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Jossar
Apr 2, 2018

Current status: Angry about subs :argh:
Been having a bad night for getting matches that don't fall apart instantaneously, but I did manage to complete a Trivial defense mission solo, so I can at least say I did something to help defend the citizens of Super Earth.

(Just ignore how I ended up killing so many that the mission was net-negative on Requisition.)

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LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

JBP posted:

I just did a hard defence mission and for those saying 380s don't kill anything lmao

Oh they kill things alright.

Your teammates.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

The Spear is insanely strong against robots in general - with the sole exception of being worse than the Recoilless/EAT against Dropships (which can the RR/EAT can 1-shot). That being said dropships are currently buggy as gently caress and don't correctly fall out of the sky as intended.
Spear lets you take out bot fabricators, tanks and turrets in one hit and from crazy rear end ranges to boot.
It also demolishes a lot of Bug heavies, and lets you take out the Spore Spewers from high ranges. If you work out the correct distance, you can 1-shot Bile Titans with it: basically wait until they are in spitting range and it will fly directly into their face.

Versus the automatons, though, I will never stop singing the praises of our lord and savior, The Unsafe Railgun. Against bots there is no better weapon. Tanks and Turrets are the only thing you have to either dump 6+ rounds into or shoot in the vents (3ish shots).

DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Feb 16, 2024

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

the secret with the new protect scientists mission appears to be everyone just hitting the drat button
you can finish it in 3 minutes if everyone hits the drat button instead of me running in circles trying to hit all the buttons

LuiCypher posted:

Doesn't really help, they do it when we get back to the ship. The public community in this game is really wearing me down...

my mistake. i thought you were talking about getting kicked before the end of mission, which apparently has been a thing with certain hosts. in such a case you get screwed out of mission rewards completely.

Getting boned on operation rewards is annoying, but pretty minor relatively speaking. Maybe they were just done playing, or had a friend they wanted to play with; so it goes.

TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 16, 2024

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

LuiCypher posted:

Oh they kill things alright.

Your teammates.

Don't forget the civilians :patriot:

Stanley Goodspeed
Dec 26, 2005
What, the feet thing?



Little Ampton posted:

I couldn't get past the first obstacle in the tutorial, and after comparing footage with a friend it turned out this barbed wire spawned too low for me to go under, even going prone didn't work lol



This poo poo happened to me too and I was so confused about why it wouldn't let me progress. Closed out and tried again later and it was fine.

Based on other fuckiness, it seems the game sometimes isn't sure where the ground is or what direction is up, causing extraction shuttles and turrets and probably other stuff to fall through the floor or orient weirdly.

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




Lots of crashes this evening in PS5

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

magiccarpet posted:

Lots of crashes this evening in PS5

Same on PC. Haven't had any since launch weekend and now it's pretty frequent. Also failing to login and black screen at launch which are both new for me.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Long weekend, probably got a lot more traffic starting up. For sure I'm going to be playing a lot this weekend, starting tonight.

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



victrix posted:

iirc the game director said the intent is all the primaries have some kind of niche and are roughly similar in power, I don't think any of them are intended to be wildly better than the others (ymmv of course), depending on the opponent type/mission type/your loadout

Yeah except for the 225 which is just twice as good as every other gun I think this is accurate.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


LuiCypher posted:

Doesn't really help, they do it when we get back to the ship. The public community in this game is really wearing me down...

Wait, so they're kicking you when the stats screen/fireworks is loading and you don't get any completion for the mission you just finished?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

They're flexing their quick load times at you

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

PC version is showing 220,000+ people playing right now, so that probably has something to do with it (server instability, crashing).

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

I said come in! posted:

PC version is showing 220,000+ people playing right now, so that probably has something to do with it (server instability, crashing).

God drat

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



so a mild success then

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Stop playing my game you animals.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


DeadFatDuckFat posted:

Wait, so they're kicking you when the stats screen/fireworks is loading and you don't get any completion for the mission you just finished?

