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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Tiny Timbs posted:

Cartons of eggs quintupled in price in the last few years and it had nothing to do with conservation

Nor are Americans wrong for being pissed when that happens

Egg prices haven't really gone up that much. About 150% of the cost relative to inflation since 2008.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/egg-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/

Now if you're buying only free range, which has become more in vogue, yeah, those get pricy. About $5-7 around here, as opposed to $3 for mass market eggs.

There was a brief very pronounced spike over a year ago, but egg prices went back down rapidly.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111

E: the bad news is that pathogenic avian influenza isn't going away any time soon, so I would expect we will continue to see periodic spikes when birds are mass killed in response

mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Feb 19, 2024

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Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
Yeah, eggs are only up about 50c/dozen at my store over the last year. It’s not nothing, but it’s not like it’s more than a small increase.

Fresh produce and dairy, however, have seen massive increases.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Don't forget that the egg industry was also recently found to have manipulated the market and artificially driving up the costs.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

bulletsponge13 posted:

Don't forget that the egg industry was also recently found to have manipulated the market and artificially driving up the costs.

Yeah it’s this I’m thinking of when remembering the spike to $12 in my area:

quote:

In a letter calling on the FTC to investigate record prices, Farm Action determined that the avian flu outbreak had only had an “apparently mild impact on the industry”, generally lowering the average size of an egg-laying flock by no more than 6% compared with 2021.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/25/18-a-dozen-how-did-americas-eggs-get-absurdly-expensive

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mayor Pete was involved in fixing Canadian bread prices (or worked for a company that was involved, but really). poo poo’s getting brazen out there

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/18/1232332875/houthi-underwater-vessel-red-sea

The U.S. military says it struck a Houthi underwater vessel in the Red Sea

"It was the first time U.S. forces observed the Iranian-backed rebel group using what the military called an "unmanned underwater vessel" — or UUV — since beginning a spate of attacks in the region on Oct. 23, officials added."

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Pine Cone Jones posted:

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/18/1232332875/houthi-underwater-vessel-red-sea

The U.S. military says it struck a Houthi underwater vessel in the Red Sea

"It was the first time U.S. forces observed the Iranian-backed rebel group using what the military called an "unmanned underwater vessel" — or UUV — since beginning a spate of attacks in the region on Oct. 23, officials added."

So when I read "struck" I think "hit with a ship on accident" not "launched a strike package on."

Also I wonder when those DDGs will have to pull in and reload.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Stultus Maximus posted:

So when I read "struck" I think "hit with a ship on accident" not "launched a strike package on."

Also I wonder when those DDGs will have to pull in and reload.

Probably have ships on the way to rotate in so the others can replenish stocks. Can they reload in Dubai?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Flikken posted:

Probably have ships on the way to rotate in so the others can replenish stocks. Can they reload in Dubai?

Yeah there are definitely other ships to rotate in, just been reading Carney and Gravely a lot over the last couple months.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Who cares? Hobbies shouldn't take precedence over public health and environmental harm.

Piston engines run a vast amount of aviation infrastructure, far beyond just a day trader noodling around in his Cessna. Writing that entire swathe of the industry off is somewhat ignorant.

Look at when diesel fuels went to ultra low sulfur. Beyond lowering the energy content of the fuel several percent, it lowered the natural lubricity of it as well. This meant industries had to make adjustments. I'm not complaining about them; obviously reducing ozone precursors is a public good and industries needing to make minor adjustments is a perfectly acceptable price to pay.

I'm just asking if there are any changes in performance or if it was basically the same output, which was answered.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

GD_American posted:

Piston engines run a vast amount of aviation infrastructure, far beyond just a day trader noodling around in his Cessna. Writing that entire swathe of the industry off is somewhat ignorant.

In California of all places how many bush pilots are there compared to hobbyists?

GD_American posted:

Look at when diesel fuels went to ultra low sulfur. Beyond lowering the energy content of the fuel several percent, it lowered the natural lubricity of it as well. This meant industries had to make adjustments. I'm not complaining about them; obviously reducing ozone precursors is a public good and industries needing to make minor adjustments is a perfectly acceptable price to pay.

