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Pennywise the Frown posted:Wisconsin (and me) does have a massive alcohol problem and it's kind of a big pride but also a low key shame thing. Do you have lots of people with ancestry from the nordic countries there?
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Heath posted:I work in an OR and we can always, always tell when you smoke weed or when you drink a lot based on how you react to the anesthesia. People lie about it constantly for some reason. how do you know if they don't react that way and don't tell you? you're probably catching a tiny fraction.
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Many years ago I visited Wisconsin for a convention and arrived in the area around midnight. While driving around looking for a hotel, we noted that 1 in 4 buildings was a bar. Even in primarily residential areas, there were a couple of bars on every block. We finally found a place called The [town name] Inn and went in to see if there were vacancies. It was a dive bar.
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I realize now that I've never in my life purchased a TV. In college, someone always had one and around the time I was on my own, I didn't want one because TVs got really lovely really fast, and the content on TV was big not worth it. I keep an eye on the market, but TVs are moving further and further away from a thing I'd ever want. The panels suck. The Software is abhorrent. The controllers suck. In the pursuit to make it a quarter inch thinner, they forgot to add any heat sink to the panel. You'd think the top of the line TVs wouldn't have these kinds of problems, but they are just as lovely with modern panels (and new trade-offs). I so, so wish TVs didn't suck. I want a dumb 65" panel for games and movies and poo poo, but I don't think there is literally a single offering that gets even close to what I'd want, let alone pay any substantial money for.
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Feb 22, 2024 09:41
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Just get a big monitor? Countdown until monitors start sucking, though I mean, they already got rid of VGA ports.
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Recently all of the Youtube embeds on websites have been autoplaying for me and it's absolutely awful. I'll go to a new page on a thread here and immediately the video plays and I hear the sound. The video isn't even in view, if it's anywhere on the page it will autoplay. This is happening on other sites too so it's not an issue with the forums. I can't figure out how to disable it and it's driving me mad, the only thing I can do is disable embeds on the forum but that doesn't help for other sites.
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Feb 22, 2024 11:14
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His Divine Shadow posted:Just get a big monitor? Countdown until monitors start sucking, though I mean, they already got rid of VGA ports. A big monitor costs like 10 times more than a comparable TV. I just never engage with any of the TV features and only use the HDMI input mode and that's been mostly satisfactory so far even on a lovely smart TV.
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Feb 22, 2024 11:18
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Wisconsin (and me) does have a massive alcohol problem and it's kind of a big pride but also a low key shame thing. Wisconsin Old Fashions are one of my go-to drinks now 
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Feb 22, 2024 11:55
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skooma512 posted:What do you when they are and they didn't stop beforehand? They usually take a lot more medication to stay completely knocked out. mawarannahr posted:how do you know if they don't react that way and don't tell you? you're probably catching a tiny fraction. We can always tell.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I keep an eye on the market, but TVs are moving further and further away from a thing I'd ever want. The panels suck. The Software is abhorrent. The controllers suck. In the pursuit to make it a quarter inch thinner, they forgot to add any heat sink to the panel. You'd think the top of the line TVs wouldn't have these kinds of problems, but they are just as lovely with modern panels (and new trade-offs). TVs are WAY better than they have ever been, especially if you spring for an OLED.
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Heath posted:We can always tell. 
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Vampire Panties posted:Not to discredit Wisconsite drinking, but this is pretty much everyone, everywhere. I haven't had a drink in 11+ years and I've been completely ostracized. I quit drinking 18 years ago and this never happens. The only people I've been "ostracized" by were old friends who's only leisure activity was getting shithouse every single night and mostly we just drifted apart. Zero people have ever given me any poo poo for not drinking. Getting pressured to drink is definitely not a universal experience. I did have a waiter at a Mexican restaurant give me poo poo for ordering a diet coke one time, implying it was gay, but he was giving me poo poo for everything I ordered. "Diet coke, huh? You sure you don't mean regular coke? Hmmm, ok I guess. You really want to order that dish? Its pretty spicy. I don't think you can handle it." *brings out a giant plate of food that I couldn't possibly finish in one sitting* "Oh look, you couldn't eat it. I told you it was too spicy. You want another ~*DiEt CoKe*~ to cool down?" It was very funny. big mean giraffe posted:TVs are WAY better than they have ever been, especially if you spring for an OLED. My newer Sony TV is pretty nice, I don't know what people are complaining about wrt modern TVs. It plays Plex just fine. Its not even OLED but it looks super sharp. I guess it takes like 20 seconds to boot up when I first turn it on but otherwise it looks great and gives me no problems. I'm assuming the actual problem is, as always, streaming services.
