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"this page is not counted towards your HP instant ink page count" contains the most secret evil of the entire thing
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HP needs to get smacked the gently caress down almost as badly as John Deere does/did.
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Feb 20, 2024 19:19
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Most printers, even if you set them to print greyscale, still uses the other inks which is some bullshit. I had a tech or sales guy try to explain to me why this is necessary until I explained to him I;ed worked in 4 color printing for 20+ years and, no, it's not if all you need to print is text or an email or some poo poo. It's absolutely to use up the ink.
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Feb 21, 2024 00:11
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Kavros posted:"this page is not counted towards your HP instant ink page count" contains the most secret evil of the entire thing For real. Like if the page count was actually tied to how much ink you use then why wouldn’t it count? They’re basically just saying that number is made up.
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Feb 21, 2024 00:17
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BiggerBoat posted:Most printers, even if you set them to print greyscale, still uses the other inks which is some bullshit. I had a tech or sales guy try to explain to me why this is necessary until I explained to him I;ed worked in 4 color printing for 20+ years and, no, it's not if all you need to print is text or an email or some poo poo. It's absolutely to use up the ink. Is it "necessary" as part of some head cleaning/line refresh thing? Eons ago when I had a Canon Bubble Jet, i think about 800% of my ink use was the printer self cleaning every time it started up. Not to mention the service call that was required when the purge tank was full. It's the main reason why I prefer laser and toner over ink based printers. If I need to print a realistic photo I'll go to a kiosk, rather than purchase a printer with 8 cartridges that each need replacing after 4 or 5 uses.
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Feb 21, 2024 00:20
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If I remember my printing correctly, you can do some fancier prints if you use the colours in addition to key. But if I'm printing b/w, I don't care for rich black or whatever, I'm printing a letter to some company on recycled paper.
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Feb 21, 2024 00:28
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Is it "necessary" as part of some head cleaning/line refresh thing? I think the sales person was trying to get them to think that true black (black ink with some of each of the three primary colors on top for added richness) was for some reason desirable for standard text output. The self cleaning is needed for inkjets to keep them for clogging but nearly all of them unsurprisingly use way too loving much ink for it compared to what's actually needed. They also run them too often.
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Feb 21, 2024 00:29
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Last Chance posted:For real. Like if the page count was actually tied to how much ink you use then why wouldn’t it count? HP Instant Cart is the most misunderstood thing. Everyone always like lol why do I need to pay to use the ink I already have. But the point is you don’t have the ink. You’re paying a subscription that gives you x number of pages, and in return they automatically send you ink refills. You’re not paying for the ink you’re paying for a specific number of pages. That message is to let you know that that bullshit page didn’t use up one of the pages you’re paying for. They fill the carts up so that you don’t run out of ink and complain obviously. But the service you’re paying for is denoted by number of pages. This is not me endorsing this poo poo this is just me explaining it. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Feb 21, 2024 00:54
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I don’t do a lot of printing but I would probably rank “ensuring printers are Not My Responsibility” as more important to me than avoiding ads, and I’m a lunatic with a Pi-Hole and at least two adblocking extensions on any browser I use.
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Feb 21, 2024 01:26
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My inkjet printer currently has something going on and I'm hoping not to jinx it. Normally it gives a low ink warning after a moderate amount of use, and I'll get a couple weeks before it hits "out of ink" and requires a change. It got to "out of ink" in November and somehow whatever it was that made it stop working hasn't been firing, because I've been printing just fine with all the cartridges showing as empty. The only noticeable difference is that any colours are tinted a bit green, but I print pretty much exclusively in b/w so it hasn't made a difference to me. Some day I'm sure the ink will finally run dry and my luck will run out with it, but until then, I will enjoy actually using all of the ink I've bought.
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Feb 21, 2024 05:37
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you know im surprised the freeze peaches people and the tinhat people dont try to make their own FOSS printer. one that doesnt have those tracker printer dots, and ones that accept FOSS ink or toner whatever.seems like an order magnitude less complicated than some of the weird FOSS hardware stuff which the only success seems to be ONEPlus cellphones.
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Feb 21, 2024 06:05
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Evil Fluffy posted:HP needs to get smacked the gently caress down almost as badly as John Deere does/did. I initially read this as John Denver and agreed.
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Feb 21, 2024 06:16
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PhazonLink posted:you know im surprised the freeze peaches people and the tinhat people dont try to make their own FOSS printer. one that doesnt have those tracker printer dots, and ones that accept FOSS ink or toner whatever.seems like an order magnitude less complicated than some of the weird FOSS hardware stuff which the only success seems to be ONEPlus cellphones. Anyone who cares enough just buys one of the printers that's not poo poo from an rear end. A color laser printer with duplex printing and no nannies is like $500, it's not a lot of money these days. If you just need black and white, it's like $200 Canadian. If you want to chain your dick and balls to HP to run some loving inkjet bullshit on a subscription, you have a fetish, not an actual problem.
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Feb 21, 2024 06:26
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buy a Brother printer you numb nuts
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Feb 21, 2024 06:27
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PhazonLink posted:you know im surprised the freeze peaches people and the tinhat people dont try to make their own FOSS printer. one that doesnt have those tracker printer dots, and ones that accept FOSS ink or toner whatever.seems like an order magnitude less complicated than some of the weird FOSS hardware stuff which the only success seems to be ONEPlus cellphones.