We're on the same page. But why would anyone shed tears for people who have been making excess profits because they used to be able to ignore externalities, but now regulations have caught up (and still aren't anywhere stringent enough)? If your business strategy revolved around collecting machine oil and dumping it offshore it's a good thing if new laws run you into bankruptcy, this is basically the same thing.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Feb 19, 2024

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

I hate headline writers. $18 for a dozen eggs?! How could this be?

quote:

On Tuesday on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, one of the most expensive neighborhoods in America, prices remained steep. At Eli’s Market, a gourmet grocery store, a dozen organic eggs cost between $12.99 and $17.99.

In other news, buying a luxury car from the showroom floor in San Francisco found to be expensive as well.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

In California of all places how many bush pilots are there compared to hobbyists?

What kind of planes do you think commercial pilots start their training in?

quote:

But why would anyone shed tears for

I literally was not complaining. I was merely curious what kind of adjustments the aviation industry would have to make, because I'm not in the know on the technical side there.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

In California of all places how many bush pilots are there compared to hobbyists?

probably not as many as there are crop dusters in the central valley

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

GD_American posted:

What kind of planes do you think commercial pilots start their training in?

Acebuckeye13 posted:

probably not as many as there are crop dusters in the central valley

So it's slightly higher costs for airlines and agricultural companies? The difference in gasoline is an interesting technical question for sure, but the court ruling is after an extensive argument including experts from both sides. Coming in with a "but what about profits?!?!" is silly, they've had their day in court.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
You are Raging Against A Machine that literally was asking "so do they have to advance the timing, or set new altitude limits, or...."

My point when you asked "who gives a gently caress" is, quite a large number of people give a gently caress. It's not purely a hobbyist issue. Which is why I was curious how the industry would adjust

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Stultus Maximus posted:

So when I read "struck" I think "hit with a ship on accident" not "launched a strike package on."

Also I wonder when those DDGs will have to pull in and reload.

U.S. Central Command said that on Saturday between 3:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. Sanaa time it successfully conducted five "self-defense strikes" against the UUV, an unmanned surface vessel and three mobile anti-ship cruise missiles.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
UUV also known in the old times as a torpedo

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
So I'm digging into this insane AL Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos are children (seriously, the victims are Embryo A, B, C, D, and one named Baby Aysenne).

https://publicportal-api.alappeals....a6-063d4595aa1d

So the whole thing started when Mobile Infirmary, in a move that makes sense to anyone that's ever been hospitalized there, let a patient wander into its cryo facility, open a freezer, lift the tube out, where they burned their hand on the minus-several hundred degrees cylinder dropped it, and the embryos died.

A summation from before the case was decided:

https://www.courthousenews.com/alabama-supreme-court-considers-fundamental-question-what-is-life/

So here's my question- if the they're now being allowed to sue the hospital for wrongful death, why isn't the (unnamed) patient facing manslaughter charges?

Saul Kain
Dec 5, 2018

Lately it occurs to me,

what a long, strange trip it's been.


GD_American posted:

So I'm digging into this insane AL Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos are children (seriously, the victims are Embryo A, B, C, D, and one named Baby Aysenne).

https://publicportal-api.alappeals....a6-063d4595aa1d

So the whole thing started when Mobile Infirmary, in a move that makes sense to anyone that's ever been hospitalized there, let a patient wander into its cryo facility, open a freezer, lift the tube out, where they burned their hand on the minus-several hundred degrees cylinder dropped it, and the embryos died.

A summation from before the case was decided:

https://www.courthousenews.com/alabama-supreme-court-considers-fundamental-question-what-is-life/

So here's my question- if the they're now being allowed to sue the hospital for wrongful death, why isn't the (unnamed) patient facing manslaughter charges?

From skimming the case it looks like there is an enabling statute that applies to all unborn children in AL. It allows punitive damages in wrongful death cases involving unborn children. The case extends that protections to ALL unborn children even embryos. I didn’t read their justifications for including embryos.

That enabling statute only covers a narrow subset of civil cases. It doesn’t cover anything involving criminal charges.

No idea what AL criminal code looks like or if there is a similar case involving criminal charges.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

ded posted:

UUV also known in the old times as a torpedo

I want to know if it's a real UUV, or a kamikaze version of those drug running boats that are basically a speed boat with a bunch of ballast and a snorkel, and "underwater" means, like, waves lap over the top regularly in calm seas.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/local-news/2024/02/west-virginia-house-passes-bill-allowing-prosecution-of-librarians

The West Virginia House of Delegates debated the merits of removing protections for public librarians and school librarians from criminal prosecution in the off chance a minor encounters books and content some consider to be obscene.

