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Rain Brain
Dec 15, 2006

in ghostlier demarcations, keener sounds

Jerusalem posted:

That said, it was a gateway drug into Point Blank and then reading some great stuff by Richard Stark, and also in a completely unrelated matter I love the writing of Donald Westlake too.

Highly recommend Darwyn Cooke's adaptations of the Parker novels; masterfully done with top tier art that's perfect for the material.

Speaking of crime/heist stories has anyone else watched Culprits on Hulu? It looks like they spent a huge amount of money on it, the story is solid, and some of the performances are top notch. Nathan Stewart-Jarrett (Misfits, the good Utopia) is the lead and he's just excellent, I want him cast in everything now. Kirby Howell-Baptiste (The Good Place, Sandman) is also fantastic in it. All this being said I have no idea why there seems to have been zero publicity for it? Like why go to the amount of effort that was obviously put into this and then just let it drop with no fanfare? Or is this a case where I've aged out of being a targeted demographic?

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Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

Rain Brain posted:

Highly recommend Darwyn Cooke's adaptations of the Parker novels; masterfully done with top tier art that's perfect for the material.

For anyone interested, they were released in a complete collection not too long ago.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
Lee Child had his tongue kind of in cheek when he created Reacher. I don't particularly see them as boomer fantasies because it's just another in a long line of books like The Executioner series. Pure pulp.

That second season I thought was pretty bad. I couldn't give a poo poo about his little crew. And it's a minor thing but I do appreciate in the books how multiple people note that Reacher often looks like poo poo.

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped

DrVenkman posted:

And it's a minor thing but I do appreciate in the books how multiple people note that Reacher often looks like poo poo.

lol in the Witcher show people point out that his clothes suck even though they're fine. I'm not sure if people say these things in the books I've read.

Maybe it's to bring attention that his gear is slashed to pieces but they thought Gerald looks better in gleaming armour and the audience will take the hint that others in his world see is as battered?

Could also be a reference to him not being from any of the very xenophobic lands he travels through. He's nominally a knight from a tiny country far away, one that prior to becoming a real knight of the land he claimed to be from there as it was so remove nobody could prove otherwise. So to the people around him he does dress terribly. But this may be giving the showrunners too much credit.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

DrVenkman posted:

Lee Child had his tongue kind of in cheek when he created Reacher. I don't particularly see them as boomer fantasies because it's just another in a long line of books like The Executioner series. Pure pulp.

That second season I thought was pretty bad. I couldn't give a poo poo about his little crew. And it's a minor thing but I do appreciate in the books how multiple people note that Reacher often looks like poo poo.

It's weird how season 1 did seem to be at least kind of aware of how ridiculous Reacher was as a character, but season 2 just fully and sincerely buys into it.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

DrVenkman posted:

Lee Child had his tongue kind of in cheek when he created Reacher. I don't particularly see them as boomer fantasies because it's just another in a long line of books like The Executioner series. Pure pulp.

That second season I thought was pretty bad. I couldn't give a poo poo about his little crew. And it's a minor thing but I do appreciate in the books how multiple people note that Reacher often looks like poo poo.

I read the first book when I found out they were doing a series on it, and Lee Child has a long foreword where he talks about why he started writing these books: he literally analyzed the market and tried to see what kind of characters and stories sold books. He's in it for the money.

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped
Is there an HBO thread or any better thread than here to write paragraphs about my very favourite so far completed show, that being the Pope miniseries (Young and New).

Other than ridiculous scenes where celebrities guest cameo (what's the point? Jude Law and John Malkovich is enough star power) it really is as much art as it is entertainment. It's also a series I don't shy away from recommending to friends who are militant atheists on the one hand or pious believers on the other. Even though the show itself doesn't shy away from both biting at the beloved figures in Roman Catholicism while also making you admire, even respect terrible people.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Talk about it here!

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/BenMullin/status/1760048550522585260

Sumo
Jun 17, 2005




which Fubu is fake

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Per AdWeek, Amazon is planning to shut down Freevee "in weeks" and move all the programming over to Prime Video.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Timby posted:

Per AdWeek, Amazon is planning to shut down Freevee "in weeks" and move all the programming over to Prime Video.

Makes sense. Prime Video is basically Freevee now except it costs money to watch shows with commercials.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
I'm watching Will Trent because I saw that Clark Gregg was going to guest star in it this season, 10 minutes in and it's pretty bad.

