[Ukraine] U.S. gives up on sending $100,000 guided artillery shells due to 6% hitrate

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Targeting Russia�s Malign Influence in Moldova

The Department is imposing sanctions on MARINA TAUBER (TAUBER), chief representative in Moldova of ILAN MIRONOVICH SHOR (SHOR), a person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to the Order. During last year�s local elections, TAUBER helped the fugitive, U.S.-sanctioned SHOR shift his party apparatus from the U.S.-sanctioned SHOR PARTY to other parties and subvert Moldova�s electoral process through illegal vote buying on behalf of the Kremlin. SHOR has demonstrated his intent to use his malign criminal network, and TAUBER as his chief representative, to wage similar subversion campaigns in upcoming election cycles. Moldovans deserve free and fair democratic processes. The United States supports Moldova�s progress on democratic and economic reforms and a future free from the grip of the Kremlin�s malign influence. We will continue to promote accountability for those who try to subvert the will of the Moldovan electorate.

TAUBER is described as SHOR�s second-in-command and has directed the operations of SHOR�s malign networks in Moldova, as well as operations of the SHOR PARTY, a person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to the Order. TAUBER is being designated pursuant to section 1(a)(vii), for being owned or controlled by, or having acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, SHOR, a person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to the Order.

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supersnowman: Oct 3, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/mossrobeson__/status/1759950772802814388?t=vR1fxvnnAKJ-Rr_1ar85Hg&s=19

The paint around Bandera's picture looks a little too clean as opposed to the rest of the truck.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 17:47

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Take notice Moldova, after Ukraine is done, USA is putting you up next on the chopping block.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 17:47

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

Lostconfused posted:

Take notice Moldova, after Ukraine is done, USA is putting you up next on the chopping block.

At least Georgia can breathe a sigh of relief, but yeah I would be very worried if I was Moldavian.

Moses� twitter can be disheartening

https://x.com/mossrobeson__/status/1760348487521116342?s=20

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 17:55 on Feb 23, 2024

# ? Feb 23, 2024 17:49

Bar Crow: Oct 10, 2012

stephenthinkpad posted:

I am convinced sanctioning was never an effective tool, the western elites came up with this concept because 1, it makes the financial class appear to be more powerful than they actually are and 2, makes the US look more in charge, more of a "world police" so to speak

Middle management only has one trick: harassment. Harass workers. Harass suppliers. Harass customers. Harass the general public. Our political leadership are just middle managers for the rich and sanctions are harassment campaigns. They don't have the authority to enact meaningful change so the only option is to create enough suffering that something gives.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 17:57

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

They got their dream scenario with Cuba in the 90�s, but even then, people didn�t want to give up on the revolution because of the US, they were just poor and miserable.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:01

DeimosRising: Oct 17, 2005; �Hola SEA!

oh since Luxemburg's The Russian Revolution came up in the Marxism thread recently I thought you guys might enjoy this:

Rosa Luxemburg posted:

The best proof is the Ukraine, which was to play so frightful a role in the fate of the Russian Revolution. Ukrainian nationalism in Russia was something quite different from, let us say, Czechish, Polish or Finnish nationalism in that the former was a mere whim, a folly of a few dozen petty-bourgeois intellectuals without the slightest roots in the economic, political or psychological relationships of the country; it was without any historical tradition, since the Ukraine never formed a nation or government, was without any national culture, except for the reactionary-romantic poems of Shevschenko. It is exactly as if, one fine day, the people living in the Wasserkante[3] should want to found a new Low-German (Plattdeutsche) nation and government! And this ridiculous pose of a few university professors and students was inflated into a political force by Lenin and his comrades through their doctrinaire agitation concerning the �right of self-determination including etc.� To what was at first a mere farce they lent such importance that the farce became a matter of the most deadly seriousness � not as a serious national movement for which, afterward as before, there are no roots at all, but as a shingle and rallying flag of counter-revolution! At Brest, out of this addled egg crept the German bayonets.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:02

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Putin and Rosa sitting in a tree

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:08

my bony fealty: Oct 1, 2008

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

At least Georgia can breathe a sigh of relief, but yeah I would be very worried if I was Moldavian.

Moses’ twitter can be disheartening

https://x.com/mossrobeson__/status/1760348487521116342?s=20

whoops all Nazis

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:16

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

mycomancy posted:

Is that a snuff gif?!

For those dudes ears and brains probably.

