The US will lose WW3

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sullat: Jan 9, 2012

mawarannahr posted:

100% there have been multiple programs proposed in the last ~~decade~~ year to try to stir up a drug problem in China "to avenge the scourge of fentanyl."

Yeah it was called COVID

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zetamind2000: Nov 6, 2007; ~~I'm an alien.~~

mawarannahr posted:

Larson will win WW3

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CN CREW-VESSEL: Feb 1, 2024; 敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdeaB1Sdvbw

# ? Feb 16, 2024 00:42

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

atelier morgan posted:

makes perfect sense: the marines are testing drones the cia developed

Is this gonna be like that farcical poo poo they did during GWOT where guys will be DOD personnel and then change over to JSOC/CIA while in mid air once they cross in Pakistan, and then change back over they're back over Afghanistan?

# ? Feb 16, 2024 01:13

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

hey babe wake up

new Sy Hersh article about those two SEALs lost at sea - and the third survivor

quote:

THE SEALS AND THE DHOW
What really happened in the Gulf of Aden
Seymour Hersh
Feb 15

This is a painful story for the families of three Navy SEALs. Two of the SEALs were lost at sea and a third was critically injured on a mission on January 11 in the Gulf of Aden between Yemen and Somalia. It was a mission that never should have been ordered, and when everything went wrong, it was covered up with a series of lies.

Why report a story about two deaths and an injury when there is a president who has put America indirectly into wars in Ukraine, Israel, Yemen, and elsewhere in the Middle East? I have learned in six decades of chasing down hidden stories that it is delving into the little lies that reveals much about the bigger lies. So it has been in the past month with the story of the dead and injured SEALs.

Their target was a wooden smuggling vessel, operated by Somalis, that was suspected of delivering modern ballistic missiles or missile parts to America’s new enemy: the Houthis of Yemen. Somalis have been smuggling goods through the Red Sea and Indian Ocean in their wooden sailing vessels, known as dhows, since biblical times. Few have motors or any means of electronic communication, and the larger dhows, like the one targeted by the SEALs, often serve as living quarters for the smugglers’ families.

The SEALs were assigned to a ship named the Lewis B. Puller, after a fabled combat general, the most decorated marine of all time, who fought in World War II against the Japanese, as well as in Haiti, in Central America, and in the Korean War. The ship, modeled on an oil tanker, is what the Navy calls an Expeditionary Mobile Base, which means that it is capable, with its landing decks, of supporting a vast number of air and sea military activities from all the services, including those of the Navy SEALs. The Puller was commissioned in 2017 in a port in Bahrain and was not much in the news until it became known that the failed SEAL mission took place.

On January 13, the New York Times, citing two current and two former Pentagon officials, published the first account of the two deaths, which were said to have taken place while the SEALs were attempting to board a dhow at night.

The sea was rough, and one SEAL slipped off the boarding ladder. The initial report claimed that a second SEAL jumped into the water in an effort to save his colleague and both drowned. It was not clear whether he was also on the ladder or jumped from the inflatable speedboat known as a RHIB, for rigid hulled inflatable boat, that the SEALs used to approach the ship. A January 22 Times article about the incident, by Dave Philipps, known for his excellent sources in the special operations community, revealed that a third SEAL attempted to climb the ladder to board the dhow. He fell during the attempted boarding and struck the speedboat. He was rescued and today remains in critical condition.

Philipps quoted a former SEAL senior chief explaining that he and his retired colleagues were convinced the story, as told by administration officials, “doesn’t make sense. Something else must have gone wrong.”

There were questions at the time about President’s Biden decision in early January to expand the American war portfolio. He has taken on the Houthis, who had survived a seven-year war with the Saudi air force, supported by American bombs and targeting intelligence. That war ended with what amounted to a Saudi surrender. The American attacks, still being supported by British air power, are in their second month, and the world’s major shipping companies are still choosing not to chance a ten-day shortcut by sailing from Europe via the Suez Canal into the Red Sea. The Houthi threat is still there, pending an Israeli decision to cease its onslaught in the Gaza Strip. Ironically, or tragically, Biden is now said to be telling the Israelis that a ceasefire is needed. The world is coming to its own judgment about Biden, who is now seeking a second term.

The Somali dhow offered the White House a chance to justify its new offensive. It had been tracked by American intelligence since leaving Somalia because it was believed to be carrying ballistic missile parts needed by the Houthis in their ongoing campaign against Western shipping; The basis for that intelligence, which proved to be wrong, has not been made known.