Also watching Allegiance because Enrico Colantoni is one of the stars, it's not good but at least it's watchable.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Oasx posted:

I'm watching Will Trent because I saw that Clark Gregg was going to guest star in it this season, 10 minutes in and it's pretty bad.

L

This show looked absolutely dire.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Oasx posted:

I'm watching Will Trent because I saw that Clark Gregg was going to guest star in it this season, 10 minutes in and it's pretty bad.

The commercials I saw for it on Hulu just made it look like a poor man's Monk, and in that case, I'll just watch Monk.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I actually got excited seeing the season 2 premiered. Haven't watched it yet because the show is very bad but I love seeing how they try to construe a mystery/case/villain where dyslexia becomes his super detective power. I think it also helps that I can't help but see the main guy as Brent Weinbachs character from the Pound House videos.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Trent seems like a bore. Crazy that they would center the show around him.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Oh my god so I watched it and they really did introduce a character named Cricket to become Trent's love interest and show he's ready to date again so of course she also heroically sacrifices herself to throw a bomb into a parking garage office. These bombs predictably were the doing on Trent's serial-killer nemesis, to get his attention from jail.

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped
I caught an episode or two while in not as nice a place as now.

I just remember that the other police officers really hate him and let him have it. A range of animosity based on ableism, his ostensible sexual orientation performance, and his treasonous investigation of other cops. That last ones really drives the first two. And I'm guessing there'll be ice broken and truces made at some point. But it's interesting: how progressive would it be to have a series where a gay detective with a disability consistently nails the bad guys through solid police work unrelated to his orientation or disability but is almost always partially thwarted by the homophobic, ableist force? Because this series takes you a third of the way there unless I'm grossly misremembering.

Like it's not even showing that he's in the doghouse it's constables telling him to go f himself.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Been a while since I saw the first episodes but he's not gay and it pretty quickly turns into him always needing to be the one with the right quirks to solve the case or relate to whoever. There definitely are some shittier cops, and I think one of them straight up is meant to become an antagonist villain eventually but they're slow rolling it by just starting him the angry regressive cop.

What you're describing is more realistic and probably more interesting than Will Trent and its mild attempt at a dyslexic detective thing.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Bright Bart posted:

Is there an HBO thread or any better thread than here to write paragraphs about my very favourite so far completed show, that being the Pope miniseries (Young and New).

Other than ridiculous scenes where celebrities guest cameo (what's the point? Jude Law and John Malkovich is enough star power) it really is as much art as it is entertainment. It's also a series I don't shy away from recommending to friends who are militant atheists on the one hand or pious believers on the other. Even though the show itself doesn't shy away from both biting at the beloved figures in Roman Catholicism while also making you admire, even respect terrible people.
Big fan of the cardinal who is a massive Napoli fan, to the point where he refers to their front three as a "Holy Trinity" and has a scene where he goes full kit wanker.

I get why people weren't swept up by that show but when you stick with it you realise just how good its sense of humour is.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
Season 1 of Will Trent somehow worked for me despite the massive amount of cliches working against it. I'll keep watching that garbage.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
He's also basically Reacher if he grew up malnourished in a sketchy foster/group home instead of an Army brat

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
Based purely on that one episode I get the impression that the series was written for an actor with tons of natural charisma, instead what I saw in the screen was a semi-autistic guy which every other character is constantly praising.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Supposedly Star Wars: The Acolyte will be premiere June 5th. This one has potential as it is set outside of the Prequel or Original series.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

muscles like this! posted:

Supposedly Star Wars: The Acolyte will be premiere June 5th. This one has potential as it is set outside of the Prequel or Original series.

Also one of the few Star Wars shows that actually has good writing talent attached to it, both in the showrunner Leslye Headland and that it actually had a writers room.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

My wife rewatched How I Met Your Mother, I had never really seen it before.



What a lovely ending lmao. Also boy it dated quick

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
It's like Friends except a couple years later.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
It did try to do a few interesting presentational and storytelling things but often bit off more than it could chew those fronts.

But at least it tried.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Finally got around to finishing season 1 of REACHER. Absolute peak television. 5/5. No notes. Would not change a thing.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Mordiceius posted:

Finally got around to finishing season 1 of REACHER. Absolute peak television. 5/5. No notes. Would not change a thing.

Do yourself a favor and leave it at that, season 2 was a big let down sadly (assuming that we share the exact same tastes, mindset and response to stimuli).