I think they're getting kicked before the operation can be finished. So they'll join an operation do the first mission get back to the destroyer get rewards for that mission, but then get booted so they can't actually complete the operation thus getting the bonus rewards

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



ok holy gently caress, did a hard defend the scientists mission and we were overrun with so many loving robots its insane, we had about 8 walkers, uncountable normal troops, a ton of the shield guys, 3-4 of the big huge hulk walker guys. 0 chance we could win it

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I said come in! posted:

PC version is showing 220,000+ people playing right now, so that probably has something to do with it (server instability, crashing).
:stare: jesus, this lit up

threelemmings
Dec 4, 2007
A jellyfish!

CainFortea posted:

I think they're getting kicked before the operation can be finished. So they'll join an operation do the first mission get back to the destroyer get rewards for that mission, but then get booted so they can't actually complete the operation thus getting the bonus rewards

Yeah I think that was the confusion, because they were taking it really hard like its malicious. If someone's friend logs on or something I get it, it's not like some TK or denial of mission rewards to be spiteful.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Yeah but it can still be frustrating to always be the bridesmaid and never the bride. I was just just making your own lobby that way the puppies can't kick you. Or get with whatever that goon discord is going for this game

Baiard
Nov 7, 2011

it's good for you
Getting kicked after completing a mission but before the full 3 are done seems completely fine to me. If they want to make room to play with a friend, why should they be obligated to do the entire 3 missions with you? That's like an hour of game time.

Kicking you for spurious reasons during a mission is obviously unacceptable and should require a vote or limitations based on time spent in mission.

Sonel
Sep 14, 2007
Lipstick Apathy

blahz posted:

So I gave this a try and I think this is the different sub-mission. I believe you're thinking of the terminate broadcast one.

This is the mission with the tough building. The destroy rogue research station. For some reason the one building you need to destroy seems to be affected by the default orbital strike or a hellbomb. Maybe my 500kg was misplaced, but it didn't seem to do anything. If there's a way to destroy this with the autocannon or others, that would be amazing for long range. -



I think this building can bug out at times, had a game where we tried strategems and a hellbomb but it stayed standing. Different game a single hellbomb took it out.

Baiard
Nov 7, 2011

it's good for you
Speaking of poor camaraderie, I got my first 3 super samples from a mission and told the team about it. 10m later and we're boarding evac while under duress like normal, except one of the guys calls in a cluster bomb on the VTOL as we're boarding. I managed to get on it because I was first, but everybody else got annihilated and wiped out 40 other samples.

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



seriously the escort has to be bugged right? jesus

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
I feel like this game is getting less and less stable. Keep having new and unique issues basically every time I play.

Also, those new defend and evacuate missions on the bot planets are absolutely brutal. I lost one in challenging, I haven't lost a match in that diff in so long. I did win a couple later but the scaling and spawns are all wrong on those, massive difficulty spike compared to most missions.

sure okay posted:

Ive noticed that if I railgun a Chargers leg it takes about 7 shots with my autoshotty into that same leg to drop them, which is less that but almost a full clip. I basically just empty the clip.

If I empty that same clip into his butt it doesnt do nearly as much damage. It basically takes about 3.5 clips, which makes no sense

It makes perfect sense, I'd much rather be shot in the butt than in the leg

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

What is actually the use case for the laser support weapon? It seems OK against trash enemies, but no better than the machine gun. And it seems completely useless against anything tougher or more durable.

It's pretty good against anything lower than a charger, and it never runs out of ammo. So yeah, it's pretty good for trash mobs and at lower difficulties.

Turk posted:

I had a guy who was blowing his nose constantly while eating chips.

Today I heard a kid talking to his dad about his day while the dad just goes hmm. Yeah. Okay. Kinda sad

The one I hate the worst though is when you can hear all the sounds in their game reflected back multiple times. All the gunshots, callouts, etc. with reverb attached. Not fun.

