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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

CopywrightMMXI posted:

Tell me everything about the WWF’s mini division in the mid 90s. Did mini-Vader, mini-mankind etc use those gimmicks outside of the WWF? Was this division part of the working arrangement with AAA?

it was part of the working arrangement with AAA, Mini Vader was Espectrito, Mini Mankind was Espectrito II and Mini Goldust was Mini Abismo Negro. They wrestled as the Mini WWF gimmicks in AAA but only in 1997 during the working arrangement.

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apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.
Can someone tell me what Super Dragon's deal is/was and why every clip I see of him it looks like he's trying to internally decapitate to his opponent?

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
He was trying to externally decapitate his opponent.

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

apophenium posted:

Can someone tell me what Super Dragon's deal is/was and why every clip I see of him it looks like he's trying to internally decapitate to his opponent?

thats what he was trying to do

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

apophenium posted:

Can someone tell me what Super Dragon's deal is/was and why every clip I see of him it looks like he's trying to internally decapitate to his opponent?

yes

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

genuinely super dragon was a huge nerd who decided he would do all japan in america and he sacrified his ankles for it, god bless him

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Super Dragon owns, Fat Super Dragon owns even more

obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MemsJR_Ws

Erin M. Fiasco
Mar 21, 2013

Nothing's better than postin' in the morning!



Super Dragon's deal is that he's cool as gently caress and has one of the best masks ever

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


DMorbid posted:

Super Dragon owns, Fat Super Dragon owns even more

obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MemsJR_Ws

I remember there was a story, & I can't even remember if it was real or just urban legend, of Super Dragon "shoot monkeyflipping" a fan who was incredibly annoying. Which is just such an absurd image that will never be able to leave my mind & I pray to all that is holy that it is in fact something that happened.

But yeah, Super Dragon's deal is just that he's some internet wrestling tape trader nerd who worshipped '90s All Japan & ended up training to become a wrestler. And after doing that he became one, a guy with an amazing presence & an absurd violent streak. It was so exciting 20 years ago, before the injuries really broke him down. Basically everything he did felt real. Probably a lot of it was, his curbstomp was lightyears ahead of anyone who has done it since.

Tampa Bae
Aug 23, 2021

Please, this is all I have
Super Dragon had a WCW match where he was a lanky, skinny lucha guy, wonder how his career would've changed if WCW hadn't gone out of business and he ended up with the contract

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81Sg45Rs_g

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Erin M. Fiasco posted:

Super Dragon's deal is that he's cool as gently caress and has one of the best masks ever

Not unlike Jushin Liger, which I hope Dragon would take as the high praise it is meant, Super Dragon has some of the best facial expressions in wrestling despite being masked.

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

PRAY FOR DEATH


Speaking of Super Dragon, does anyone have a link to the video of a PWG show where some dude in the crowd yells to Chris Hero "SUPER DRAGON IS GONNA gently caress YOU UP, HERO" and CH slow walked through the crowd and just stares the guy down?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

forkboy84 posted:

I remember there was a story, & I can't even remember if it was real or just urban legend, of Super Dragon "shoot monkeyflipping" a fan who was incredibly annoying. Which is just such an absurd image that will never be able to leave my mind & I pray to all that is holy that it is in fact something that happened.
I believe it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahY7A0zDkeU

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.
Sounds like I should watch some PWG

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

i won an authentic super dragon mask on x.com back in the day. not sure where it is now though

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE

DMorbid posted:

Super Dragon owns, Fat Super Dragon owns even more

obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MemsJR_Ws

Super Dragon had what I call Chris Hero Syndrome; he got better and somehow more agile as he got fatter.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i thought he was chris hero and everyone was joking that it wasn't. that's why he looked 6'4" until facing chris hero where he looked 5'11"

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug

apophenium posted:

Sounds like I should watch some PWG

Oh, buddy. Yeah.

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave
Jan 9, 2006

Popping up from out of nowhere...


When did WWE first start calling HHH “Paul” instead of “Hunter” on camera?

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

apophenium posted:

Sounds like I should watch some PWG
Here's Super Dragon and Kevin Steen attempting to murder each other for half an hour at PWG's Astonishing X-Mas 2005.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD9WbJWTxQw

The video quality on this upload is sketchy at best, but the full show can be found in higher quality if you look around.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGr_y8NxcAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXAQ93EcGMM

Germansimp
May 28, 2013



apophenium posted:

Sounds like I should watch some PWG

PWG is always worth watching, since they have always been somewhat of a Super-Indie where guys from different feds would wrestle each other that normally couldn't.