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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e: disregard, no new footage

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Mordiceius posted:

Finally got around to finishing season 1 of REACHER. Absolute peak television. 5/5. No notes. Would not change a thing.

Stop there unless you what you wanted was more Reacher shooting guns with his army friends and being a weird sociopath.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

IRQ posted:

Stop there unless you what you wanted was more Reacher shooting guns with his army friends and being a weird sociopath.

Yeah I can't in good conscience recommend season 2, it went from Boomer Porn that was actually fun to full on Boomer Porn that wasn't fun.

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped

Gorn Myson posted:

Big fan of the cardinal who is a massive Napoli fan, to the point where he refers to their front three as a "Holy Trinity" and has a scene where he goes full kit wanker.

I get why people weren't swept up by that show but when you stick with it you realise just how good its sense of humour is.

I have no stake in this, all I want to say is that it's interesting how the general reaction here on SA contrasts not only to advance reviews but also their own excitement after seeing the first episode or so. Must have gone cringe soon after.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bright Bart posted:

I have no stake in this, all I want to say is that it's interesting how the general reaction here on SA contrasts not only to advance reviews but also their own excitement after seeing the first episode or so. Must have gone cringe soon after.

It's a foreign show, about religion, somewhat ambiguous, and not heavily genre / plotty. That's something of an uphill battle with goons.

I think all the goons who've seen it here enjoyed it though -- I thought The Young Pope was really good. Very funny, like goons are saying (the Pope lamp!), plus had the absolute poo poo shot out of it. Nuns playing soccer, the kangaroo. Great stuff.

Haven't seen The New Pope though.

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped

Gorn Myson posted:

Big fan of the cardinal who is a massive Napoli fan, to the point where he refers to their front three as a "Holy Trinity" and has a scene where he goes full kit wanker.

The show is excellent at letting the most self-serious in some ways characters let their guard down, and on the other hand show the nuances to the broadest caricatures.

There's the scene in New Pope where the cardinals are deliberating after the first unsuccessful vote. It may well be the absolute height of dark comedy on screen when we see: One cardinal hope for a pope that rejects liberals and homosexuals... so that the church can focus on poverty. And another cardinal hope for a pope that can end the sexual abuse of children and.... send him "straight to hell".

Escobarbarian posted:

Talk about it here!

Alright!

The series sometimes shows rather than tells all the details, but there aren't too many cases where it's just unclear what is meant to be happening.

For me, the most interesting of when this is the case is how Lenny fails to cure the doctor's child, but then is able to do what he does do at the end.

Is it a matter of his faith being strong enough for one but not the other? Lenny seems unsure of himself in trying to cure the boy, but quite confident that God will grant this other lesser (greater?) miracle. Is it a matter of faith or him not having the right intention in the first place but the right one in the second? I don't see the showrunners, even mockingly, going for "curing the boy wasn't part of the Divine Plan". When they mock religion they don't go for low blows.

It's also a bit ambiguous as to what exactly is the miracle at the end. I thought, and I think most did as well, that God ends the boy's suffering and takes him up to Heaven. But I think some others mentioned that they think Lenny only showed the suffering boy what awaits him when his death comes naturally and/or showed the parents that this misery isn't all there will be for him.

Unlike the case of whether Lenny's prayers killed the corrupt nun, I don't know if it was meant to be ambiguous. But I guess unless I meet the folks who made the show I'm unlikely to ever know.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Same, Young Pope owned, one day I'll watch New.

The resolution of the blackmail letters :kiss:

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Haven't seen a ton of talk about it here, but Monsieur Spade is really good and I feel like it needs more attention. It's an awful name and it's stuck on AMC+ as far as I know, so it's totally understandable why no one is watching it, but it's a good remedy for the loss of Perry Mason. Beautifully shot, Clive Owen rocks, the dialogue is really sharp, and there are a lot of biting conversations with really sleazy French people, what's not to like

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Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

Hakkesshu posted:

Haven't seen a ton of talk about it here, but Monsieur Spade is really good and I feel like it needs more attention. It's an awful name and it's stuck on AMC+ as far as I know, so it's totally understandable why no one is watching it, but it's a good remedy for the loss of Perry Mason. Beautifully shot, Clive Owen rocks, the dialogue is really sharp, and there are a lot of biting conversations with really sleazy French people, what's not to like

That is indeed a bad name and i wasn’t a big fan of Perry Mason, but I will give it a shot because of Clive Owen

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