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TheDisreputableDog posted:I refuse to believe it’s normal or ethical to get reimbursed for business expenses, in cash, from your boss, who you’re loving. It is absolutely normal to continue getting paid while you're loving your boss. If it wasn't there would be a whole lot less boss loving. Hell, it would be unethical and illegal for your boss to not continue paying you.
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Skex posted:As long as you can find a lawyer willing to cast correct spells the judges have to entertain the bullshit. why is there a whole lawyer subclass about using swords
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Tatsuta Age posted:It's so cool that Fox News is just airing the testimony straight up, not even bothering to cut in for commentary. BREAKING NEWS! Hannity was airing it on his radio show and talking throughout; basically narrating it whenever the This is All a MAGA Witch Hunt thread was getting lost in the weird muck of the whole thing. Actually, it was less narration and more like an annoying friend talking and whispering during a movie.
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H.R. Hufflepuff posted:why is there a whole lawyer subclass about using swords listen Dave not everyone wants to min-max and build for pens all the time, some of us want to roleplay even if it means being non-optimal
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If you don’t mind a random derail, the tabletop role-playing game Troika! has “rapier lawyer” as a no-poo poo character class. Right alongside Rhinoman, Bog Wizard and a Dude with a Bunch of Monkeys ; there are 20-30 classes and they’re all the wildest space steampunk prog-rock album art poo poo. Absolutely rules. The rules are absolute unplayable garbage though. As in, the math is so poorly thought out that the game doesn’t function. So it’s only good as a wild coffee table book or if you want to bolt it to a functioning system (e.g. you can pretty easily make the classes into AW playbooks if you’ve ever done that before).
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Fart Amplifier posted:I didn't say there was anything like that in this case. I was explaining that there's a difference between "don't need to be impartial" and "conflict of interest against the defendant". They do not need to be impartial. That is not what the DQ you posted was about! However, with the prior work she did for his opponent, there could easily be a Conflict Of Interest against him. Which is why she was DQ'd from the case. In short, prosecutors are allowed to not like someone. This is what is meant by "They do not need to be impartial". They aren't allowed to materially benefit in some way outside of the normal job benefits from prosecuting someone. That is what happened in that case.
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Raenir Salazar posted:*Three Arrows kinda makes the argument that this is all in large part to Germany lacking a history of democracy or democratic institutions but at a glance that seemed to me to be patently incorrect, but this is neither here nor there. Germany was an absolute monarchy until the end of WW1. Within 15 years Hitler was the Reichsführer. Their democracy was a teenager when it was strangled. And during that time, elections had instances of being declared null because the elites didn't like the outcome. Don't want to derail this thread but Dan Arrows is a German historian, so you should probably not dismiss his observations on German democracy, especially since Germany itself wasn't even a country until 1871 and so vitally lacked such a concept as "German" democracy before then. Anyway back to handwringing about Georgia.
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Has there been any word from the closed hearings in the classified docs case?
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Tesseraction posted:Germany was an absolute monarchy until the end of WW1. Within 15 years Hitler was the Reichsführer. Their democracy was a teenager when it was strangled. Not quite, it had elections and political parties, people could vote, my contention isn't that Germany was a vibrant representative democracy like the US, but there was a core of democratic institutions that did exist prior to Weimar.
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Feb 16, 2024 13:06
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Raenir Salazar posted:Not quite, it had elections and political parties, people could vote, my contention isn't that Germany was a vibrant representative democracy like the US, but there was a core of democratic institutions that did exist prior to Weimar. I mean I’d agree. I agree with the contention that it was more no one really wanted a democracy outside the socialists and parts of the center. The rest wanted either communist state or some sort of monarchy bullshit. And I don’t think we are there with the US.
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Feb 16, 2024 13:11
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Has there been any word from the closed hearings in the classified docs case? She denied a Trump motion to delay. And they did get through all the Section 4 issues.
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mdemone posted:And they did get through all the Section 4 issues. Did she rule on them, though?
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Place you bets ladies and gentleman, on how big is the fine going to be today. My bet is $460 million.
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Comstar posted:Place you bets ladies and gentleman, on how big is the fine going to be today. $369,999,999.
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Feb 16, 2024 13:54
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$420,000,069
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Did she rule on them, though? Not yet. Edit: even when she does it will be sealed so we can only guess by filings on the docket
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Feb 16, 2024 13:56
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$500 million even. Just to make it easy for everyone to remember. Like do you know how annoying it will be for everyone reporting on it if it's like $472,345,589.56 or something? So much wasted time by everyone double checking they got the number exactly right. Having it be half a billion exactly is just the kind thing to do. I'd like to think the judge is kind.
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Did they announce the ruling would be today or are we just hoping? Edit: guess I missed this: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/verdict-expected-friday-trumps-370-million-civil-fraud-trial-rcna138720 Not official official but a leak. smackfu fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Tesseraction posted:Germany was an absolute monarchy until the end of WW1. Within 15 years Hitler was the Reichsführer. Their democracy was a teenager when it was strangled. The idea that the Weimar fell because Germany was new at democracy is called the Sonderweg (Separate Way) and is actually super hotly debated with the Sonderweg people in the minority these days. It’s a whole thing.
