Vib Rib posted:

This must be a joke

RocketMermaid posted:

the Chaos Guardian can kill you even in creative.

Vib Rib posted:

Finally got the tinker's slimesling in GT:NH and what the hell, it sucks. What happened to the incredible overpowered slimesling I remember?

Vib Rib posted:

GT:NH has gotten down to a slow slog and I'm not even out of LV yet. Feels like 70% of my play time is just spent running between chests plucking out items. Omnifactory putting AE relatively early was more of a godsend than I ever realized, and GT's much more limited power and item distribution is hitting hard. Even with backpacks my inventory feels constantly limited so I'm making frequent trips to the mines and not coming back with as much as I'd like. I know this is mostly my fault -- I know that batch processing is important in GT, and here far more than even Omnifactory it makes sense to make whole stacks of wires, circuits, etc. I know that if I just did more at once instead of tiny bits here and there I'd have to spend way less in the interim, but I keep waiting for that one moment of calm between all the spinning plates where I can deal with the stuff I've been putting off. Hell I haven't looked into cropsticks or even harvestcraft stuff because there's always a coke oven or primitive blast furnace that needs restocking.

Vib Rib posted:

I do wish it was a little more clear on the best ways to get certain early materials. Lithium is an 11% side effect on spudomene or some such, which means I'll need to process over ~100 just to do the quest.
With so, so many recipes in NEI, most of them either reprocessing, recycling, or some weird hosed up method no one would ever use, it feels like I often have to search through pages just to find the one "intended" recipe in a chain. If a quest doesn't explicitly tell me how I'm supposed to get something it's a cointoss if I'll overlook the right way to do it while browsing recipes on my own.
On that point: Where do you get silicon at this point? I guess I have to process silicon dioxide with manganese? I've got quests asking for silicon but nothing pointed me towards where to get it.

NJersey posted:

Can anyone recommend a modpack that is a pretty simple and chill experience? I've been trying a bunch but they don't seem to fit exactly what I'm looking for.

I'd like to just chill, build some cool looking buildings, farms, mining shafts, etc. Have some sort of low tech engineering like maybe just steam or water powered mechanics to make irrigation or canals, extra poo poo to build, and some dungeons and skill progression. A cherry on top would be maybe some town building and npc trading.

A lot of mods I've tried have some variation of these but I'm not trying to grind for hours to get some part for a nuke generator or something crazy. Just want to relax after work and disappear into a little world I can build and fight in.

Maybe there's a mod like this someone is using and can recommend or was thinking of smashing a bunch of mods together to make what I'd like but I wouldn't know where to start.

NJersey posted:

Can anyone recommend a modpack that is a pretty simple and chill experience? I've been trying a bunch but they don't seem to fit exactly what I'm looking for.

I'd like to just chill, build some cool looking buildings, farms, mining shafts, etc. Have some sort of low tech engineering like maybe just steam or water powered mechanics to make irrigation or canals, extra poo poo to build, and some dungeons and skill progression. A cherry on top would be maybe some town building and npc trading.

A lot of mods I've tried have some variation of these but I'm not trying to grind for hours to get some part for a nuke generator or something crazy. Just want to relax after work and disappear into a little world I can build and fight in.

Maybe there's a mod like this someone is using and can recommend or was thinking of smashing a bunch of mods together to make what I'd like but I wouldn't know where to start.

Captain Invictus posted:

I really want to encourage you to switch from Realms to modded online minecraft. like I play using very outdated mods and even then it's incredibly robust, far more than vanilla. Oh The Biomes You'll Go and Biomes o' Plenty both add dozens of biomes each, totaling well over a hundred new biomes that with the requisite Terralith(iirc that's the required core mod for them) create immense, sprawling environments to explore. plus, with things like Yung's improved constructs, it spawns much more elaborate versions of the existing Ocean Monuments, Desert/Jungle/etc Temples, and the like. And that's only scratching the surface. If you want, I can provide my complete modlist(and even make a rar file of it all for you to cut down on getting it all), thanks to the extremely easy to use Prismlauncher, it's incredibly easy to select and update mods and keep a particular build of MC cohesive, it does a ton of the difficult work for you.