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Feb 22, 2024 16:12
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Professor Shark posted:Wisconsin Old Fashions are one of my go-to drinks now Man, I pissed off a Chicago mixologist when I asked from a Brandy Old Fashioned Sour. Wisconsinites can also spot out of state people because they actually stop at the red lights.
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Me, the person who can't function without a sparked up joint, just never drinks because it's lame and for babies and you shouldn't be dependent on a chemical to normalize you hthCanine Blues Arooo posted:I realize now that I've never in my life purchased a TV. Just get a Sceptre display panel, they're fine if you gently caress with their settings enough. E: I've pissed off bartenders in Chicago and Wisconsin. The second time it was because I accidentally overwrote his wedding vow tape with christian rap from the late 90s. The first time was because I set the guy's car on fire on accident. Very excitable sorts, bartenders.
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Philthy posted:Man, I pissed off a Chicago mixologist when I asked from a Brandy Old Fashioned Sour. I pissed off a bartender in Wisconsin (she was not a mixologist) by asking for an old fashioned but with brandy. She was mostly annoyed I wasn't just asking for a shilitz like everybody else though.
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The owner actually brought the guy over to me and he explained how Brandy Old Fashioned Sours dont exist. He explained how this guy studied drinks professionally. I said I'll have whatever Old Fashioned you know how to make. It was a good drink. But it was a very weird experience.
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Funka posted:I pissed off a bartender in Wisconsin (she was not a mixologist) by asking for an old fashioned but with brandy. She was mostly annoyed I wasn't just asking for a shilitz like everybody else though. This makes no sense. Brandy old fashions are a very Wisconsin drink. Wisconsin consumes half the brandy that is sold in the states. https://www.milwaukeemag.com/wisconsin-drinks-a-lot-of-brandy/
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I grew up in one of the pink counties on the map and have never drank, also went to college at a Jesuit Catholic university in Milwaukee itself and somehow never drank. Everyone drinks a lot, it's funny going anywhere and seeing people talk like they can drink and they are no where near what I've seen at home. It's honestly typically not actively dangerous overdrinking it's a lot of casual overdrinking. The kind of thing that'll catch up to you in the future rather then making you do dumb poo poo now that'll kill you. Except every so often it does get someone now.
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I Miss Snausages posted:This makes no sense. Brandy old fashions are a very Wisconsin drink. Wisconsin consumes half the brandy that is sold in the states. I wish I would have known it was a thing back then, it wasn't in any M city anyways it was https://maps.app.goo.gl/otYZqWKvtHjU4AUw8
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mawarannahr posted:unless you're running drug tests on all of them, you are not No, I assure you, we can always tell. Regular smokers take 3x as much propofol to remain sufficiently deep. We can tell.
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Feb 22, 2024 18:15
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Heath posted:No, I assure you, we can always tell. Regular smokers take 3x as much propofol to remain sufficiently deep. We can tell. You're missing the people who don't react that way e: 3/151 lol https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0248062
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im no doctor but it seems odd to me that theres only 1 factor that could possibly affect the dose needed to put and keep you asleep and it's smoking weed apparently ?
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Feb 22, 2024 18:33
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mawarannahr posted:You're missing the people who don't react that way Interesting that it's a measurable dose dependent effect but yeah that data definitively shows that Heath is talking out their rear end. There's plenty of overlap between the groups, OP is really acting like they're out to prove my bias against practicing medical professionals being any good at actual research or statistics. Every time I have to interact with someone who is a practicing clinician they're the most biased filled numerically illiterate people I run into in my profession.
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mawarannahr posted:You're missing the people who don't react that way quote:Three hundred and eighteen participants were included (cases, n = 151; controls, n = 167). Cannabis exposure was associated with an increase in propofol dose (cases 0.33 mg/kg/minute ±0.24; controls, 0.18 mg/kg/minute ±0.11; p<0.0001). Cannabis exposure remained an independent predictor of propofol dose on multivariate linear regression accounting for other important covariates (p<0.0001). Daily cannabis users required a higher propofol dose than weekly or monthly users. Three procedural sedation-related complications occurred in the cannabis-exposed group, while none occurred in the unexposed group. Three complications out of the exposed group. That does not mean only 3 people showed signs of cannabis use (that is, needing a lot more propofol to remain sedated.) I literally cannot understand why you are arguing this point or what you have to gain from it, especially since you're citing a source that says the exact thing I've been trying to tell you. We can always tell.