I forgot to tell everyone to turn the sound on the video. I don't know why MP4's on this site don't have the sound going.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:25

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

mawarannahr posted:

lolanda
Remarks by President Biden in Press Gaggle | San Francisco, CA | The White House

[Ukraine] continue to fight (inaudible) the way

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:32

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

DeimosRising posted:

oh since Luxemburg's The Russian Revolution came up in the Marxism thread recently I thought you guys might enjoy this:

hell yeah

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:34

Sancho Banana: Aug 4, 2023; Not to be confused with meat.

https://twitter.com/yatasuregima/status/1761048334222106766?t=gxWQrmC-F43ZClASSR0hZQ&s=19

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:41

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Getting some mixed messages there.

Stalin is good? Russians are lions or sheep or is it some other soviet nationality that Jugashvili is leading?

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:43

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

Putin is bad and stalin is good. And hell, they're right

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:51

FirstnameLastname: Jul 10, 2022

supersnowman posted:

The paint around Bandera's picture looks a little too clean as opposed to the rest of the truck.

i think that's from mud spilling from the windshield washer making that sharp line of dirt

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:52

lumpentroll: Mar 4, 2020

really queer Christmas posted:

Putin is bad and stalin is good. And hell, they're right

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:53

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

�When I see Russian athletes � I see every city destroyed,� says Ukrainian high jumper Yaroslava Mahuchikh

# ? Feb 23, 2024 18:54

dead gay comedy forums: Oct 21, 2011

DeimosRising posted:

oh since Luxemburg's The Russian Revolution came up in the Marxism thread recently I thought you guys might enjoy this:

one of the most scumbrained and criminal hatchet jobs done by social-democrats and libcoms was to reinvent Rosa into this "adversary" of Lenin. Much of her critique was also enmeshed by a profound support and desire to see the Soviet Union through.

I posted here about it, I disagree with that specific assessment of hers because, at least to me it seems that way, because there was no differentiation in reporting to what the Rada (what she is attacking) was and the Soviets, because both words can be translated to council.

Lenin, On Ukraine posted:

The new, coalition Provisional Government�s policy failure is becoming more and more obvious. The Universal Act on the organisation of the Ukraine, issued by the Ukrainian Central Rada[1] and adopted on June 11, 1917, by the All-Ukraine Army Congress, plainly exposes that policy and furnishes documentary proof of its failure.

quote:
�Without seceding from Russia, without breaking away from the Russian State," reads the Act, �let the Ukrainian people have the right to shape their own life on their own soil.... All laws by which order is to be established here in the Ukraine shall be passed solely by this Ukrainian Assembly. And laws establishing order throughout the Russian State must be passed by the All-Russia Parliament.�

[...]

[1] The Ukrainian Central Rada (Council) was a counter-revolutionary bourgeois nationalist organisation founded in April 1917 at the All-Ukraine National Congress in Kiev by a bloc of Ukrainian bourgeois and petty-bourgeois nationalist parties and groups. M. S. Grushevsky, an ideologue of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, was its chairman and V. K. Vinnichenko its vice-chairman. Among its members were Petlyura, Yefremov, Antonovich and other nationalists. Socially, the Rada relied for support on the urban and rural bourgeoisie, the kulaks, and the petty-bourgeois nationalist intellectuals. It tried to consolidate the power of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie and landowners and to establish a Ukrainian bourgeois state, taking advantage of the national liberation movement in the Ukraine. Under the guise of lighting for national independence, it strove to win the support of the Ukrainian people, divert thorn from the all-Russia revolutionary movement, bring thorn under the sway of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie, and prevent the victory of the socialist revolution in the Ukraine. The Rada supported the Provisional Government despite differences over the issue of granting autonomy to the Ukraine.

Following the victory of the October Socialist Revolution the Rada declared itself the supreme organ of the �Ukrainian People�s Republic� and campaigned openly against Soviet rule. It was one of the principal centres of the counter-revolutionaries of the whole of Russia.

What I think Lenin was absolutely correct was that the Union had to end the Great-Russian attitude to really break and bury Tsarism, even though Rosa is also correct in her assessment regarding those issues. It did work: Lenin was made folklore by many other peoples in the Soviet Union. And well, it must be emphasized that Rosa's point carries special validation because of hindsight in the present circumstances; after all, the Ukrainian SSR voted massively in favor of the continuation of the Union and the continuation of the socialist project.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:05

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Rada is soviet in Ukranian, council is the correct translation for both words.

