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SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Rochallor posted:

I'm sure it is actually gerrymandered on purpose, but is there a way to draw districts in Nevada without gerrymandering it? It's such a unique state population-wise; practically every person in the state is crammed into the bottom point. The state is empty.

I'll go a step further and say it's not possible to draw any districts without at least some incidental gerrymandering. Obviously the difference is in degree. But I think it's still worth remembering there won't ever be a perfect map.

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MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

Disappointed, last week was at least funny. He's been neutered and declawed but then I don't think he ever really had a lot of claw there in the first place. But he still seems more annoyingly sedate and resigned
I hate this stupid cycle , I'm surrounded on social media by Navanly pics almost canonizing him and stupid constant low hanging fruit trump poo poo, I think I've outgrown something lol

MadSparkle has issued a correction as of 06:53 on Feb 21, 2024

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

sullat posted:

They went straight there. A bunch of scouts saw the people already there and were like, "wow, they're giants, we're screwed" and so Moses was like "You doubters will never get to see the promised land" and took them back into the Sinai to sulk for 40 years.

lol reading exodus for the first time since i was a kid and i had no idea the levites got to be the priestly class because they were willing to slaughter anyone who didn't repent for the golden calf

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
So groceries are expensive in all "free" countries? I don't get it....

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1760056767780716675

DoJ is alleging that SMIRNOV, the principle source for the whole Biden crime family House investigation bullshit, was connected to Russian intelligence. I believe this is meddling in elections, from Russia, and not a hoax.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Tired: #believewomen

Wired: #believefeds

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

It doesn't make any sense. Is he saying that since we have to pay so much for world policing that we don't have enough for anything else?

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Gorson posted:

It doesn't make any sense. Is he saying that since we have to pay so much for world policing that we don't have enough for anything else?

simple as

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Gorson posted:

It doesn't make any sense. Is he saying that since we have to pay so much for world policing that we don't have enough for anything else?

yes

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

MadSparkle posted:

Disappointed, last week was at least funny. He's been neutered and declawed but then I don't think he ever really had a lot of claw there in the first place. But he still seems more annoyingly sedate and resigned
I hate this stupid cycle , I'm surrounded on social media by Navanly pics almost canonizing him and stupid constant low hanging fruit trump poo poo, I think I've outgrown something lol

Nah, he's doing this of his own free will. Stewart has always supported the war in Ukraine, partially because he over identifies with Zelensky because they were both comedians thrust into politics or whatever. He has always been extremely naive when it comes to foreign politics too.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

never attribute to naivety that which is adequately explained by malice

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

lumpentroll posted:

never attribute to navalny that which is adequately explained by malice

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1760065646040150373?t=Ib2w_5hrX9e3Zii4EkiFwQ&s=19

Lin-Manuel Turtle
Jul 12, 2023


Note: The previous song “The Schuyler Sisters” was played in an incorrect musical order. The correct song after the previous “My Shot” is the following song, “The Story of Tonight”, which would then be followed by “The Schuyler Sisters.” I deeply regret this unfortunate error.

04. The Story of Tonight

HAMILTON:
I may not live to see our glory

LAURENS, MULLIGAN, & LAFAYETTE:
I may not live to see our glory

HAMILTON:
But I will gladly join the fight

LAURENS, MULLIGAN, & LAFAYETTE:
But I will gladly join the fight

HAMILTON:
And when our children tell our story

LAURENS, MULLIGAN, & LAFAYETTE:
And when our children tell our story

HAMILTON:
They’ll tell the story of tonight

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

punish turtle again

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

its fine to post your elaborate fantasies about how badly your posting enemies will be owned so long as you say itll be the other guy doing it

see also the genre of "go get raped and murdered in gaza and see how great hamas is" posting

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Punished Turtle posted:

Note: The previous song “The Schuyler Sisters” was played in an incorrect musical order. The correct song after the previous “My Shot” is the following song, “The Story of Tonight”, which would then be followed by “The Schuyler Sisters.” I deeply regret this unfortunate error.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POHVE9uCNAY

That's okay. now I know how to sing along when you get to "The Schuyler Sisters" again

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

The Archaic posted:

4 people died of heart attacks running up the congress stairs on J6, what exactly did they accomplish?

incredible content

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010


i think cubans would rather prefer the embargo be lifted instead of some soy dsa loser telling them they're doing leftism wrong

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

mcmagic posted:

So groceries are expensive in all "free" countries? I don't get it....

Free Markets make Free Societies or whatever the axiom is

Because they believe that The Market is both Providence (the will of Mammon god) and the will of “the people” (consumer choice), they see being able to buy a selection of products and being able to express democratic will as more or less the same thing.

It’s why “progressive” liberals can be so insidious with having a libertarian streak, because the solution to any societal problem can be, (and under the nudge theory, must be) limited to deregulating and commodifying something and letting the most perfect fairness of The Market do its work.

“People should be free to choose X” sounds good and liberatory and progressive, and that’s how Democrats in particular talk about every single social issue - access to - but that’s completely ideological. Thinking of society as a series of markets where people just need to be free to rationally decide what’s in their best interest and somehow that will lead to the common good or whatever is insanely baked into American culture at this point, but … I mean, that poo poo’s not real.

