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Lemniscate Blue posted:This was a few years ago so I don't really remember, sorry. I probably found some equation that used the ideal gas law to describe air pressure and temperature decreasing with altitude, and plugged in negative numbers. Coo—Neat! Thanks!
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Lemniscate Blue posted:This was a few years ago so I don't really remember, sorry. I probably found some equation that used the ideal gas law to describe air pressure and temperature decreasing with altitude, and plugged in negative numbers. Yeah, you can see this pretty easily in the Grand Canyon. Theres typically about a 30F degree swing from the rim to the center and thats about 2k feet above sea level. Definitely pro click for those of you who haven't, btw.
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Another day, another map. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/05/31/u-s-population-keeps-growing-but-house-of-representatives-is-same-size-as-in-taft-era/ Of course the article notes that part of this is from the fact that the US is the largest country in the OECD, and if you do the math on India's lower house, the average representative represents 2.6 million people.
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Imagine this were a map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislatures_by_number_of_members I am guessing Germany (736) is probably close to about how high you can go in a Democracy since even the current House is kinda unwieldy.
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Speaking of unwieldy, read this at your peril: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhang_seat
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SlothfulCobra posted:Another day, another map. Sure sounds like there should be more reps anyway
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Overhang seats are neat
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SlothfulCobra posted:Another day, another map. I like to think that Pew Research is run by Benjamin Pew from the 2008 music video to Utah Saints' hit track "Something Good".
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SlothfulCobra posted:Of course the article notes that part of this is from the fact that the US is the largest country in the OECD, and if you do the math on India's lower house, the average representative represents 2.6 million people. India's kind of forced to do it that way. Uttar Pradesh, at 241 million, is the most populous subnational entity in the world. If it were independent, it would rank as the world's fifth-largest country.  
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I've wondered about a system where instead of having overhang seats/party list make up seats with local representatives (making the final proportions nearly proportional), you just have local representatives but their voting power is weighted by their parties national vote share. So suppose party a wins 10/100 seats, but got 18% of votes nationally. Each of their representatives votes are then worth 1.8 votes in parliament (other parties will have reps with <1 weighting). I'm sure could work with non-fptp systems too
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I have some vague ideas that India probably should've been divided into more than two nations at independence, since it's very big and bigger than it ever was before the British came along as the greatest unifying force in Indian history. The fact that right now it is ruled by a weird ethnonationalist movement that also jumps through a lot of weird hoops to define a sort of pan-national identity among a lot of traditionally unrelated groups (and as a consequence comes down even harder on the groups it specifically excludes from its conception of its identity) speaks to the problems with trying to get that many people all on the same page.
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I mean India is a federation of 28 states. Now if all those states were independent it would be treated more like a continent like Europe. Don't know enough about politics to know if that would be remotely workable. Probably would turn out about as well as if every state in America became independent (at least those all speak the same language)
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Phlegmish posted:India's kind of forced to do it that way. Uttar Pradesh, at 241 million, is the most populous subnational entity in the world. If it were independent, it would rank as the world's fifth-largest country. Why are there so many pondicherries?
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FreudianSlippers posted:I mean India is a federation of 28 states. States rights lol
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OwlFancier posted:Why are there so many pondicherries? It means New Town basically, so lots of opportunities for reuse.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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OwlFancier posted:Why are there so many pondicherries? 
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Like how there's a bunch of places from Palestine through Türkiye to especially Greece called Neapolis. Alexander wept when he heard Anaxarchus discourse about an infinite number of worlds, and when his friends inquired what ailed him, "Is it not worthy of tears," he said, "that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we can never visit each one, point everywhere, and shout 'new place' at things?"
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FreudianSlippers posted:I mean India is a federation of 28 states. There's a lot of differences between areas of India: language, physical geography, local religious and political traditions, impact of Islam, but there's a lot of similiarities: Hinduism, languages of only two different families, shared colonial history, a historical concept of "India". If you flip the perspective, you could easily see Europe as one big state: most of the languages are basically the same, there's really only one religion, political histories of most areas are very similar, there's a very distinct kind of patriotic racism around the concept of "Europe". Nations are fake.
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 “America according to Algerian school books”
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When u divide ur country into major economic areas but Mexico still be succin
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Texas almost looks about the right shape if you hold your phone at an angle.
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It is rather remarkable that there are few major secessionist movements outside of Kashmir, given India's incredible diversity. It's had to make a lot of concessions to get there, though. Not only do the states have far-reaching autonomy, the only reason that English is still a widely used official language in India, despite being a legacy of colonialism, is to appease the fears of non-Hindi speakers, particularly in the Dravidian parts of the country, and particularly in Tamil Nadu. When Hindi was set to become the sole official language of India in 1965, after a transitional period where it was co-official with English, there was widespread rioting and unrest in Tamil Nadu, until the central government promised to maintain the use of English indefinitely. OwlFancier posted:Why are there so many pondicherries? All of those places belong to the same union territory of Puducherry...somehow  They're all former French colonial possessions.