That's why in Ukrainian it was called Radianskyi Soyuz instead of Sovetskyi Soyuz.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:12

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Also Ukrainization was started by the Tsar, Lenin just put more effort into it.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:15

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-war-showed-us-precision-missiles-not-effective-russia-report-2024-2

Who could have predicted this

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:17

fizziester: Dec 21, 2023

Source: Ukrainska Pravda

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/23/7443404/

Ukraine's PM says joint meeting with Poland on border failed to take place
EUROPEAN PRAVDA, UKRAINSKA PRAVDA � FRIDAY, 23 FEBRUARY 2024, 18:35

A Ukrainian government delegation headed by Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal never met with its Polish counterparts on the common border area on 23 February to resolve the traffic blockage.

Source: European Pravda, citing Shmyhal on Telegram

Details: The prime minister noted that the Ukrainian delegation had arrived at the border earlier on 23 February following Volodymyr Zelenskyy's proposal to Poland to "negotiate and find a compromise" on the border blockade.

Ukraine was represented by deputy prime ministers Olha Stefanishyna and Oleksandr Kubrakov; the heads of Ukraine�s Interior Ministry and the Agriculture Ministry; deputy heads of the Foreign Ministry, the Infrastructure Ministry and the Economy Ministry; and the heads of the State Border Guard and Customs Services.

"Unfortunately, such a meeting with Polish officials has not taken place today," he added.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:18

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-war-showed-us-precision-missiles-not-effective-russia-report-2024-2

Who could have predicted this

quote:

US-made Himars or Excalibur shells, which are guided to their targets using GPS, have proven vulnerable to Russian electronic-warfare units, which scramble their signals and send them off course.

Nice excuse for Ukrainians to hit civilian targets that don't have ECM coverage.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:21

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-war-showed-us-precision-missiles-not-effective-russia-report-2024-2

Who could have predicted this

Lostconfused posted:

Nice excuse for Ukrainians to hit civilian targets that don't have ECM coverage.

That was 240k dollars per missile well spent.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:29

BearsBearsBears: Aug 4, 2022

quote:

There have been no public reports of Abrams tanks being used in active combat operations so far.

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

what are the odds they really haven�t even tried to use them? and why not?

No actual Abrams have been seen in combat so far (in Ukraine), probably because they're very finicky machines that require a lot of specialized maintained to not break down. However, recently a destroyed M1150 (minefield breacher) was shown outside of Avdiivka. It's built on an Abrams chassis.

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1760761782992580750

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:32

Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

Sancho Banana posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1761014295532343357?t=_DZt9nHr-jmCr2CX3tExBw&s=19

Get a new trick lol

lol at the Biden admin trying so hard to get people upset about navalny

🥱

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:41

Hatebag: Jun 17, 2008

america gives billions of dollars in rocket launchers to nazis and then cries about a dead nazi because of its great love of freedom and liberty

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:51

Officer Sandvich: Feb 14, 2010

https://cepa.org/article/ukraine-veterans-bloodied-but-unbowed/

Ukraine Veterans Bloodied but Unbowed

quote:

To passers-by, the connection between the four men ranged around the table of a coffee shop in Washington DC would have been obvious. They had all lost limbs. What would have been less clear is that they lost them in the service of Ukrainian statehood.

They had been recruited at different times, fought Vladimir Putin�s invaders on different fronts, and crossed the Atlantic as a part of a program of rehabilitation and prosthesis sponsored by an American corporation.

[....]

Serhii joined the ranks of the Aidar assault battalion, worked as a sapper, and then became a division commander. In July 2023 he was conducting combat reconnaissance in the Klishchiivka area, near Bakhmut, when he was so badly wounded his right arm had to be amputated.

He met Russian prisoners of war during his service and found a massive contrast with his comrades. While in the Ukrainian trenches, people were fighting for their families, friends, and freedom, the invaders� motives were financial.

�It wasn�t even interesting to talk with them. They came stupidly for money, to improve their social level,� Serhii said. �One problem is that there are a lot of them. They came in a crowd, stepping over the corpses.�

[....]

[Oleksii] agreed with Serhii that, while the Ukrainians have determination and belief in the cause on their side, the Russians have more people and weapons.

�I lacked equipment. I was the commander of a combat vehicle and I didn�t have one,� he said. �I understand that I am the machine, but a real one was needed.�

[....]

�There is no [small arms] battle as such, it�s all artillery and aviation, they constantly attack us,� [Petro] said, underlining the imbalance in the fighting. �We need heavy artillery and aviation as well.�

[....]

Oleksii said the Third Assault Brigade has a flexible recruitment system that could be replicated elsewhere.