So things are expensive because people are so free to choose that the prices reflect what the market will bear, and they really want to pay more because they want stuff so much - the prices reflect how much they demand it.

Instead of an authoritarian system that unfairly limits what people who really want things can pay, (because you can only express how much you want things by spending money, there is no other way) free societies fairly let everyone compete and express their preferences on a free market.

Because the prices are inherently good and fair, a society that allows people who want things more to pay more is good.

It’s all babybrained nonsense imo

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 09:53 on Feb 21, 2024

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

lol

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

lumpentroll posted:

never attribute to naivety that which is adequately explained by malice

Officer Sandvich
Feb 14, 2010

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Free Markets make Free Societies or whatever the axiom is

In my opinion, Democracy, Freedom of Belief and Free Market Capitalism all diffuse conflict by making the possibility of changing who is dominant in society possible without violence and destruction. Even if they make manifestly poor choices and outcomes, the ability for revolution to not always produce violent civil war gives them a leg-up over rival systems.

To people who are dominant in society or identify with that dominant faction, this can be viewed as a plus (when someone defeats me and mine, as always happens in every society, I and everything I care about does not get destroyed!), or as a minus (how dare they challenge my dominance!)

Putin's Russia was the result of a failed transition to Democracy, Freedom of Belief and Free Market Capitalism. It turned into (to be pithy) an autocratic fascist kleptocracy.

Now, in order to gather power, you have to really want to have it and keep it. So to many of these people, the fact that all 3 of those ban them from destroying their potential rivals is unacceptable. So they want to dismantle Democracy and replace it with one where they cannot lose power. They want to dismantle Free Markets and replace it where economic dominance can crush foes. They want to ban other Beliefs and ways of thinking and crush those who follow them with violence.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

I love the pefectly smooth and spherical liberal brain

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

New York Congressman Ritchie Torres, a staunch supporter of Israel, has left the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) after splitting with members over their stance on the Israel-Hamas war.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...rs-over-israel/

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Uncle Wemus posted:

New York Congressman Ritchie Torres, a staunch supporter of Israel, has left the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) after splitting with members over their stance on the Israel-Hamas war.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...rs-over-israel/

what the gently caress was he doing there in the first place

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1759939789615136920

https://twitter.com/richimedhurst/status/1760251267664818663

Live tweeting the trial

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1760273369520296308

🎶 Greatest city in the wooooorld! 🎶

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001


Rochallor posted:

I'm sure it is actually gerrymandered on purpose, but is there a way to draw districts in Nevada without gerrymandering it? It's such a unique state population-wise; practically every person in the state is crammed into the bottom point. The state is empty.
There's an explanation in the replies - democrats didn't contest some of the districts, so the republicans ran up the score there. I wonder if there are any lessons to take about cases where the general popular vote matters vs the vote counts in specific areas.

https://twitter.com/EvanPerc_/status/1760083639566749912?s=20

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Poverty and Economic Marginality in Eighteenth-Century America






lol that New York in the 1700's seems to have been a better society than in 2024, though the parts highlighted in red remain the same.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Succ

https://twitter.com/souljagoytellem/status/1760032343190888690?t=yH9mByDD-8egCCIajYEIUA&s=19

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
impressive of bernie to cut off his relationship with himself

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Lib and let die posted:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1760056767780716675

DoJ is alleging that SMIRNOV, the principle source for the whole Biden crime family House investigation bullshit, was connected to Russian intelligence. I believe this is meddling in elections, from Russia, and not a hoax.

russiagate 2.0 again what a bore

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

comedyblissoption posted:

tucker should film public transport in china

i saw some photos of amazing chinese trains the other day and the comments were all like "now show the rest of china lol"

i hate it here (america)

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

camoseven posted:

i saw some photos of amazing chinese trains the other day and the comments were all like "now show the rest of china lol"

i hate it here (america)

the funny thing is they are improving the rest of china too, like the rural parts and domestic tourist destinations.
p sure its all in their plan or whatever.

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

camoseven posted:

i saw some photos of amazing chinese trains the other day and the comments were all like "now show the rest of china lol"

i hate it here (america)

the rest of china is p rad everyone should go see it

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

china will grow larger

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

HallelujahLee posted:

china will grow larger

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

I’ve been enjoying Jon Stewart’s return, but this was one of his weaker segments. He flubbed the economic and political comparison to Russia. Moscow and St. Petersburg are the homes of Russia’s elite who benefit from its narrow kleptocratic petro-economy, and a showpiece for the rest of the world. Most of the country is dirt poor by Western standards and Russian provincial life if miserable. It’s a demographically shrinking, and culturally dead country. Putin is basically just Brezhnev 2.0.

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Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

I'm on vacation with extended family (libs except for one libertarian). The libertarian, who is more or less Greenwald in ideology, got into a heated argument about funding Ukraine and Israel with one of the libs.

Good:
Biden
Haley
Navalny

Bad:
Trump
Putin

No ideology, no policy, no "where do we want to be and how to we get there?". Just Red v Blue with the media picking the teams.

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