Be aware though that the older the shows, the worse the commentary has probably aged.

On a positive note, here is the match between John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt and John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodoQ3IGJEg

Sandman from ECW
Sep 6, 2011

Super Dragons come back in 2011(?) when he beat the gently caress out of the Young Bucks was the actual greatest night in the history of our sport

Sandman from ECW
Sep 6, 2011

Here is a YouTube.com clip of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGr_y8NxcAo

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007


That curb stomp

Also if you go looking for “X best moves of Super Dragon” compilations, just go see how many of the worst moves are Dragon just absolutely rag-dolling Excalibur.

[Edit] One of the other obligatory PWG videos

https://youtu.be/yM5Pa57H5RY

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.
Super Dragon my beloved

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



This is right up there with The Sandman returning to ECW to save Dreamer & Raven from being beaten down by Rhino & the Impact Players for surprise returns that I just watch on Youtube again & again because the reaction gives you chills

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

harperdc posted:

Also if you go looking for “X best moves of Super Dragon” compilations, just go see how many of the worst moves are Dragon just absolutely rag-dolling Excalibur.

Yes, without irony, show me all the variations of the Psycho Driver.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Dawgstar posted:

Yes, without irony, show me all the variations of the Psycho Driver.

https://youtu.be/TAZ2l4451dQ

Somebody needs to borrow the Psycho Driver II, IMO

Claytor
Dec 5, 2011

harperdc posted:

https://youtu.be/TAZ2l4451dQ

Somebody needs to borrow the Psycho Driver II, IMO

Quite possibly the only time in wrestling history that a pumphandle anything has looked good.

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

Claytor posted:

Quite possibly the only time in wrestling history that a pumphandle anything has looked good.

I’m partial to this one too

https://twitter.com/narukiroy/status/1022321412667846656

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Dawgstar posted:

Yes, without irony, show me all the variations of the Psycho Driver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMPb0OQFbQ0

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




I saw some backyard compilation once with what was described as a straightjacket psycho driver and I’ve never before been more certain that I was about to watch some dude get loving paralysed

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
It's long been deleted off YouTube but I'll always remember the 5 second clip in terrible resolution with a terrible numetal scream over it showing quite possibly the dumbest tag team finisher of all time.

One guy was hitting a vertebreaker as his tag partner had THE SAME GUY locked in and hitting a Schwein. If either if them hosed up the timing it would've resulted in internal decapitation and even if done correctly what the gently caress is that.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I'm reasonably sure Super Dragon murdering Excalibur in their Guerilla Warfare match contributed heavily to his retirement from in ring.

After one of Dragon's returns he was being his usual brutal self in the ring and Excalibur and Steen were on commentary and Ex goes "Hey, remember when we turned on him? What a terrible idea that was", Steen got a hearty chuckle

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Have been thinking a lot the last couple days about how much Mike Quackenbush and Super Dragon have in common and how completely different they are.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Had anyone ever shown up to a major PPV or show while high out of their gourd before Jeff Hardy at whatever TNA PPV that was? Obviously 90% of the roster was snorting coke in the 80s but I don't know if any of them came out unable to perform like him.

Also Jake Roberts but that PPV was some nobody.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


MassRafTer posted:

Have been thinking a lot the last couple days about how much Mike Quackenbush and Super Dragon have in common and how completely different they are.

Do a follow-up post, please.

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Had anyone ever shown up to a major PPV or show while high out of their gourd before Jeff Hardy at whatever TNA PPV that was? Obviously 90% of the roster was snorting coke in the 80s but I don't know if any of them came out unable to perform like him.

Also Jake Roberts but that PPV was some nobody.

Not exactly high, but British Bulldog was on a huge coke hangover when wrestling Bret at SummerSlam 92.

SG Bamboo
Aug 21, 2013

Smile. Win. Yay!

Jeff Hardy like two months before Victory Road, against Naito at Wrestle Kingdom

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Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


Admiral Joeslop posted:

Had anyone ever shown up to a major PPV or show while high out of their gourd before Jeff Hardy at whatever TNA PPV that was? Obviously 90% of the roster was snorting coke in the 80s but I don't know if any of them came out unable to perform like him.

Also Jake Roberts but that PPV was some nobody.

Kerry Von Erich in his latter years was rarely not stoned. Including when he wrestled.

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