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Xiahou Dun posted:The idea that the Weimar fell because Germany was new at democracy is called the Sonderweg (Separate Way) and is actually super hotly debated with the Sonderweg people in the minority these days. Right, but Germany having an infantile democracy is not patently untrue. Arguments over the merits of the Sonderweg is another matter. On topic I'm thinking $435mn. Something poetic about it being the number of congresscritters.
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Comstar posted:Place you bets ladies and gentleman, on how big is the fine going to be today. A series of sealed and varied values that are reported separately to Donald Trump, John Barron, John Miller, and David Dennison. The trick is figuring out which is the real number among the wildly differing amounts. If he guesses wrong then it goes up $100 million, if he guesses right it goes down $50 million.
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Feb 16, 2024 14:20
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Triple nickel, $555,000,000
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Charlz Guybon posted:Triple nickel, $555,000,000 In Austin we have a local bailout hotline that has commercials that just say "for jail release, call 777-7777" and then repeats that 3 or 4 times depending on the length of the ad. But $7,777,777 won't cut it in this case!
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I'm thinking in the $450 mil ballpark. I'm hoping for plenty more, of course, but I think a modest bump above the asking price is most likely. Of course that's just the cherry, the real prize will be if Engoron smashes a wrecking ball through the Trump Org by barring business in New York state
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My bet is half the asked number, like $200 million. And everyone will be like “he got off easy” despite the fact that is a huge amount of money.
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Engoron announces that Trump is to be fined $1, before smirking and donning his MAGA cap.
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withak posted:Engoron announces that Trump is to be fined $1, before smirking and donning his MAGA cap. And then Trump furiously appeals and fights it out for the next two years
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i don't care how much it is, i just want to know when and how much of it is due to trump's own words
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The defense is trying to claim that prepping a witness now is a crime or something I don't know.
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Vire posted:The defense is trying to claim that prepping a witness now is a crime or something I don't know.  Yeah that line of questioning was weird.
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gregday posted:Who is this guy? He appears to be animorphing
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Tesseraction posted:Right, but Germany having an infantile democracy is not patently untrue. I really think it is. In some ways, late Imperial Germany was a more democratic state than, for example, the UK was at the same time period. Neither of them were absolute monarchies, they both had an established constitutional system, they both had similar nominal split in power between the monarchy and the parliament/reichstag. The big differences were that the actual power available to the monarch was somewhat lower in Britain, as while the king could in principle fire the PM at any time, if he actually did that without a drat good reason it would have resulted in a constitutional crisis that would likely have caused him to lose this power, and everyone knew that so he didn't. But this really shouldn't be overstated, as for all his powers the kaiser lacked the power of the purse and was fully beholden to the reichstag on anything that potentially cost money. And the way they were more democratic than Britain is that the wide franchise came to Britain very late. When the first world war started, every adult German man had the vote and was represented in the Reichstag, while way less than half of the British men did, most of them denied representation by various property requirements. This was well represented in the composition of the respective legislative assemblies, with the UK parliament mainly consisting of the Tories and Liberals, with 7% of the seats held by Labour, while in the Reichstag the SPD was the largest party at 28%. The biggest difference between the countries was that of image. The UK was proud of it's liberal, representational heritage, while everyone conveniently ignored that it was very much a government of the small rich minority for the small rich minority. For the Germans, it was important to represent themselves as a powerful, conservative monarchy, while everyone conveniently ignored that the monarch hardly had the power to wipe his own rear end if he couldn't get the reichstag to sign off on it. It's notable that pre-war Germany was also significantly more democratic than Weimar Germany was. The kind of authoritarian rule by decree that was repeatedly used during the Weimar period would have been unthinkable before the war. It's not that the German people were unfamiliar with democratic institutions; it's that the institutions were eroded away and people lost confidence in them during and immediately after the war. (In 1918, you could argue that Germany was neither a monarchy nor democratic, but instead a military dictatorship.) Post-war the moderate center of the German political field was hollowed out because they were (and not entirely wrongly) held as the culprits of the disastrous war and all the loss caused by it.
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gregday posted:Who is this guy? 
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gregday posted:Who is this guy? 
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gregday posted:Who is this guy? Sepiroth really let himself go
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gregday posted:Who is this guy? "Against the power of Mordor there can be no victory. We must join with him, Gandalf. We must join with Sauron."
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calling wade's divorce lawyer to testify about his attorney client communications was a bold strategy
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Ms Adequate posted:I'm thinking in the $450 mil ballpark. I'm hoping for plenty more, of course, but I think a modest bump above the asking price is most likely. I'm betting half a billion dollars and immediate handing over to a receiver for dissolution of Trump Org. They played too cute with lots of things and really pissed off the judge. Having threats against him and his staff isn't going to go unpunished. I would also expect to see the words 'flagrant' and 'egregious' peppered all through the document.
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