkeye eventually sees promise in them and takes over as the leader. That original twist wouldn't work for the movie anyway unless everyone was an Iron Man in a different armor. In the comics, you can have Atlas and Meteorite and reveal them to be Goliath and Moonstone no problem because nobody remembers how the gently caress they look and they are drawn differently from issue to issue anyway. You can not have Wyatt Russel show up and pretend to be Captain Freedom and then reveal that A-Ha! It was U.S. Agent all along!
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Maxwell Lord posted:You know they could just make a Paul Giamatti Rhino movie 
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Maxwell Lord posted:You know they could just make a Paul Giamatti Rhino movie You mean a movie where he shows up at the beginning with his pants pulled down, hobbling off-screen for 60 minutes only to return at the end in full Rhino armor?
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Can we retcon Sideways into a Rhino origin story?
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Grendels Dad posted:That original twist wouldn't work for the movie anyway unless everyone was an Iron Man in a different armor. In the comics, you can have Atlas and Meteorite and reveal them to be Goliath and Moonstone no problem because nobody remembers how the gently caress they look and they are drawn differently from issue to issue anyway. You can not have Wyatt Russel show up and pretend to be Captain Freedom and then reveal that A-Ha! It was U.S. Agent all along! Isn’t Zemo already in the mcu? Have these guys join the thunderbolts thinking they’re working for some government agency headed by Citizen V only for them to discover at the end of the first act that he’s actually Zemo under the mask and their operations led to small third world countries to be destabilized so fascist dictators can be installed in power. The third act twist is that Zemo’s black ops wetwork operation is in fact backed and funded by the US government and they have to choose between continuing to work for the organization or commit treason and fight against it.
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Zemo did a silly dance in a Disney+ show, so he's not a villain anymore.
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I think Zemo's whole deal in the MCU is that he hates super-powered people. They actually managed to develop that trait in the Falcon show fairly well. Would be kind of weird for him to do a 180 and lead his own Avengers, but I'd be willing to see what they make of it. More Daniel Brühl is a net good.
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The MCU kept up a weirdly persistent trend of supervillains always dying or being sidelined and forgotten about. Were they going to do anything with Justin Hammer? I suppose the Abomination too also got teased but dropped. The only one they even bothered to build up meaningfully was Thanos. And kinda Scarlet Witch.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The MCU kept up a weirdly persistent trend of supervillains always dying or being sidelined and forgotten about. Were they going to do anything with Justin Hammer? I suppose the Abomination too also got teased but dropped. The only one they even bothered to build up meaningfully was Thanos. And kinda Scarlet Witch. Mordo's gonna get his big break any day now baby! Seriously though, I feel like this trend has come back to bite the MCU in the rear end more and more as time goes on. They brought back Ronan for Captain Marvel and built him up as some big threat, even though he already died in an unrelated movie seven years ago. Seeing the villain get got in the end is great for a rush of instant gratification but that well is gonna run dry sooner or later if you just keep doing that poo poo forever.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The MCU kept up a weirdly persistent trend of supervillains always dying or being sidelined and forgotten about. Were they going to do anything with Justin Hammer? I suppose the Abomination too also got teased but dropped. The only one they even bothered to build up meaningfully was Thanos. And kinda Scarlet Witch. The Abomination showed again in She-Hulk and it was great because Tim Roth got to be a weirdo hippy and hold group therapy sessions for lovely Z-tier Marvel villains.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Were they going to do anything with Justin Hammer? Armor Wars is a movie now so he may show up in that, he did voice himself in What If? and seems down to return
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Justin Hammer had a brief appearance as a fellow prisoner in the Marvel one shot All Hail The King, which shows you what happened to Ben Kingsley's character after Iron Man 3.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Mordo's gonna get his big break any day now baby! Mordo and Strange's conflict happening entirely off screen between films is one of the dumbest throw away lines in MoM. He should of been the main villain, if they had used him will in Strange films he could of been a new Loki like recurring frenemy.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The MCU kept up a weirdly persistent trend of supervillains always dying or being sidelined and forgotten about. Were they going to do anything with Justin Hammer? I suppose the Abomination too also got teased but dropped. The only one they even bothered to build up meaningfully was Thanos. And kinda Scarlet Witch. I feel like this sort of thing would only make the MCU worse. The nature of movies vs comics is that you are only going to have a limited number of them. What is the point of saving all your villains if you never have time to revisit them? Right now heroes are lucky to get more than one solo film and usually each has a large stable of villains that can be explored for different stories. Imagine if they had to stick Ronan into GotG 2 and 3 instead of introducing Ego and High Evolutionary. Marvel smartly limited the number of recurring villains.