The House passed House Bill 4654 – removing bona fide schools, public libraries, and museums from the list of exemptions from criminal liability relating to distribution and display to a minor of obscene matter – in a 85-12 vote Friday, sending the bill to the state Senate.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republicans-contraception-abortion-2024-election-b2493130.html

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in his concurring opinion on Dobbs that the court “should reconsider” its long-standing rulings, including the 1965 Griswold v. Connecticut decision, which granted married couples the right to use contraceptives without government oversight. (The Eisenstadt v. Baird decision seven years later granted unmarried couples the same right.)

“If that’s not a direct threat, I don’t know what is,” Ms Singiser says.

In the wake of Justice Thomas’ opinion, Republican Sen. Marsha Blackburn called the Griswold decision on contraception “constitutionally unsound” and Republican Sen. Mike Braun voiced his opinion that the issue of contraceptive access should be left to the states.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/19/alabama-supreme-court-embryos-children-ivf/

https://alabamareflector.com/2024/02/19/alabama-supreme-court-ruling-could-end-ivf-treatments-in-state/

Patient advocates fear that a Friday ruling by the Alabama Supreme Court stating that frozen embryos outside the womb are “children” could be the end for in vitro fertilization (IVF) in the state.

Pine Cone Jones fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Feb 20, 2024

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


The party of small government strikes again.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Pine Cone Jones posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/19/alabama-supreme-court-embryos-children-ivf/

https://alabamareflector.com/2024/02/19/alabama-supreme-court-ruling-could-end-ivf-treatments-in-state/

Patient advocates fear that a Friday ruling by the Alabama Supreme Court stating that frozen embryos outside the womb are “children” could be the end for in vitro fertilization (IVF) in the state.

"I stand by my sins! I welcome the end!" I scream over the roar of a screaming crowd as the executioner puts the hood over my head. Here I am, about to be defiantly hanged for thousands of counts of the sin of Onan, for in spilling my seed without impregnating anyone I have become an aspiring genocidaire beyond the likes of which Hitler could ever dream of aspiring to. I was caught up in the initial raids after Comcast sold my browser history to the newly-formed Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice Brigades after the 2024 elections yielded a 9-0 SCOTUS majority for Republicans, with "The United States vs. PornHub" serving as one of the most consequential decisions since Marbury vs. Madison.

"I shall have my cum to Jesus moment before any of you fuckers ever do!" I shriek before the trapdoor opens and I take my final and fatal journey to the end of the hangman's rope.

hypnophant
Oct 19, 2012

pantslesswithwolves posted:

"I stand by my sins! I welcome the end!" I scream over the roar of a screaming crowd as the executioner puts the hood over my head. Here I am, about to be defiantly hanged for thousands of counts of the sin of Onan, for in spilling my seed without impregnating anyone I have become an aspiring genocidaire beyond the likes of which Hitler could ever dream of aspiring to. I was caught up in the initial raids after Comcast sold my browser history to the newly-formed Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice Brigades after the 2024 elections yielded a 9-0 SCOTUS majority for Republicans, with "The United States vs. PornHub" serving as one of the most consequential decisions since Marbury vs. Madison.

"I shall have my cum to Jesus moment before any of you fuckers ever do!" I shriek before the trapdoor opens and I take my final and fatal journey to the end of the hangman's rope.

no, i’m spartacus

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

hypnophant posted:

no, i’m trojan man

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1759739057398046863?t=vh6j3rqrjolv80mL7BhEwQ&s=19

How is she still an officer in the Army Reserve?

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
Expel that traitorous coward

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



pantslesswithwolves posted:

"I stand by my sins! I welcome the end!" I scream over the roar of a screaming crowd as the executioner puts the hood over my head. Here I am, about to be defiantly hanged for thousands of counts of the sin of Onan, for in spilling my seed without impregnating anyone I have become an aspiring genocidaire beyond the likes of which Hitler could ever dream of aspiring to. I was caught up in the initial raids after Comcast sold my browser history to the newly-formed Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice Brigades after the 2024 elections yielded a 9-0 SCOTUS majority for Republicans, with "The United States vs. PornHub" serving as one of the most consequential decisions since Marbury vs. Madison.