�People join voluntarily, and there�s always a steady stream of newcomers,� he said. �You can come for a week, give it a try and they�ll push you, guide you, allowing you to determine for yourself if you�re up for it.�

Serhii also backed the concept of volunteer battalions, �You can join for a month or two, then spend a couple of months at home. It encourages individuals to willingly return to the battlefield,� he said. �There�s no need to coerce them. They willingly step up, take action, fight, and then return.�

[....]

All of the soldiers want to contribute to the army in some way after rehabilitation. Serhii plans to drive a pickup truck to deliver ammunition or combat kits to the front lines, while Petro [lost his leg to a landmine] and Oleksii [lost his arm to artillery] want to be instructors and teach newly mobilized soldiers.

https://cepa.org/article/ukraine-wishful-thinking/

Ukraine: Wishful Thinking

quote:

The movie script was almost written. Vladimir Putin had overreached himself in Ukraine. The Russian dictator forged national unity there and revived the transatlantic alliance. He had foolishly confronted not just Ukraine but the world�s richest and most powerful countries, with predictably catastrophic results.

Sanctions would cripple his economy and war machine. His friends, scenting defeat, would flinch. Long-range precision strikes would destroy logistics. Settlers would flee Crimea. Setbacks on the battlefield, plus shortages of food, fuel, ammunition, and spare parts would lead to mutiny, surrender, and desertion among the ill-led, badly trained invading forces.

As Russia�s mangled army folded in the face of Ukraine�s mighty counter-offensive, military disintegration � 1917 all over again � would lead to political change in Moscow. Russians would revolt against mobilization. The elite would split and switch sides.

Under new leadership, Russia would wake up from its imperialist frenzy and become a friendly, normal, law-governed country. Unicorns would prance around Red Square and a permanent rainbow would reach from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. 

All that was wrong. And not just the last bit...

https://cepa.org/article/how-to-make-putins-life-impossible/

How to Make Putin�s Life Impossible

quote:

...Second, when trying to close sanctions loopholes, maybe we need to think totally out of the box. One approach, suggested by Nigel Gould Davis at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), would completely ban Western trade with Russia by some date in the future � barring special licenses for truly critical items.

This would force companies to apply for special licenses to trade with Russia and have them prove why a particular widget produced is so critical to global markets. One can set a long lead time for implementation of such a policy � say two-to-three years � to give sufficient time for key licenses to be obtained and to limit disruption to global markets.

This would close off Russia from most non-critical imports and trade and, I think, accelerate the international isolation of Russia from business.

It would increase the costs of Russia doing business internationally, further raising import costs and further undermining the balance of payments. It would also give a stark warning to Russian policymakers that continuing its war of aggression will make everything, every aspect of life, more difficult unless it changes policy and returns to the fold of civilized nations.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:52

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

Cao Ni Ma posted:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-war-showed-us-precision-missiles-not-effective-russia-report-2024-2

Who could have predicted this

Is the Eurasia thread from Jan 2022 archived? I believe someone mentioned Excalibur and the problem with GPS guided munitions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U21-RrB8E6Q

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 19:57 on Feb 23, 2024

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:54

Officer Sandvich: Feb 14, 2010

https://twitter.com/HotSotin/status/1760969954260615272

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:57

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs9VIy_waR4

# ? Feb 23, 2024 19:58

fizziester: Dec 21, 2023

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://cepa.org/article/ukraine-veterans-bloodied-but-unbowed/

Ukraine Veterans Bloodied but Unbowed

... Serhii joined the ranks of the Aidar assault battalion, worked as a sapper, and then became a division commander. In July 2023 he was conducting combat reconnaissance in the Klishchiivka area, near Bakhmut, when he was so badly wounded his right arm had to be amputated...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidar_Battalion

Aidar Battalion

24th Separate Assault Battalion "Aidar", also known as the Aidar Battalion, is an assault battalion of the Ukrainian Ground Forces.

The unit took part in the war in Eastern Ukraine and had roughly 300-400 members in 2014. It was named after the Aidar River in the Luhansk region where it was initially deployed.[3]

In 2014, Amnesty International reported that members of the Aidar Battalion had committed war crimes during the war in Donbas.[4]

It was disbanded in 2015 and reconstituted as the 24th Separate Assault Battalion of the Ukrainian Army, before being absorbed into the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade in 2016. As of October 2018 the battalion lost 130 soldiers killed in action.[5] The Battalion's founder and former commander is Sergei Melnychuk [uk]...