Back to the Lewis B. Puller. The more than a dozen senior officers from all services assigned to the ship’s command center were gung-ho to send the hot-shot SEAL team to intercept the dhow, compel the boat to stand to, and board it to find ballistic missiles or parts of weapons that were coming to the Houthis from Iran, known to American intelligence as a longtime supporter and supplier of weaponry to Yemen. But there was a serious problem. The issue is what is known in the Navy as the Sea State Code, which is based on terminology used in oceanography to describe the general conditions of the ocean’s surface, as determined by three key factors: wind, waves, and swell.

There are ten categories of sea state, and SEALs can operate with ease and safety up to sea state 3. One experienced retired senior American Navy officer told me that even four- and five-foot waves can sometimes create difficulties for a Navy tanker attempting to refuel an aircraft carrier, but it can be done with skilled maneuvering. No ship loaded with high-octane fighter fuel wants to crash into the side of a carrier.

When the seas get higher, to level 4 or 5, the waves and stronger current make boarding a targeted vessel, even a wooden dhow, an extremely dangerous prospect, in part because of the difficulty in handling steel ladders, known as caving ladders, that are standard SEAL boarding gear. The steps are lightweight aluminum tubes linked by equally lightweight steel cables.

What is hard to do at sea state 3 is deadly dangerous at sea state 4 or 5, a retired Navy officer, with years of experience in special operations, told me. “The waves are going up and down eight feet and more and you do not board a ship in heavy sea,” he said. He added that Navy captains of combat ships finishing a long deployment understand that crews due for shore leave are not permitted to leave the ship in such churning waters.

The retired officer said that when the officer on the Puller who was in charge of all special operation missions, an Army colonel, told “the SEAL team leader to ‘saddle up,’ the team leader told him to look outside the window.” His message was that “it was dark, and the sea was too rough. And it was beyond the capabilities of his team.” The retired officer added: “It was an argument between the on the scene commander and a guy in charge of the SEALs.”

The SEAL team leader said no. But he was ordered to carry out the mission, despite the obvious weather issues, and he did so.

The questions that were not asked, the retired officer said, were these: “Do we know if the dhow is carrying a ballistic missile or a box full of missile parts?” No. “Can you get a key to a launch site?” No. “Or a map of all the Houthi launch sites?” No. “Do Somali smugglers know the difference between a case of Johnny Walker Red and one of Johnny Walter Black?” Yes.

The decision to ignore the concerns of the SEAL commander has been seen by the angered SEAL community in America as “beyond rational planning” and “a disaster waiting to happen.” I learned that one high-ranking member of the community, now retired, wrote a private letter to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, asking that the officer who overruled the SEAL commander be court-martialed for dereliction of duty as the buck-stops-here boss of the operation. “It will never happen,” the former officer told me. “Dead SEALs will go down in Navy annals as heroes, not victims.” His point was that the Navy would never acknowledge that the SEAL team had no business being sent on a search-and-destroy mission in such weather.

As many as nine SEALs may have been aboard the SEALs’ inflatable speedboat—there was a second boat with no SEALs aboard as backup—as it dashed to the dhow that, as ordered, came to a stop and acknowledged that it was to be boarded. Three SEALs began the treacherous climb aboard the vessel. It is not known just what happened—did one fall off the special ladder, made up of steel tubes and chain links? Or did the ladder, swaying to and from in the heavy sea with two SEALs making the climb and a third waiting to do so, suddenly get rocked by a huge wave that flung the men against the side of the dhow, leaving both unconscious or worse, with only to drop into the sea? The badly injured third SEAL survived only because he fell into one of the speedboats.

The SEALs who made the climb into the dhow “did find the treasure,” the retired officer sardonically told me. “There were some obsolete rocket motors, all Iran-made, and some pieces of Styx missiles from the 1950s and ’60s, but no significant missile components among the cargo, other than ancient engines and some random tubes that had been used in missile attacks. There was the usual cargo of liquor, cigarettes, random knock-off clothing, porn cassettes.”

The Somali smugglers were taken prisoner and placed on Navy vessels that came to the scene, and the dhow sent to the bottom.