"I shall have my cum to Jesus moment before any of you fuckers ever do!" I shriek before the trapdoor opens and I take my final and fatal journey to the end of the hangman's rope.

A holocaust in every handkerchief!

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Midjack posted:

A holocaust in every handkerchief!

I don't remember that part of Hoover's speech

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Nick Soapdish posted:

How is she still an officer in the Army Reserve?

Reserve officers can say drat near anything they want when not on orders, as long as it’s not extremist or aimed at illegal discrimination against protected classes or directly contemptuous of the president (disagreeing with a president’s budget is not contemptuous). They can be active political operatives and hold political office unless on active orders for something like 270+ days. Just need to be out of uniform and not say that you represent the government when doing your political activities.

And her statement there is honestly not that alarming or extreme; it’s the kind of whining you’ll hear from a lot of people who don’t know what they’re talking about.

ob21
Aug 21, 2017

mlmp08 posted:

Reserve officers can say drat near anything they want when not on orders, as long as it’s not extremist or aimed at illegal discrimination against protected classes or directly contemptuous of the president (disagreeing with a president’s budget is not contemptuous). They can be active political operatives and hold political office unless on active orders for something like 270+ days. Just need to be out of uniform and not say that you represent the government when doing your political activities.

And her statement there is honestly not that alarming or extreme; it’s the kind of whining you’ll hear from a lot of people who don’t know what they’re talking about.

...her entire schtick was a scam, and it worked. In 2015 she had a net worth less than me, and as of a couple of years ago it was like $30mil, and making $2mil a year from Fox. The reason she stayed in the 2020 race till the end was the cash flow from India and idiots like me. The Army class A pics, the "practicing Hindu" stuff, the surf shots etc were all just a means to an end, where she can milk an over-funded PAC account while talking out of both sides of her mouth on Fox. Well played, Tulsi. TYVM.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

So it's slightly higher costs for airlines and agricultural companies?

lmao airlines don't pay for that poo poo (in America), the wannabe pilots do

Which is a big part of why nobody wants to be a pilot anymore

Pine Cone Jones posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/19/alabama-supreme-court-embryos-children-ivf/

https://alabamareflector.com/2024/02/19/alabama-supreme-court-ruling-could-end-ivf-treatments-in-state/

Patient advocates fear that a Friday ruling by the Alabama Supreme Court stating that frozen embryos outside the womb are “children” could be the end for in vitro fertilization (IVF) in the state.

So anything that doesn't occur get transferred just stays frozen forever. Who picks up the tab when the "parents" die of old age? Or maybe the state just confiscates them and gives them to good Christian families.

Under no circumstances would I want to impose any laws that limit the reproductive choices of others, but I understand where the would-be parents are coming from and think that in a world that operates on good faith (not this one) you could legally acknowledge that these were intended to be born. If someone had destroyed the frozen embryo that is now my son and gotten off as if it was simple destruction of property, I am pretty sure the resulting crack-ping would have seen me move to the mountains and start writing a manifesto.

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
Yeah, becoming a pilot is hilariously expensive unless you go the military route, and even then you have to do different FAA carts to fly commercial jets.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



Huh good point Tulsi maybe its time to aggressively downsize the US military

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Discussion Quorum posted:

Under no circumstances would I want to impose any laws that limit the reproductive choices of others, but I understand where the would-be parents are coming from and think that in a world that operates on good faith (not this one) you could legally acknowledge that these were intended to be born. If someone had destroyed the frozen embryo that is now my son and gotten off as if it was simple destruction of property, I am pretty sure the resulting crack-ping would have seen me move to the mountains and start writing a manifesto.

The way I see it, it ought to be legislated/prosecuted under the scope of negligent infliction of emotional distress. It’s a violation of the prospective parent(s), not the embryo.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1759583849472827854?s=46&t=SkW94bDM2QmmLP6FBxgJMw

Came with receipts

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Preparing to testify before the Republican-controlled house seems pretty straightforward: just call up whichever family member watches Fox News and watch them talk themselves in circles.

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CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Coasterphreak posted:

Yeah, becoming a pilot is hilariously expensive unless you go the military route, and even then you have to do different FAA carts to fly commercial jets.

There are also exemptions for military pilots, allowing them to get hired with only 750 hours, but who actually gets out with only 750 hours?

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