... Two Swedish neo-Nazis from the Svenskarnas parti joined Aidar in 2013 and 2014 and made headlines in the Swedish and German media, since one of the Nazis was running for a local council in elections, and the same media heavily criticized the Nazi volunteers.[23][24][25]...

... On 8 September 2014 Amnesty International claimed that the battalion had committed war crimes, including abductions, unlawful detention, ill-treatment, theft, extortion, and possible executions.[16]

On 24 December 2014, Amnesty International reported that the unit was blocking humanitarian aid from Ukraine reaching the population of the separatist-controlled areas. Over half the population in these areas depended on food aid. According to Amnesty International, the Aidar, Donbas and Dnipro-1 battalions said they are blocking the aid because they "believe food and clothing are ending up in the wrong hands and may be sold instead of being given as humanitarian aid".[30] Denis Krivosheev, acting Director of Europe and Central Asia for Amnesty International, stated that starving civilians as a method of warfare is a war crime.[31]

In April 2015, the Ukrainian government-appointed Governor of Luhansk Hennadiy Moskal stated that Aidar battalion was "terrorizing the region" and asked Ukrainian Defense Ministry to rein in its members after a series of thefts, including ambulances and the takeover of a bread factory.[32]

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:07

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs9VIy_waR4

we could do some real damage if we could somehow export our housing market to russia

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:09

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://twitter.com/HotSotin/status/1760969954260615272

i can think of one really good reason

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:12

Starsfan: Sep 29, 2007; This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

this is my favorite Ukraine news story of the last week:

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-gives-military-3-weeks-seize-entire-region-ukraine-1872199

Newsweek posted:

Putin Gives Military 3 Weeks to Seize Entire Region of Ukraine: Kyiv

The Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) on Wednesday said Russia's armed forces have been given a deadline that's just over three weeks away to seize full control of Ukraine's Luhansk Oblast.

Vadym Skibitsky, the deputy head of GUR, said during an interview with Interfax-Ukraine that the Kremlin wants control of Luhansk before Russia's upcoming presidential elections.

The country's presidential election is scheduled to be held on March 15-17. Russian President Vladimir Putin is the overwhelming favorite to win what Western observers have said is a rigged contest. Though polling indicates Putin is popular among the Russian public, support for his war in Ukraine has begun to slip. Thus, victories such as the capture of Luhansk Oblast could give Putin something to show his people for the sacrifices of war.

"Before the elections, they want to reach at least the administrative borders of Luhansk Oblast," Skibitsky told Interfax-Urkaine. "To have at least some success, something like Avdiivka, maybe somewhere else on some other front."

Only because it's so obviously manufactured and desperate on the part of the Ukrainians lol.. they were obviously looking to use the defense of Avdiivka holding out through the Russian elections as a thumb in Putin's eye to cast him as a failure - "Putin is throwing lives away by the thousands to capture Avdiivka prior to his election, and he couldn't even get that done!". There were tons of news stories about how desperate Putin was for a victory for an election campaign,

Now that the narrative has fallen apart they had to improvise and come up with something else, so Putin wants Russia to capture a bunch more cities in the next 3 weeks before the election or else he will look like a failure lol

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:13

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Ukraine keeps moving goal posts but Putin somehow keeps reaching them.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:24

Organ Fiend: May 21, 2007; custom title

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://twitter.com/HotSotin/status/1760969954260615272

If something isn't being talked about, it doesn't exist!

Lib brained magical thinking bullshit.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:25

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/23/russia-marks-two-years-of-war-in-ukraine-looking-confident-amid-gains.html

Media narrative is turning quickly

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:28

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# ? May 28, 2024 03:32

supersnowman: Oct 3, 2012

Starsfan posted:

this is my favorite Ukraine news story of the last week:

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-gives-military-3-weeks-seize-entire-region-ukraine-1872199

Only because it's so obviously manufactured and desperate on the part of the Ukrainians lol.. they were obviously looking to use the defense of Avdiivka holding out through the Russian elections as a thumb in Putin's eye to cast him as a failure - "Putin is throwing lives away by the thousands to capture Avdiivka prior to his election, and he couldn't even get that done!". There were tons of news stories about how desperate Putin was for a victory for an election campaign,

Now that the narrative has fallen apart they had to improvise and come up with something else, so Putin wants Russia to capture a bunch more cities in the next 3 weeks before the election or else he will look like a failure lol

It's obviously made up but I'm pretty sure there isn't all that much of the oblast left in Ukraine's control.

# ? Feb 23, 2024 20:33

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