|
Nuebot posted:Someone upthread said tanks were the equivalent of chargers which could not be right because I think the most tanks I've ever seen at once is two. Two tanks. I've been tackled by no less than five chargers before. Yeah I think they're more equivalent to Hulks, who are also kind of ridiculous but at least they have a much more exploitable weak spot
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:02
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 00:26 |
|
|
I tried the Breaker and was thoroughly whelmed, but then I tried a bug mission with it and it's great there. It's good against every not-charger/titan bug type and being able to mag dump a Stalker to get it off you is incredibly helpful. Against bots it can help get the chainsaw dudes off you but most of the basic bots stay at mid range where it takes two shots to put them down and the SMG or Marksmen rifles are far better at cleaning up those groups of light bots. Also Chargers still suck rear end and are the primary reason I prefer fighting bots over bugs. The only really annoying thing about bot missions are the base turrets just because of their range and how hard it is to hit them properly. Maybe I'll feel differently once I get my own railgun but needing a railgun to make them not suck rear end is its own problem. e: Like, Hulks are approximately 5000 times more likely to kill you than Chargers but if I have to assault an outpost with 5 Hulks or 5 Chargers give me the Hulks any day. Darox fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Feb 24, 2024 |
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:10
|
|
|
Nuebot posted:Someone upthread said tanks were the equivalent of chargers which could not be right because I think the most tanks I've ever seen at once is two. Two tanks. I've been tackled by no less than five chargers before. I think the game intends for it to be Hulk=Charger Tank=Bile Titan in terms of equivalency which is why you get 5-8 chargers/5-8 hulks or 2-4 Bile Titans/2-4 tanks in term of spawns. In terms of effectiveness/threat/hassle then it's different. I'm more concerned about Chargers than I am tanks because tanks are huge, slow and get stuck everywhere. Flamethrower hulk groups that spawn like 2-3 at a time are the worst thing in the game to fight so it's funny they spawn as often as chargers.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:17
|
|
|
https://youtu.be/ZHZd8dGK0vQ?si=wC7cMweONuk_ZQmE this seems good to know vs chargers
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:19
|
|
|
I love how happy your dude gets if you just let rip and unload a whole magazine into a swarm with a machine gun. It’s nice to see him enjoying democracy
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:23
|
|
|
BitBasher posted:Quickly tap down on the D pad, don't hold down on the D pad. oooh i see, thanks fellow citizen
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:30
|
|
|
I think one thing I'm really enjoying about this game that I don't with others is that nobody's managed to datamine the hell out of everything and drop it on a wiki somewhere. It's still early days enough that everyone's experimenting with what feels best. And it's not a game where datamining everything is necessary to play the loving thing like Escape from Tarkov. You can just have fun in difficulty 5-6 missions with whatever you want to.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:41
|
|
|
yall weren't joking about the flamethrower, what a disaster of a weapon
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:47
|
|
|
explosivo posted:Did my friends' first Bile Titan mission last night in dense fog and man the sight of that thing coming out of the fog is just so unbelievably cool. The Hellmire planet is great for this. During the night it's not all that bad, but then the sun comes up, visibility drops to zero and fire tornadoes are in the sky.  
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:48
|
|
|
Friend: Lol that charger clipped through the wall Me (literally screaming): IT'S BACK IT'S BACK IT'S BACK https://i.imgur.com/VAzzP1w.mp4
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:48
|
|
|
https://i.imgur.com/uAQWe2V.mp4 Bask in your success. But not for long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPuaa08Wt2o Excellent patrolling strategy. DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Feb 24, 2024 |
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:53
|
|
|
Game desperately needs a 'For Liberty!' button.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 09:59
|
|
|
A+ jifs. Hulks are generally more manageable than chargers; the ranged hulks tend to keep their distance and are easy to shoot in the eye, while the melee hulks it's possible to simply blow off the flamethrower arm even if you aren't confident of an eye shot, on top of them being vastly more vulnerable to small arms shots in the rear.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:09
|
|
|
Any tips on completing the protect civilians mission against bots on level 7 difficulty? I’ve had a few operations run into a brick wall on this, and am just not sure how to establish enough safety that civilians can get out. We usually end up extracting like 6/40 and getting totally overwhelmed. Am wondering if it’s easier just to find an op without it.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:15
|
|
Kazinsal posted:I think one thing I'm really enjoying about this game that I don't with others is that nobody's managed to datamine the hell out of everything and drop it on a wiki somewhere. It's still early days enough that everyone's experimenting with what feels best. Another factor is that datamining isn't really going to change too much beyond like, the most effective strategies I guess. But if the dataminers found out that somehow the spray and pay was actually the most effective weapon, how many people would actually swap to using it?