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It's less that Marvel doesn't have recurring villains, it's that they keep having villains that are painfully lame and can barely support a single movie. They rarely leave you really wanting more
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Zemo is a hero and should lead the Avengers.
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Imagine if they hadn't killed Michael B Jordan's character at the end of Black Panther, then they'd have a guy who was right all along, wanted to do the right thing, had a magic suit, and was a celebrity who could take over the role.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Imagine if they hadn't killed Michael B Jordan's character at the end of Black Panther, then they'd have a guy who was right all along, wanted to do the right thing, had a magic suit, and was a celebrity who could take over the role. They should of just recast any way. Any film that dealt with Boseman's death like it happened in universe was going to be a dire experience.
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ruddiger posted:Isn’t Zemo already in the mcu? Have these guys join the thunderbolts thinking they’re working for some government agency headed by Citizen V only for them to discover at the end of the first act that he’s actually Zemo under the mask and their operations led to small third world countries to be destabilized so fascist dictators can be installed in power. The third act twist is that Zemo’s black ops wetwork operation is in fact backed and funded by the US government and they have to choose between continuing to work for the organization or commit treason and fight against it. US government is the good guy in the MCU so you'd have to have it be HYDRA and then you are just doing Winter Soldier/civil war again
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Asterite34 posted:It's less that Marvel doesn't have recurring villains, it's that they keep having villains that are painfully lame and can barely support a single movie. They rarely leave you really wanting more Ironically enough I really wanted more Obadiah Stane. From the jump Marvel told me "better things are not possible", heh.
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Bridges had a hard enough time getting through production on Iron Man, imagine if he tried to make a movie with them today under the conditions they currently operate under. He'd go insane and quit halfway through shooting or something.
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Marvel released a picture of the Fantastic Four cast and forget those doubts I had yesterday, I'm on board for the looks at least. Now all they need is a half decent story!  
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A pitch straight for the dumpster (Disney+)
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it is funny that they teased Office Jim as Reed Richards and everyone was like "ew no" so they had to go back to the drawing board lol
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I wonder if the third time will be the charm and THIS will be the F4 movie that the people will love
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Fourth time.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:it is funny that they teased Office Jim as Reed Richards and everyone was like "ew no" so they had to go back to the drawing board lol He had been a popular fan cast for Reed for a while. The cameo was more for fan service than an actual test. Grendels Dad posted:I think Zemo's whole deal in the MCU is that he hates super-powered people. They actually managed to develop that trait in the Falcon show fairly well. Would be kind of weird for him to do a 180 and lead his own Avengers, but I'd be willing to see what they make of it. I could see him leading a group to do the right thing the worst way possible to make super heroes look stupid and ridiculous but Marvel would certainly benefit from fewer false flag storylines.
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It's me. The guy who wants to see the fantastic four set in the 60s with retro future poo poo. Ben is reading a Life magazine from December 1963 so maybe?
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's me. The guy who wants to see the fantastic four set in the 60s with retro future poo poo. Ben is reading a Life magazine from December 1963 so maybe? Hope it's a Mad Men/MCU crossover
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Napoleon DLC pack dropping March 1st https://twitter.com/AppleFilms/status/1758161576509514035
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Professor Shark posted:I wonder if the third time will be the charm and THIS will be the F4 movie that the people will love You mean four times the charm, because I still count the aborted Roger Corman Fantastic Four film. It at least got filmed, just never released.
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