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There's marxist rebels in the east. Though I guess I don't know if they're secessionist or not.
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I don't think the Maoists are secessionists per se, but the people in the mountains of Nagaland where like what the gently caress is an "India" get out of here for a long time
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What the gently caress is this?
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Everyone giving the Norse and Columbus credit for reaching the Americas, but it's actually embarrassing that it took that long considering how close it is to Europe
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Norse all got crushed when Greenland crashed into them, so that's understandable.
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Ras Het posted:There's a lot of differences between areas of India: language, physical geography, local religious and political traditions, impact of Islam, but there's a lot of similiarities: Hinduism, languages of only two different families, shared colonial history, a historical concept of "India". If you flip the perspective, you could easily see Europe as one big state: most of the languages are basically the same, there's really only one religion, political histories of most areas are very similar, there's a very distinct kind of patriotic racism around the concept of "Europe". Nations are fake. There really just being one religion in India is a fairly controversial assertion.
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SlothfulCobra posted:There really just being one religion in India is a fairly controversial assertion. I don't think I said that
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Platystemon posted:
texas region needs to be a little bigger, especially in the west otherwise, this is pretty accurate
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SlothfulCobra posted:I have some vague ideas that India probably should've been divided into more than two nations at independence, since it's very big and bigger than it ever was before the British came along as the greatest unifying force in Indian history. Curiously enough, it was the smaller country Pakistan that split a few decades after independence instead. I think it was in the 70s when East Pakistan broke off from the rest of the country and renamed itself Bangladesh. The name change probably came as a relief to know-it-alls and trivia champions everywhere, since they would no longer have to fight the urge to shout about how "that name makes no sense" any time East Pakistan was mentioned in the news. The name "Pakistan" is fairly new, and most of the letters before -stan represent areas in northwest India (or more accurately British India before partition). Punjab, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Sindh. I think i have read both that -stan was chosen to represent Baluchistan and that it's just the usual ending to country names in Persian, so I don't know about that one. All this to say that East Pakistan was a strange name for a country on the Bay of Bengal to say the least. Not many country names manage to be unsuitable both as a whole and when dissected letter by letter.
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To be fair, having a geographically discontinuous country, separated by a not quite friendly neighbour isn't exactly ideal, especially before the internet and with no historical sense of togetherness. (I don't know when hostilities between India and Pakistan began, but I assume it's about as old as the countries).
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What was the rationale behind making Bangladesh part of Pakistan and not having them just be two separate countries
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Badger of Basra posted:What was the rationale behind making Bangladesh part of Pakistan and not having them just be two separate countries Religion. The same reason India and Pakistan aren't the same country.
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Also the fact that India is sort of inherently defined by it's hinduness also raises the thorny issue of what hinduism really is given that it doesn't fit neatly into the classification of religions that developed in the west following the rise of christianity and islam. Different regions and groups have their own favoured gods and myths and cosmographies that don't always fit that neatly together but everyone kind of just agrees are aspects of other hindu gods and beliefs so everyone can all just get along. It's a bit more like the hellenistic view of religion where you just decide that the egyptian god you've just come across is actually hermes in different clothes than normal so everyone can just keep worshiping and not cause any problems. e: One of my favourite examples of this is Jagannath who looks nothing like other hindu gods, being essentially a log with a face, and no one is really sure exactly on it's origins. But it is accepted as either a god in it's own right or an avatar of various other gods. One of the theories is that it was a popular local god adopted by the indo-aryans, and that it might have been adopted more than once which is why it's role and identity is so confused. a pipe smoking dog fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 24, 2024 |
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Also the fact that India is sort of inherently defined by it's hinduness also raises the thorny issue of what hinduism really is given that it doesn't fit neatly into the classification of religions that developed in the west following the rise of christianity and islam. Different regions and groups have their own favoured gods and myths and cosmographies that don't always fit that neatly together but everyone kind of just agrees are aspects of other hindu gods and beliefs so everyone can all just get along. It's a bit more like the hellenistic view of religion where you just decide that the egyptian god you've just come across is actually hermes in different clothes than normal so everyone can just keep worshiping and not cause any problems. Also, even after the India-Pakistan split along religious there are many, many muslims living in India. In fact, there are more muslims in India than in any other country in the world, save for Indonesia and Pakistan.
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Offler posted:Also, even after the India-Pakistan split along religious there are many, many muslims living in India. In fact, there are more muslims in India than in any other country in the world, save for Indonesia and Pakistan. Yeah, and also the Jains, and Sikhs, and Buddhists, and Indian Christians of various stripes. India being Hindu kind of falls down at first hurdle. Partition was dumb, nationalism is fake. I blame the British.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I blame the British. as a general rule this is a pretty solid plan
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