The two deaths were reported, but over the next few days, the retired officer said, all involved “were playing the game,” keeping as many details as possible under wraps. The Lewis B. Puller was locked down in extreme secrecy. The names of the dead were made public, but not that of the survivor, if he does survive. His is a story that no one in the Navy wants told. I learned that the commanding officer of the Lewis B. Puller, who graduated from the Naval Academy in 2000 and spent his career in Navy aviation—not as a pilot but as a backseat radar intercept officer—may be quietly retired, if the system works as it usually does.

There is a Navy history for such arrogance and deception that dates to the end of the Second World War. The chief of Naval Operations was crusty Admiral Ernest King, a brilliant officer who played a key role in advising President Franklin Delano Roosevelt on military matters. When asked at one point by an aide what to tell the press about the progress of the war against the Japanese fleet, King famously said: “Don’t tell them anything. When it’s over, tell them who won.”

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Livo: Dec 31, 2023

Two much more plausible explanations for the nuclear satellite panic, which I should have thought of beforehand, but my nerd card is failing me, alas.

The Soviet Union had nuclear powered Radar Ocean Reconnaissance Satellites (RORSATs) to monitor for Western naval & carrier movements, so this could be a return to that concept. Alternatively, this new design could interfere with other satellite operations; Russia was already working on a nuclear battery powered satellite for this very purpose in 2019. A nuclear powered satellite would be better suited in the long term to adjust its orbits & jam other satellites than a propellant powered one.

Or I'm waaaaaaaay off and it's a return to the Reagan Strategic Defense Initiative era, which gave us lovely space weapon concepts like Bomb Pumped X-Ray Lasers, Neutral Particle Beams and other wild wacky stuff.

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Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

mawarannahr posted:

Larson will win WW3

"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with cow tools." - Albert Einstein.

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stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Doesn't sound like the Somalians were smuggling actual usable missile parts for Iran. Probably decoys to rub in the faces of the Navy seals.

Now the Somalians are good guys in my book. Are they Shia?

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zetamind2000: Nov 6, 2007; ~~I'm an alien.~~

stephenthinkpad posted:

Doesn't sound like the Somalians were smuggling actual usable missile parts for Iran. Probably decoys to rub in the faces of the Navy seals.

Now the Somalians are good guys in my book. Are they Shia?

the majority's sunni

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Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

# ? Feb 16, 2024 04:06

mark immune: Dec 14, 2019; put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Mola Yam posted:

"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with cow tools." - Albert Einstein.

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Officer Sandvich: Feb 14, 2010

Hubbert posted:

The retired officer said that when the officer on the Puller who was in charge of all special operation missions, an Army colonel, told �the SEAL team leader to �saddle up,� the team leader told him to look outside the window.� His message was that �it was dark, and the sea was too rough. And it was beyond the capabilities of his team.� The retired officer added: �It was an argument between the on the scene commander and a guy in charge of the SEALs.�

The SEAL team leader said no. But he was ordered to carry out the mission, despite the obvious weather issues, and he did so.

If I was in the navy and some army guy was bossing me around I would tell him to gently caress off but I'm definitely not officer material

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DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Officer Sandvich posted:

If I was in the navy and some army guy was bossing me around I would tell him to gently caress off but I'm definitely not officer material

The correct response would be to tell the army guy who doesn't understand water "Come with me to the quarterdeck, I need to explain [something] to you", tossed him overboard, waited about 5 minutes then piped "man overboard, colonel fuckwit leaned over and fell off".

I mean you know, theoretically.

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Jel Shaker: Apr 19, 2003

Hubbert posted:

hey babe wake up

new Sy Hersh article about those two SEALs lost at sea - and the third survivor

there�s nothing cooler in a movie than the scene when the grizzled old Navy seal veteran is told to go to suicide mission by the jumped up, twerp Senior officer and the hero refuses, but the idiot superior goes �that�s an order!� and the hero acquiesces only for a super cool action scene where the hero nearly dies but saves the day

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Z the IVth: Jan 28, 2009; The trouble with your "expendable machines"; Fun Shoe

Jel Shaker posted:

there’s nothing cooler in a movie than the scene when the grizzled old Navy seal veteran is told to go to suicide mission by the jumped up, twerp Senior officer and the hero refuses, but the idiot superior goes “that’s an order!” and the hero acquiesces only for a super cool action scene where the hero nearly dies but saves the day

Or in this case, the hero slips on a ladder, bashes his head and spends the rest of his days in a care home having his bum wiped by a carer on poverty wages.