|
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:17
|
|
|
https://i.imgur.com/zdvL8q8.mp4DarkDobe posted:Bask in your success.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:17
|
|
|
tildes posted:Any tips on completing the protect civilians mission against bots on level 7 difficulty? I’ve had a few operations run into a brick wall on this, and am just not sure how to establish enough safety that civilians can get out. We usually end up extracting like 6/40 and getting totally overwhelmed. Am wondering if it’s easier just to find an op without it. I've had the most success with speed and turrets. You want one person on each door, hitting the button the second they touch down. Fourth person floats, trying to keep the center of the map clean. Shields and railguns of course, but a mix of Autocannon and rocket turrets, with orbital Railgun and lasers for the spicy times. There's also an unintended-ish method involving running outside the evac with most people to bait the drops away, with a floater in the down running the objective. I've never tried it, seems lame, but you do you.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:23
|
|
|
DarkDobe posted:https://i.imgur.com/uAQWe2V.mp4 Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:24
|
|
|
It took me like 2 hours to earn 300 Super Credits. Anyway, after having done so many of these defense missions on trivial I'm going to go on a limb and say half the problem with them is the map. There's like two major variations of them, one variation has a lot of obstacles and stuff and the enemies beam down at the edges of the map, mostly. When there's a flood of enemies it's still rear end and sucks, but it's a lot better than the other variation where enemies will literally just beam in down right next to the escape hatch and bottle neck the routes used by the escapees.
|
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:30
|
|
|
Finally played a game with irl friends Once I got cornered by 3 hulks myPC shut off and I wasn’t able to join anyone’s game :v Then I solo’d challenging mode for some reason and failed every time
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:37
|
|
|
 
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:39
|
|
|
Don't believe their insidious lies: 
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 10:51
|
|
|
I like talking to the NPCs on my ship. They have some fun things to say. One lady was telling me the illuminate are just loving gone now, while another was telling me that the cyborgs are around and are working hard labour for their crimes and that its possible the automatons are trying to find them .
|
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 11:01
|
|
|
The autocannon is great but I suck rear end at aiming it
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 11:11
|
|
|
jerman999 posted:The autocannon is great but I suck rear end at aiming it definitely recommend crouching and an armor that reduces recoil with the autocannon. it's a beast but that mostly tames it
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 11:23
|
|
|
First person mode for the auto cannon is absolutely necessary. Unrelated, but I finally encountered stalkers and I totally understand why they're possibly the most dangerous enemies in the game. I saw a random pubbie in front of me get murked by one and after the initial laughter I realized that I should probably make it my number one priority to hunt down the nest. Also turns out you can destroy nests with the auto cannon which is cool
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 11:41
|
|
|
jerman999 posted:The autocannon is great but I suck rear end at aiming it Clearly you should embrace this truth, and live up to the namesake by toggling your autocannon to full auto mote.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 11:49
|
|
|
homeless snail posted:Pictured: helldiver has an opportunity to do the funniest thing ever I was trying to extract with positive requisition.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 12:24
|
|
|
Owl Inspector posted:yall weren't joking about the flamethrower, what a disaster of a weapon Yeah it rocks 
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 12:28
|
|
|
Spanish Manlove posted:First person mode for the auto cannon is absolutely necessary. It really is until you understand the recoil. It's still way more aim-able in first person for follow up shots in first person tho
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 12:35
|
|
|
Do only multiple-mission campaigns count for the "clear 8 defense campaigns vs automatons" task? Tried a bunch of one-mission trivials to see if they counted and they did not.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:03
|
|
|
It's a community goal, not a personal one: We as a community need to clear 8 defense campaigns.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:13
|
|
|
Pierson posted:Do only multiple-mission campaigns count for the "clear 8 defense campaigns vs automatons" task? Tried a bunch of one-mission trivials to see if they counted and they did not. that's a global order that requires the entire player base to successfully win eight planetary defense campaigns against the automatons, not eight missions/operations it's also probably gonna fail because five dozen youtube influencers and a hundred thousand poopsockers are intentionally failing countless operations by grinding out the most brainless mission in the game to the exclusion of everything else
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:16
|
|
|
just point out where the robot super credit bank is and i'll dive it every time
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:38
|
|
|
I can't wait until the streamers and youtube optimisers gently caress off and take 60% of the pop with them so the game can just exist as something fun.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:45
|
|
|
Oneiros posted:that's a global order that requires the entire player base to successfully win eight planetary defense campaigns against the automatons, not eight missions/operations drop me some samples/supercreds if you want that extrinsic motivation
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:46
|
|
|
Can't wait until mechs release for 30,000req
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:47
|
|
|
oh i guess mashing E on pick ups breaks things, i thought it was just a graphical thing til my samples didn't count
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 13:56
|
|
|
Booty Pageant posted:oh i guess mashing E on pick ups breaks things, i thought it was just a graphical thing til my samples didn't count 
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 14:13
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 00:26 |
|
|
I feel like chargers are over tuned and become a fun-limiter. You must build for taking out multiple chargers simultaneously and very quickly because it will happen all the time and you will get endlessly hosed up if you build for anything else. It's an extremely binary "are you worthless Y/N?" situation that drains away fun by forcing you away from options. Wanna try X? Can it handle three chargers? No? gently caress off.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2024 14:13
|
|