I don't even use the technical mods that are for building nuclear reactors or having to whet stones to create stone tools like Terrafirmacraft, all the mods I use are only for enhancing basic Survival mode and exploration, for creating more variety in the core gameplay loop of "wander, discover, loot, build". Like, I have been playing in the same Minecraft World for well over a year now, I've not felt the need or urge to start a new one at all. It's still the game I boot up almost daily as my relaxation game, and the mods make it so, so much better, which Bedrock MC just cannot compare to. Having the ability to craft backpacks that are modular and upgradeable is so unbelievably useful, especially with these mods that increase the total number of block variety to multiple thousands of types.

some screenshots(ones with shaders on aren't mine, the rest are):


I built a sandstone temple to protect the exposed nether portal I appeared in in the middle of a ruby crystal nether biome. the ruby blocks emit light, so can be collected in large amounts to act as bootleg Glowstone in a pinch.


do you like flower variety? because OTBYG and BoP add hundreds of new flower varieties. I have a central village I have fortified and turned into my main beekeeping village and flower town, where I bring all the new varieties of flowers to to expand the flower field there for the bees.


pumpkin patches are a biome, with huge pumpkins!


an unbelievably massive mountainous Dark Forest biome gave way to an even larger cavern beneath it via a massive gorge that cuts through it, somewhat hidden by all the giant mushrooms and dark oaks. it's this huge and the floor doesn't even start getting to Deepslate yet. I spent literally over a week mapping it out and illuminating it.


the Sophisticated Backpacks Mod lets you craft initially small backpacks, which can be upgraded and have tons of modular inserts to increase carrying capacity per stack, automatically pick up and sort specific items, and auto-feed you or auto-smelt things. I wander around with a backpack designed specifically to smelt all netherrack, clay, sand and stone into bricks, glass, and smooth stone, and I only need to swing by the nether every few weeks to load back up on lava buckets and loaded lava sponges to keep the fuel in it going for another few weeks.


one of my favorite biomes in Oh The Biomes You'll Go is called Lush Stacks, and it's huge crags and loopy stone eruptions out of the ocean, which make for incredible build sites:


my PC isn't strong enough anymore to be able to handle the pretty shaders mods, sadly. maybe once I upgrade it, but until then, default visuals it is, which don't really bother me.

but yeah, modded minecraft is still going strong and still phenomenal. I don't think I've put more time into anything as I have modded MC.

Captain Invictus posted:

in my opinion, never go into minecraft without some idea of what you want to do. whenever I go in, I think to myself, "what is my goal this time? what do I want to accomplish this session?" whether it be acquiring specific resources for adding on to one of the many villages I've fortified, or harvesting a ton of flowers to stockpile for later usage for dyes, or restocking on important supplies like iron/diamonds/nether bricks, etc, I always go in with a specific idea of what I want to do. sometimes my goal is "okay, look at my Xaero's World Map, and see if I want to flesh out an area that's currently fog of war. or maybe I bought a special map from a traveling merchant months ago that's been sitting in my backpack for ages, and decide it's finally time to trek across literally a dozen miles ingame to find what it takes me to. I do sometimes just go "gently caress it, let's wander in an unexplored direction for a few miles and see what we find" which is also valid, but again, at least when you start, something like "I want to build a safe shelter" or "I want to get iron tools" is a great beginning point.

recent session goals I've had:
- build a single nice house for a villager in one of my villages
- organize a new stockpile in a new village to leave a bunch of stuff from my backpacks in, so I can stop by and pick up things I might need later and to make room
- build a bridge with "support beams" across an 80-block-deep chasm between two mountains
- clear around a new nether portal I created on the nether side and build a safe area around it to keep potential Ghast attacks from turning the portal off, and also make the entire area around the portal look like the Overworld is encroaching into the nether around the portal

stuff like this is the kind of thing that keeps me playing the game. I let my creativity give me an idea and then roll with it.

