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So skimming the thread has made me want to dive into the extended Universe again, as I started down a rabbit hole of plot summaries for the Rage War series. Seems kinda dumb but could be fun. Any good? Specifically I'm interested in the anthology "bug hunt" as it seems to contain lots of random references /world building ( my prized alien possession is my original print Technical Manual, so that's my jam). Haven't read any Alien /Pred stuff since around when SD Perry joined her dad. No particular reason, just the last ones I remember reading. Edit also took me a while to realize this was the same post I lurked in from the other subforum, I just thought we had two separate places for pedantic arguments about WY omnipotence 😂
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Did anyone here ever read Alien Phalanx? The one where Aliens land on a colony that regressed to a medieval society? It's really good.
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Feb 10, 2024 16:29
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McGann posted:Seems kinda dumb but could be fun. Any good? Specifically I'm interested in the anthology "bug hunt" as it seems to contain lots of random references /world building ( my prized alien possession is my original print Technical Manual, so that's my jam). If that's your jam, buy the Free League books. They're concentrated worldbuilding with some cool, well-written stories in the campaigns to boot. They're really really good.
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Feb 10, 2024 16:30
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McGann posted:So skimming the thread has made me want to dive into the extended Universe again, as I started down a rabbit hole of plot summaries for the Rage War series. As I recall, Bug Hunt had maybe three stories I enjoyed and the rest of them I thought ranged from average to pretty bad. If you can find a copy for really cheap, it’s alright. I see it’s $8.99 on kindle right now, which is not worth what I got out of it personally. On a different note, it’s not an anthology, but I can definitely recommend Aliens: The Cold Forge It’s the best Aliens novel I’ve ever read, and I think several people who post in this thread have also read it.
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Feb 10, 2024 19:34
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MrMojok posted:On a different note, it’s not an anthology, but I can definitely recommend Aliens: The Cold Forge Bug Hunt was okaaaaay, but Cold Forge is a good novel that happens to have xenomorphs in it.
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Feb 10, 2024 19:42
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Cold Forge is pretty dang good
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Just watched Legend (original US cut) and having that film as context makes Covenant seem a little more perverse. 
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Feb 11, 2024 17:54
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Cold Forge it is. Thanks for the recommendations, all - now if only hoopla carried the ebook. They do have the audiobook available for check out, but I'll keep hunting. I do wonder if the Earth war books are worth revisiting? I read them when I was a teenager, and vaguely recall the NotHicks/NotNewt characters, Ripley showing up, and royal jelly being used as a designer drug, and the requisite MIC attempt To use xenos. Which sounds silly as hell in retrospect but I recall being entertained
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Feb 12, 2024 15:52
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Schwarzwald posted:Just watched Legend (original US cut) and having that film as context makes Covenant seem a little more perverse. Haven’t seen legend since I was a kid, what do you mean
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Feb 12, 2024 17:46
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Everything in Legend is coated with shiny lube.
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Feb 12, 2024 17:58
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McGann posted:Cold Forge it is. Thanks for the recommendations, all - now if only hoopla carried the ebook. They do have the audiobook available for check out, but I'll keep hunting. The Earth War saga is indeed entertaining. I don’t know if you can find them for your particular e-reader, but you can normally find the paperbacks at a used bookstore for just a couple bucks apiece.
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Feb 12, 2024 18:09
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DeimosRising posted:Haven’t seen legend since I was a kid, what do you mean The big one is how the prelapsarian forest paradise of Legend looks quite similar to the planet David ended up stranded on in Covenant. Halloween Jack posted:Everything in Legend is coated with shiny lube. Not everything. Some were only coated in glitter.
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Edit: wrong thread. Prometheus is always an entertaining watch, but if you try to make the science fit the film you’ll come up disappointed on both fronts.
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Feb 13, 2024 04:34
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 but I am pretty sure the full 11 hour audiobook of cold forge is on YouTube. search the title and audiobook. At least a few years ago it was when I crazy sick with COVID it was and I listened to it while in a half asleep fever haze.
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Feb 13, 2024 08:46
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Schwarzwald posted:The big one is how the prelapsarian forest paradise of Legend looks quite similar to the planet David ended up stranded on in Covenant.
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Blood Boils posted:I think Scott and co stated they were the same universe once or twice, off handedly not like, strictly. Animals are pretty much extinct in Blade Runner. So is Jonesy a real cat? Or a synthetic? 
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Feb 13, 2024 20:08
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Cessna posted:Animals are pretty much extinct in Blade Runner. Jones is absolutely a real boy. 
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Feb 13, 2024 20:13
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Xenomrph posted:Jones is absolutely a real boy. Not that being a synthetic disqualifies you from being a good boy
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Feb 13, 2024 21:12
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Cessna posted:Animals are pretty much extinct in Blade Runner. Nothing we ever build will be as malicious as the xenomorph, and when it saw Jonesy there was a real “game recognizes game” moment. Jonesy is real, but (as an orange cat) had access to their one collective brain cell for FAR longer than any have before.
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Feb 14, 2024 14:25
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Xenomrph posted:Jones is absolutely a real boy. How does a freighter crew afford a real cat in the Blade Runner 'verse?