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Heath posted:Three complications out of the exposed group. That does not mean only 3 people showed signs of cannabis use (that is, needing a lot more propofol to remain sedated.) You do you, doc 
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Heath posted:Three complications out of the exposed group. That does not mean only 3 people showed signs of cannabis use (that is, needing a lot more propofol to remain sedated.) You're missing the part where there are overlaps at every exposure level because there are other factors which play into this. You literally cannot always tell. Pts should still be encouraged to confidentially report usage and it should be considered in the mix but there's no way you can run some sort of binary classification of weed smokers vs not if that's what the relationship looks like.
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Disclosing drug use to a health professional will cost an average single at least 1.2k annually in extra insurance premiums.
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Heath posted:Three complications out of the exposed group. That does not mean only 3 people showed signs of cannabis use (that is, needing a lot more propofol to remain sedated.) more old drunks than there are old doctors bithc
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guess that explains why i was drug tested before a major surgery
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I Miss Snausages posted:This makes no sense. Brandy old fashions are a very Wisconsin drink. Wisconsin consumes half the brandy that is sold in the states. It’s even the state cocktail. https://www.npr.org/2023/11/14/1213008601/wisconsin-crowns-the-brandy-old-fashioned-as-the-official-state-cocktail
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I Miss Snausages posted:This makes no sense. Brandy old fashions are a very Wisconsin drink. Wisconsin consumes half the brandy that is sold in the states. it sounds like Wisconsin consumes half or more of all alcohol in the US too
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mawarannahr posted:it sounds like Wisconsin consumes half or more of all alcohol in the US too If you had to live in Wisconsin you'd be loving tanked all the time, too.
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Feb 22, 2024 19:39
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Neh, Wisconsin is pretty great minus the chuds. The scenery is amazing if you like camping and hiking. The seasons are great now that winter basically doesn't exist anymore.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Do you have lots of people with ancestry from the nordic countries there? Wisconsin is known for it's German population traditionally. In my area we have a lot of that, Italian, Polish, and Irish (me), some others. Up north (I'm far south east) you'll find more nords especially getting closer to Minnesota.
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Heath posted:Three complications out of the exposed group. That does not mean only 3 people showed signs of cannabis use (that is, needing a lot more propofol to remain sedated.) Anecdotal but my many experiences corroborates what you're saying exactly as well as what the doctors have told me. One time I got an endoscopy and I (not purposefully) understated my weed use and apparently I was near combative and they had to use enough propofol to get me near general anesthesia which scared them, naturally. I woke up to them all hovering over me and I was just like "Hey, what's up guys!" While they were horrified. I wake up instantly ready to go every time. From awake to clothed and ready to go in under a minute or two. I got a colonoscopy a few months ago and had a long conversation with the same anesthesiologist (who I mentioned was lovely) and they made a nice cocktail of propofol, fentanyl, and ketamine (standard for me now) and I only woke up once. Very cheerful but with a tube up my rear end. "Hey everyone! How's it going?! *nurse runs over and pushes the syringe a little more* I hope everyone is having a good tiiimmmm........zzzzzzzz*" She said I metabolize propofol very very quickly.
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Kagrenak posted:Every time I have to interact with someone who is a practicing clinician they're the most biased filled numerically illiterate people I run into in my profession. *The gut feelings are frequently racist
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RDM posted:As a clinician-scientist I can confirm that you are correct, doctors are stupid as gently caress and there's no research that will ever be more important to them than a Gut Feeling*. If you think of doctors as basically diagnostic uengineers or mechanics the last couple pages start to make a little more sense.
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Philthy posted:guess that explains why i was drug tested before a major surgery Everyone is. There are a surprising number of people that think doing a few rails right before surgery is the perfect thing to get ready for it.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Everyone is. There are a surprising number of people that think doing a few rails right before surgery is the perfect thing to get ready for it. I'm picturing a rad surgeon grinding down the stairs and kickflipping into the operating room
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