My current character is in fully enchanted netherite gear and netherite tools all with mending, so I no longer need to worry about that stuff(yet, anyways. I recently found there's even further upgrades in some of the mods I have that require...some crazy poo poo), it's purely for building for me now. there's a potion mod I use that lets you craft Oresight potions to see specific ore blocks through walls, so it makes finding resources a lot less bullshit, but you can only see within a 20ish block radius, so it's not TOO ridiculous.

the thing about Minecraft mods is that there's something for everyone at this point. You want more elaborate cooking? Pam's Harvestcraft and Farmer's Delight have you covered. You want insane technological poo poo that looks almost like a completely different game? Create is your mod. Do you just want to loving put Pokemon in Minecraft? Pixelmon is a thing, I guess.

hell, there was a mod that turned minecraft mobs into anime girls you could date at one point, I believe. just...if someone has an idea, it's probably been made a minecraft mod at some point.

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

[Very helpful tips]

NJersey posted:

Can anyone recommend a modpack that is a pretty simple and chill experience? I've been trying a bunch but they don't seem to fit exactly what I'm looking for.

I'd like to just chill, build some cool looking buildings, farms, mining shafts, etc. Have some sort of low tech engineering like maybe just steam or water powered mechanics to make irrigation or canals, extra poo poo to build, and some dungeons and skill progression. A cherry on top would be maybe some town building and npc trading.

A lot of mods I've tried have some variation of these but I'm not trying to grind for hours to get some part for a nuke generator or something crazy. Just want to relax after work and disappear into a little world I can build and fight in.

Maybe there's a mod like this someone is using and can recommend or was thinking of smashing a bunch of mods together to make what I'd like but I wouldn't know where to start.

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

what's your tolerance for versions? like, are you happy to go back to 1.7?

Regrowth is a chill farming modpack where you have to turn a dessicated wasteland lush again. there's no worldgen ores, so you have to grow everything - lots of botania and magical crops, with a bit of mariculture under-the-sea stuff to start.

it's more magic/tech-disguised-as-magic than it is lowtech. it also has no dungeons, iirc

vaguely recall forums goon Black Pants (i think?) put together a terrafirmacraft pack which had some limited windmill/power technology at its highest tech level - that was viable to play on Peaceful where your only enemy was your stomach, and that's definitely low-tech and chill. it was terrafirmacraft though so there's a lot of running around looking for materials thousands of tiles from your base, and again, no dungeons.

finally, i remember quite liking Exoria (https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/exoria); this one definitely needs building, as some blocks need to be in sealed rooms to be placed, and it's relatively low-tech, low-automation. you start on an ash planet and need to portal onwards to new and weird biomes to progress.

definitely dungeons involved here, but it's not the usual minecraft green-and-pleasant-land aesthetic, and no villages iirc

Pollyanna posted:

For no good reason whatsoever I spun up a new Vault Hunters world on Sky Vaults and ohhh boy this game loop still isn’t very good is it? Running vaults isn’t very satisfying, the quest line is weirdly paced, there’s no B part to spend non-vault time on, and the vaults themselves are tedious and repetitive. I wish there were custom rules for vault gen, or at least a room size option. Adding a back half system that feeds off of and back into the vault system would also go a ways to making both runs and everything other than runs more enjoyable. I’ve run maybe 10 or so vaults so far and I’m ready to never look at one again.

Zereth posted:

AceClown posted:

I've bounced off it these last few months, for me I enjoy the skinner box dopamine of opening loot crates and finding rare poo poo.

But the mid to late game is suffering from that classic ARPG problem where there is so so much stuff to keep track of and manage it gets to be a real chore. Seals, Focus', Catalysts, Inscriptions, Gems, ALL THE FUCKIN GEMS, Gear, Coins, Souls, Knowledge, Orbs and all the useless junk you get from vault running. It just gets too much tbh.

Also, while not as bad as straight vanilla, it's still vanilla MC combat which sucks absolute balls.

Vib Rib posted:

Vault Hunters has so much potential but there's some incredibly stupid and needlessly punishing mechanics to it, bad design choices they've hardcoded, and the balance is so slow that you seem to be expected to run an utterly ridiculous amount of vaults just to make a little progress.