Some people are so dumb. Like I play without talking a lot, but if I am and I have to do something else or talk to someone else I just switch the headset mute on so they don't have to hear it.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

the secret with the new protect scientists mission appears to be everyone just hitting the drat button
you can finish it in 3 minutes if everyone hits the drat button instead of me running in circles trying to hit all the buttons

I think there are only two buttons? And yeah the strat is to station a player at each one and then two others who try and take out dropship enemies. If you only do one door it'll take way longer since there's essentially a cooldown.

Also, don't worry at all about the scientists, it's a waste of time just keep pressing the button. There's plenty of the buggers

Also, people are dropping outside of the scientist area which makes no sense, better to drop right into it

Play fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Feb 16, 2024

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
I am pretty sure the difficulty for the escorts and defense missions is backwards, defense missions are a snoozefest with long lulls between waves so you just wait around until you hit the kill count, escorts are a none-stop murderfest with never less then 100 elite enemies at any one time and if you aren't escorting asap you will be overwhelmed fast.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Every map Ive escorted on has had three buttons so far

Jossar
Apr 2, 2018

Current status: Angry about subs :argh:
I'm half convinced this is supposed to be a plot point which makes it seem hopeless for the next two days and then things turn around.

The other half, though, is reminded of how hard bot missions are generally and thinks that maybe this is overtuned juuuust a little bit.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

GlyphGryph posted:

Every map Ive escorted on has had three buttons so far

Ah word, I think the original escorts only had two which is why I thought that.

Then the best strat is to bring sentries and airstrikes, drop directly into the facility, get on all three buttons and keep pressing them as soon as you can. With three buttons it would only take three presses each to meet the req.

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?


"Oh, get into the hellpod THEN drop self to planet"

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Crossing my fingers that this game isn't flash in the pan. Would love to see a big starship troopers game live online.

Probably helped a lot by just being 4 players squads installed of 60 player matches, so here's hoping they don't get weird amount monetization or gently caress up the servers

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Def something up with the Defense civ evac mission vs bots. Unless theres some way to cheese it then idk if I can make it past 4 there. Will try the button spam.

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

I am pretty sure the difficulty for the escorts and defense missions is backwards, defense missions are a snoozefest with long lulls between waves so you just wait around until you hit the kill count, escorts are a none-stop murderfest with never less then 100 elite enemies at any one time and if you aren't escorting asap you will be overwhelmed fast.

The bot pathfinding on defense is really bad too, had many that just bunch up in an area and stand.

Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Feb 16, 2024

Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!

Jossar posted:

I'm half convinced this is supposed to be a plot point which makes it seem hopeless for the next two days and then things turn around.

The other half, though, is reminded of how hard bot missions are generally and thinks that maybe this is overtuned juuuust a little bit.

just a derail but lol at that av I remember when my enterprise got torpedoed off Guadalcanal, but we won anyway heh.

I'm enjoing the change in focus to the bots, even if I hate fighting them.

Jossar
Apr 2, 2018

Current status: Angry about subs :argh:

Horsebanger posted:

just a derail but lol at that av I remember when my enterprise got torpedoed off Guadalcanal, but we won anyway heh.

I'm enjoing the change in focus to the bots, even if I hate fighting them.

Goes down in so many games, alas.

Maybe if we name an Automaton Fleet Invasion Ship the Enterprise, it too will get torp'd.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.





Can love bloom on the battlefield? (Like half a second off for the perfect shot)

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

queeb posted:

seriously the escort has to be bugged right? jesus

Just did a challenging with two players and it was the hairiest mission I've ever been on lol

Orv
May 4, 2011
For what it's worth when I was doing escort missions before last nights patch they were completely sane and the patch notes only specified changes to defense missions so I'm assuming it's some studio driven thing.

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
They're going to drop you a mech

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