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Feb 21, 2024 07:38
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Vegetable posted:buy a Brother printer you numb nuts When I looked up the prices, what brand do you think I used? What brand do you think I own? Of course it's a Brother. It's God's own printer.
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Feb 21, 2024 07:52
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BiggerBoat posted:Most printers, even if you set them to print greyscale, still uses the other inks which is some bullshit. I had a tech or sales guy try to explain to me why this is necessary until I explained to him I;ed worked in 4 color printing for 20+ years and, no, it's not if all you need to print is text or an email or some poo poo. It's absolutely to use up the ink. At one point I was a Bose rep and was in a big box store the other day looking at potential new home theatre setups. Sales guy was deadset on 'wandering me' over to the Bose display while talking about what his favourite setup is. I mentioned I was ex-Bose and he straight up stopped bothering and took me to the regular stuff.
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Feb 21, 2024 09:18
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btw if you have a brother printer and it runs out of color ink you can continue printing in black and white by covering the window on the cartridges that the optical sensors look to check ink level with tape.
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Feb 21, 2024 09:24
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TACD posted:I don’t do a lot of printing but I would probably rank “ensuring printers are Not My Responsibility” as more important to me than avoiding ads, and I’m a lunatic with a Pi-Hole and at least two adblocking extensions on any browser I use. Hmmmmm maybe HP should start selling advertisement space in the margins of your prints?!?
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Feb 21, 2024 10:16
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Sell ink cartridges as lootboxes. Every ten-pack guarantees at least one cartridge of Magenta rarity or better.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:35
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The Lone Badger posted:Sell ink cartridges as lootboxes. Every ten-pack guarantees at least one cartridge of Magenta rarity or better. I know a place that used to sell refilled cartridges that did that, every 10 a random color was put in
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Feb 21, 2024 10:44
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https://twitter.com/seanw_m/status/1760115118690509168 edit: lmao https://twitter.com/promisebender/status/1760092747468595346
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After the scans were taken, everything appeared to be correct and functioning. He had succeeded. But by one year after the first scan was initialised, and the last ones were being done, something went wrong. The simulations started freezing, or entering paradoxical loops and shutting down. There was apparently a conceptual flaw in the scan's design, and none of the Alpha-levels survived except a few.
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Feb 21, 2024 13:14
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People are discovering random seeds I guess
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PT6A posted:I initially read this as John Denver and agreed. Too soon
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Feb 21, 2024 13:20
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Foxfire_ posted:Printer hardware is actually hideously complicated/finicky and it's a miracle they work as well as they do. Things without moving parts are way easier oki4w was the perfect printer. (Well, having a processor rendering PostScript or such would probably actually make sense these days). (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_printer)
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Feb 21, 2024 13:36
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I print stuff from work and have been since my very first part time job at 19 at the university. But recently I printed some tax documents at work and one of the IT people saw me doing it in passing and chastised me for printing non-work poo poo. It was my tax forms so very easily recognizable from a short distance. Like seriously you’re going to complain that I used up pennys worth of resources when the 5 minutes you spent talking to me about wasting resources is like a thousand+ times what I "wasted" ok.
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Feb 21, 2024 13:43
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Boris Galerkin posted:People are discovering random seeds I guess
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Feb 21, 2024 13:44
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Please keep printing identity theft fuel at work because it’s really funny when somebody gets distracted and leaves their tax documents on the printer
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Feb 21, 2024 13:55
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Tiny Timbs posted:Please keep printing identity theft fuel at work because it’s really funny when somebody gets distracted and leaves their tax documents on the printer Yeah I never leave the printer and also printer access is badge controlled. E: But yes it’s always “hilarious” when I see random people’s resumes and poo poo left on the printer but I’m not one of those people. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Feb 21, 2024 14:01
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Hope they aren't archiving every print job
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Feb 21, 2024 14:05
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IDK what “Ghostline the flux” means but it sounds badass.
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Feb 21, 2024 14:07
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Boris Galerkin posted:I print stuff from work and have been since my very first part time job at 19 at the university. Technically, your tax forms are very much work related so tell him to gently caress off
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Feb 21, 2024 14:13
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"Glad your clicklies" would be a legit great slogan for a link aggregator
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Feb 21, 2024 14:50
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Elias_Maluco posted:https://twitter.com/seanw_m/status/1760115118690509168 Tech Nightmares: Would It Glad Your Clicklies BiggerBoat posted:Technically, your tax forms are very much work related so tell him to gently caress off This, that IT person needs to shut the gently caress up and mind their own business.
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cat botherer posted:IDK what “Ghostline the flux” means but it sounds badass. It's ghostriding the whip except for the internet
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Feb 21, 2024 18:01
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Evil Fluffy posted:This, that IT person needs to shut the gently caress up and mind their own business. The more fun thing to do when you see something like that, a CV, applications or cover letters etc, is to scan and send to group email from the print/scanner email address. Getting in the way when people are trying to get on with their day so they can get out of there is a pain in the arse and if they leave awkward poo poo there and it is spread everywhere as a result, that's on them.
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Feb 21, 2024 18:12
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Report that IT Printer Cop to HR for snooping on employee's personal information. HR loves that kind of stuff.
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Elias_Maluco posted:https://twitter.com/seanw_m/status/1760115118690509168 So what is happening here? Chat GPT is now teaching itself using stuff generated by Chat GPT and is just creating nonsense as a result?
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