Pollyanna posted:

Vault Hunters seems like it’s designed to be streamed and recorded, not played. It’s paced so slowly and is so bloated that the only reasonable explanation is that it’s maximum content with minimum effort for the sake of perpetuating long-term youtube series. It’s a deeply unsatisfying game loop otherwise.

Which is a shame, cause I like the core idea of Sky Vaults - instancing small, tightly-scoped challenges as a way to secure resources and outfit your base is way more fun than the hypercraft grind that all skyblocks end up as. It’s just executed poorly. Are there any similar mods that do it all better? I’ll even take suggestions for completely different games.

Vib Rib posted:

As for mapping in the Vaults I'd probably remove corridors entirely, because amusingly they're sort of emblematic of the whole padding problem to begin with.

..btt posted:

The balance in vault hunters can be tuned, to the point that your first vault completion will give you about 20 levels (out of 100 max) and far more resources than you can carry out, even if you focus on a specific thing and bring several pouches. Pretty much all of those resources have some use though. Once you hit level 25(?) you unlock catalysts so you can build custom vaults targetting certain resources, or just a theme that you enjoy.

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Also, if the vaults were any smaller, most of the movement abilities you can get would be utterly useless.

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Vaults are by their nature very fast-paced, though obviously at level 1 you haven't unlocked any of the things that enable you to move, fight and loot chests very quickly.

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The pack is built around giving you a reason to build farms for vanilla resources. But if you don't like that you can turn down the required resources with another in-game setting, or even turn it off entirely. This does remove like half the game loop though so feels a bit weird, much like the Sky Vaults world gen.

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It also makes most of the in-vault resources pointless, since these generally help you scale up your resource generation, alongside big QoL improvements in and out of vaults. These are supposed to provide progression so they feel good when you unlock them. There are several options to essentially delete any items or resources that you don't want, though they require some exploration or investment to set up.

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Obviously if you don't enjoy running the vaults this is not the mod for you, but a lot of the complaints posted in this thread are incorrect. The default settings for experience gain and resource drops are aimed at a fairly long playthrough, I suppose.

..btt posted:

The combat might start out as default minecraft, but you can (and probably should) build a character that never needs to use their default attack. Outside of scavenger vaults or guardian vaults, combat is technically optional anyway.

Pollyanna posted:

The problem is how running vaults feels. Whenever I try to play the modpack, vaults become a matter of double tapping to sprint from one room to the other, keeping an eye out for obvious and easy to reach chests+objectives, traversing the room where necessary to engage with interesting things, repeat. So there's a solid like, 20-30 seconds minimum between the interesting parts of each room, and that gets even longer when POIs are spread out around 47 blocks of height.

That, plus the verticality, plus room size, plus the special room and POI spawn rate, means that the pace of running vaults scales proportionally to traversal speed. (Not to mention loot bloat and inventory management toil, which is its own separate problem.)

Kyrosiris posted:

To be fair, this is less a Vault Hunter issue specifically and more "this is how ARPGs in general play" and Vault Hunters is very transparently an attempt to boltstrap the ARPG formula onto Minecraft.

Vib Rib posted:

The fact you have to unlock basic QoL is a bad sign right off the bat but it really makes it painfully expensive, too.

Vib Rib posted:

Just lol, lmao
I dunno who you're trying to convince, but I actually played the pack so I don't buy it

Pollyanna posted:

The problem is how running vaults feels. Whenever I try to play the modpack, vaults become a matter of double tapping to sprint from one room to the other, keeping an eye out for obvious and easy to reach chests+objectives, traversing the room where necessary to engage with interesting things, repeat. So there's a solid like, 20-30 seconds minimum between the interesting parts of each room, and that gets even longer when POIs are spread out around 47 blocks of height.

Pollyanna posted:

And if the problem is how the design of the mod interacts with the Sky Vaults ruleset, then Sky Vaults is underbaked and needs some revision.

..btt posted:

P. sure Iskall (the mod designer) hates skyblocks, thinks it breaks the mod experience, and only added this due to endless requests.

..btt posted:

Honestly I think it's just not the mod pack for you