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Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Care home sounds expensive. How about homeless and drug addicted until the next harsh winter or run-in with the police?

Bonus points if the police officer who kills him is his former brother in arms.

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poisonpill: Nov 8, 2009; The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.

someone needs to make a CoD clone where the biggest threats are braindead officers ordering you directly into friendly fire and/or deadly environments

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Retromancer: Aug 21, 2007; Every time I see Goatse, I think of Maureen. That's the last thing I saw. Before I blacked out. The sight of that man's anus.

poisonpill posted:

someone needs to make a CoD clone where the biggest threats are braindead officers ordering you directly into friendly fire and/or deadly environments

Helldivers 2, while not exactly this, is a lot of this.

It's basically a multiplayer Starship Troopers PVE shooter where Friendly Fire is always on and you are constantly calling in danger close artillery strikes.

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mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

This seems like a bad boat.

https://archive.ph/KUCWo

quote:

The Royal Canadian Navy is trying to fix a series of problems on its new Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships including anchors that aren�t effective, a refueling system that�s too heavy to use, and areas on the vessels that are leaking.
In addition, the Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships (AOPS) can�t perform emergency towing as was required in the original contract and some cranes on the vessels are inoperable, National Defence confirmed to this newspaper.

Structural issues are also hindering the operation of Cyclone helicopters from the ships and the supplier of satellite communications systems on the vessels no longer has the security clearance to provide the navy with parts.
The problems are on top of previous issues with mechanical breakdowns and safety concerns about drinking water on the ships because of lead.
National Defence says repairs and various fixes for the issues are in the works or are being examined.
Taxpayers are spending almost $5 billion on the six ships for the Royal Canadian Navy. The vessels are being constructed by Irving Shipbuilding and a number have already been delivered.
The ships only come with a one-year warranty, National Defence confirmed. That means taxpayers will be on the hook to repair a number of the deficiencies.

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Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

no refunds!!

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Hatebag: Jun 17, 2008

AOPS? more like OOPS!

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DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

mlmp08 posted:

This seems like a bad boat.

https://archive.ph/KUCWo

The shipbuilder owns a province. Look up the Irving family, and all will be revealed.

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mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

See thread title
Joint Statement from the United States, United Kingdom, and Canada on Countering Foreign Information Manipulation - United States Department of State

www.state.gov posted:

Media Note

February 16, 2024

The text of the following statement was released by the Governments of the United States of America, the United Kingdom, and Canada on coordinated efforts to counter foreign state information manipulation.

Begin Text:

The United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada remain deeply concerned about foreign information manipulation and other actions designed to undermine our democracies and human rights globally.

Foreign information manipulation is a national security threat that undermines democratic values, human rights, governmental processes, and political stability. Given the borderless nature of information manipulation, we call on all like-minded countries committed to the rules-based order to work together to identify and counter this threat. Securing the integrity of the global information ecosystem is central to popular confidence in governance institutions and processes, trust in elected leaders, and the preservation of democracy.

The present international system, based on international law and respect for territorial boundaries, is competing with an alternate vision defined by autocratic impunity. This alternate vision deploys foreign malign influence aimed at undermining our safety and security, with disregard for universal human rights and the rule of law.

The time is now for a collective approach to the foreign information manipulation threat that builds a coalition of like-minded countries committed to strengthening resilience and response to information manipulation. We can do this through coordinated, whole of society solutions that work with experts, independent media and multilateral organizations, to address these transnational security threats.

That is why today, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada jointly endorse the�Framework to Counter Foreign State Information Manipulation, which affirms our shared understanding of the threat and offers a holistic view of how to address the foreign information manipulation challenge. It aims to standardize our approach to this problem and build interoperable and complementary systems to resist this threat as technologies continue to emerge and adapt. The Framework complements the high-level international commitments from the�Global Declaration on Information Integrity Online��and reinforces our joint efforts and commitment to protect and promote information integrity.

The United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada intend to collaborate on building partner countries� resilience to foreign information manipulation by advancing the Framework�s Key Action Areas: National Strategies and Policies; Governance Structures and Institutions; Capacity; Civil Society, Independent Media, and Academia; and Multilateral Engagement.

The United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada intend to jointly work on operationalizing relevant Key Action Areas through new and existing multilateral mechanisms, such as the�G7 Rapid Response Mechanism�, and in coordination with other likeminded partners and multilateral organizations.