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Feb 14, 2024 16:23
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Cessna posted:How does a freighter crew afford a real cat in the Blade Runner 'verse? Fun fact: Jones legit is Ripley’s cat specifically - on her bridge terminal, you can spot a photo of Jones as a kitten. 
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Feb 14, 2024 16:44
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Like merchant ships on the sea, every deep space hauler has a cat on board to catch mice. Space mice. Ripley just loves Jonesy the most, which is why she has the picture up. This is my headcanon because I want more cats in this franchise which has sorely been lacking them since the 80s
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Feb 14, 2024 17:04
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The photo of Kitten Jones is just a hint that Ripley is synthetic
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Feb 14, 2024 18:18
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Xenomrph posted:Fun fact: Jones legit is Ripley’s cat specifically - on her bridge terminal, you can spot a photo of Jones as a kitten. I've watched the movie hundreds of times but never noticed that. Thanks!
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Feb 14, 2024 18:32
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MO-TH-UR wasn't malicious or under any kind of company directive, she was just malfunctioning because Jones kept pissing all over the consol in the yellow light room.
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Feb 14, 2024 22:21
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banned from Starbucks posted:MO-TH-UR wasn't malicious or under any kind of company directive, she was just malfunctioning because Jones kept pissing all over the consol in the yellow light room. Which he did on the explicit orders of Jim! 
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Feb 15, 2024 09:35
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Xenomrph posted:Ripley was independently wealthy and just worked the job because she loves spaceships. Ripley, keeping a photo of the cat she brought with her on her terminal, whilst having no signs of the daughter she left behind.
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Feb 16, 2024 12:07
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PriorMarcus posted:Ripley, keeping a photo of the cat she brought with her on her terminal, whilst having no signs of the daughter she left behind. Why do bash “dead-beat”
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Feb 16, 2024 12:13
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Here lies Ripley's daughter, she never scored.
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Feb 16, 2024 12:24
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PriorMarcus posted:Ripley, keeping a photo of the cat she brought with her on her terminal, whilst having no signs of the daughter she left behind. I’d have to do some digging to confirm this, but I’m not sure that the idea that Ripley had a daughter was part of her backstory when ‘Alien’ was being made, Cameron might have created that for the sequel.
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Feb 16, 2024 13:18
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Xenomrph posted:I’d have to do some digging to confirm this, but I’m not sure that the idea that Ripley had a daughter was part of her backstory when ‘Alien’ was being made, Cameron might have created that for the sequel. That feels right. The parts in the script were all famously gender neutral. I don’t know what reason someone would have had to add that detail to her backstory in Alien since it never comes up in the movie.
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david_a posted:That feels right. The parts in the script were all famously gender neutral. I don’t know what reason someone would have had to add that detail to her backstory in Alien since it never comes up in the movie. It might have been something that got added by Ridley Scott as part of character backstories after casting had happened, but again I’d have to do some digging to fact-check it.
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Xenomrph posted:I’d have to do some digging to confirm this, but I’m not sure that the idea that Ripley had a daughter was part of her backstory when ‘Alien’ was being made, Cameron might have created that for the sequel. I assumed this was the case, I was just having some fun with the disparity. If anyone feels like it they should release a fan cut that's exactly the same film except an image of Amanda from Alien Isolation has been added to the console in that shot.
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PriorMarcus posted:Ripley, keeping a photo of the cat she brought with her on her terminal, whilst having no signs of the daughter she left behind. Let's not get ahead of ourselves; maybe her daughter is a cat?
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Schwarzwald posted:Let's not get ahead of ourselves; maybe her daughter is a cat? I think the more important question is, were we in Ripley’s shoes, would we have gone back to save Jones? I would have died for that cat. Even if the Alien was a threat to him (it wasn’t) or afraid of him (it was), I absolutely would have put myself between Jones and the Alien in order to make sure Jonesy lived. For more on this topic, see the following book: Jonesy: Nine Lives on the Nostromo https://a.co/d/5uskh3r
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Feb 17, 2024 02:59
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david_a posted:That feels right. The parts in the script were all famously gender neutral. I don’t know what reason someone would have had to add that detail to her backstory in Alien since it never comes up in the movie. Men, famously not able to have daughters? e: but yeah, Alien is not about Family so it's just an irrelevant detail that has no reason to come up.
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I bought the premade adventures for the Alien RPG. There is apparently a race of like black goo infected humans called the evolved trying to destroy humanity.
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Covok posted:I bought the premade adventures for the Alien RPG. There is apparently a race of like black goo infected humans called the evolved trying to destroy humanity. I wish them all the luck in the worlds.
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Feb 18, 2024 00:31
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Covok posted:I bought the premade adventures for the Alien RPG. There is apparently a race of like black goo infected humans called the evolved trying to destroy humanity. See, this is why even the most die-hard EU consumers should be celebrating the Ridley Scott prequels: there's new toys in the toybox.
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Covok posted:I bought the premade adventures for the Alien RPG. There is apparently a race of like black goo infected humans called the evolved trying to destroy humanity. I’d have to look it up, but that might be an adaptation of an idea from the 90s comics where there were Royal Jelly infected humans trying to destroy humanity but I don’t know if they called themselves “the evolved” off the top of my head.
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