End Text.

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Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

cspam is now illegal and closes at midnight

# ? Feb 16, 2024 19:29

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

mawarannahr posted:

See thread title
Joint Statement from the United States, United Kingdom, and Canada on Countering Foreign Information Manipulation - United States Department of State

We are witnessing how Russia�s assault on Ukraine continues, and this assault painfully highlights why we need to pay more attention to foreign interference, and in particular to foreign disinformation and information manipulation. This poses a clear threat to our democracy, to our stability, to our security � and we need to address it.
[...]
So Russia is moving towards a complete isolation of its citizens from information coming from the outside world. They are putting them in a bubble, isolating them in order to not allow them to know what is happening.
[...]
Most importantly, we have imposed costs on the perpetrators, including through banning Russia Today and Sputnik from broadcasting in the European Union. Because they are not independent media; they are assets, they are weapons in the Kremlin�s manipulation ecosystem.

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stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

More Anglos bullshit.

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uber_stoat: Jan 21, 2001; Pillbug

only three eyes this time?

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The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

Delta-Wye posted:

We are witnessing how Russia�s assault on Ukraine continues, and this assault painfully highlights why we need to pay more attention to foreign interference, and in particular to foreign disinformation and information manipulation. This poses a clear threat to our democracy, to our stability, to our security � and we need to address it.
[...]
So Russia is moving towards a complete isolation of its citizens from information coming from the outside world. They are putting them in a bubble, isolating them in order to not allow them to know what is happening.
[...]
Most importantly, we have imposed costs on the perpetrators, including through banning Russia Today and Sputnik from broadcasting in the European Union. Because they are not independent media; they are assets, they are weapons in the Kremlin�s manipulation ecosystem.

Your state-funded propaganda: boo
Our state-funded propaganda: yay

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mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

DancingShade posted:

Doubling down got us through the past century soooo

rapproachment and a complete U-turn in relations with the PRC is what saved your rear end, not doubling down

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DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

mawarannahr posted:

See thread title
Joint Statement from the United States, United Kingdom, and Canada on Countering Foreign Information Manipulation - United States Department of State

National Strategies and Policies:

Effectively addressing foreign state information manipulation requires countries to go beyond �monitor-and-report� approaches, to include developing and implementing strategies to counter this threat.
These policies should ensure safeguards for freedom of expression, protection for marginalized groups, transparency in media ownership, and a commitment to protect elections from foreign malign influence.

Governance Structures and Institutions:

Marshaling and administering a national-level approach to countering foreign state information manipulation requires designated governance structures and institutions within governments.
The ability to organize dedicated government institutions to lead and coordinate national efforts, international engagement, and fact-based digital communication on foreign information manipulation is key to this effort.

Human and Technical Capacity:

Effectively countering foreign state information manipulation requires technical means and human capacity to maintain threat awareness.
Building effective capacity includes investing in digital security tools that can detect foreign state information manipulation and ensuring interoperability between government partners working to counter this threat.

Civil Society, Independent Media, and Academia:

Civil society, independent media, and academia can play essential roles in informing and supporting government-led initiatives to counter foreign state information manipulation.
Countering foreign state information manipulation is best done when governments protect and support the role of independent media, promote independent fact checking and media and digital literacy, and welcome public advocacy on the issue.

Multilateral Engagement:

Multilateral organizations that leverage international cooperation to counter and build resilience against foreign state information manipulation are indispensable to alleviating information and capability shortfalls across partner nations.

The Way Forward:

A broad coalition of like-minded partners is key to successfully countering foreign information manipulation, as each country brings different strengths, capacities, and resources to offer.
The United States calls on partner countries committed to promoting open and fact-based information environments, free from foreign information manipulation, to endorse the Key Action Areas included in the Framework and to begin working towards a coordinated approach to this transnational threat.

This will all end in tears

# ? Feb 16, 2024 20:10

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

mawarannahr posted:

See thread title
Joint Statement from the United States, United Kingdom, and Canada on Countering Foreign Information Manipulation - United States Department of State

This is NYT reporting on one misinformation campaign yesterday:

Chinese Influence Campaign Pushes Disunity Before U.S. Election, Study Says

quote:

A Chinese influence campaign that has tried for years to boost Beijing�s interests is now using artificial intelligence and a network of social media accounts to amplify American discontent and division ahead of the U.S. presidential election, according to a new report.

The campaign, known as Spamouflage, hopes to breed disenchantment among voters by maligning the United States as rife with urban decay, homelessness, fentanyl abuse, gun violence and crumbling infrastructure, according to the report, which was published on Thursday by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a nonprofit research organization in London.

An added aim, the report said, is to convince international audiences that the United States is in a state of chaos.

quote:

by maligning the United States as rife with urban decay, homelessness, fentanyl abuse, gun violence and crumbling infrastructure,

lol

# ? Feb 16, 2024 20:18

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

text editor posted:

This is NYT reporting on one misinformation campaign yesterday:

Chinese Influence Campaign Pushes Disunity Before U.S. Election, Study Says

lol

lmao

# ? Feb 16, 2024 20:20

uber_stoat: Jan 21, 2001; Pillbug

Chinese disinfo campaign aims to convince Americans that water is wet, sky is blue.

# ? Feb 16, 2024 20:22

SixteenShells: Sep 30, 2021

You see, in America we don't directly fund our media, we just make sure that media contrary to national interest is marginalized and we reward media that aligns with our interests. It's a very different thing and it means you can ALWAYS trust the media.

# ? Feb 16, 2024 20:46

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

I'm reminded of the line "the problem with Russian disinformation is that it is factual"

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DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

Gen X delenda est

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XSLJsuBoYI

# ? Feb 16, 2024 21:02

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

National Strategies and Policies:

Effectively addressing foreign state information manipulation requires countries to go beyond “monitor-and-report” approaches, to include developing and implementing strategies to counter this threat.
These policies should ensure safeguards for freedom of expression, protection for marginalized groups, transparency in media ownership, and a commitment to protect elections from foreign malign influence.

Governance Structures and Institutions:

Marshaling and administering a national-level approach to countering foreign state information manipulation requires designated governance structures and institutions within governments.
The ability to organize dedicated government institutions to lead and coordinate national efforts, international engagement, and fact-based digital communication on foreign information manipulation is key to this effort.

Human and Technical Capacity:

Effectively countering foreign state information manipulation requires technical means and human capacity to maintain threat awareness.
Building effective capacity includes investing in digital security tools that can detect foreign state information manipulation and ensuring interoperability between government partners working to counter this threat.

Civil Society, Independent Media, and Academia:

Civil society, independent media, and academia can play essential roles in informing and supporting government-led initiatives to counter foreign state information manipulation.
Countering foreign state information manipulation is best done when governments protect and support the role of independent media, promote independent fact checking and media and digital literacy, and welcome public advocacy on the issue.

Multilateral Engagement:

Multilateral organizations that leverage international cooperation to counter and build resilience against foreign state information manipulation are indispensable to alleviating information and capability shortfalls across partner nations.

The Way Forward:

A broad coalition of like-minded partners is key to successfully countering foreign information manipulation, as each country brings different strengths, capacities, and resources to offer.
The United States calls on partner countries committed to promoting open and fact-based information environments, free from foreign information manipulation, to endorse the Key Action Areas included in the Framework and to begin working towards a coordinated approach to this transnational threat.

This will all end in tears

Examples of misinformation in the grim darkness of the 21st century:
- Saying that Ukraine isn't inflicting a 1000:1 kdr against the Ork hordes
- That the Israelis can be defeated on the field of battle.
- Looking at the wrong economic statistics like food prices.
- Disparaging the name of Dark Brandon by saying that he isn't the greatest, smartest, most minority representative of all.
- Voting against the Democrats.

# ? Feb 16, 2024 21:35

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlQQwm7N_mY

# ? Feb 16, 2024 21:50

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Danann posted:

Examples of misinformation in the grim darkness of the 21st century:
- Saying that Ukraine isn't inflicting a 1000:1 kdr against the Ork hordes
- That the Israelis can be defeated on the field of battle.
- Looking at the wrong economic statistics like food prices.
- Disparaging the name of Dark Brandon by saying that he isn't the greatest, smartest, most minority representative of all.
- Voting against the Democrats.

Don't forget the only way to save democracy is to ban opposition parties and not hold elections.

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skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

poisonpill posted:

someone needs to make a CoD clone where the biggest threats are braindead officers ordering you directly into friendly fire and/or deadly environments

*fade in from black with green text scrolling*

[Iraqi Desert, 2003]

[zoom in on A-10]
A-10C Thunderbolt II
Callsign: POPOV 36

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