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^^ also if it triggers on the ante 8 boss you get the win regardless, it got me the win on one of the higher stakes.
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Color Printer posted:How do wild cards interact with that one joker that wants you to hold onto only spades and clubs (blackboard I think)? It counts wild cards as a spade or club.
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 Hooray, broke into Black Stakes. Also, this deck was running on fumes by the end: unlike most decks where I could at least play them to Ante 10 minimum, this one immediately tripped and fell on its rear the instant after I got the win. Jossar fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Feb 24, 2024 |
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Hackan Slash posted:Orange Stake is just an unfun difficulty jump Booster packs cost one more dollar PER STAKE I kind of see the logic. I find that when you hit purple stake there's a lot of pressure to use econ jokers sparingly and just coast on interest, then orange stake says "ok, now do it again but this time you need to squeeze econ jokers back in if you want to be able to buy anything." Still pretty unfun though.
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  I feel like this is still counting my demo stats for the Jokers, just for how MUCH of a lead Spare pants has.
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I wonder how far the tutorial cards can go for unlocks/discoveries/achievements. The funny thing about seeds is that they'll always have the same card patterns, store patterns, random effect patterns (i.e. the Ancient Joker will follow the same sequence of boosted suits) - so you can actually plan everything in advance and perfectly reproduce a gameplan. This normally wouldn't matter to the question, because seeded runs done from the menu option disables all that, except that the first-run tutorial acts on unseeded rules, and still always uses the TUTORIAL seed. And if you remove your system's save files (and don't load cloud saves, where applicable), you'll get the first-run tutorial again. Mostly an academic question, you're always locked into the default Red Deck/White Stake when you start from scratch, and the only locked items that can possibly show up are the ones you can unlock during the run itself, but since everything's otherwise set in stone, there's got to be an predictably optimal way to run it.
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How does the -1 ante voucher work and why would I pick it?
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AlphaKeny1 posted:How does the -1 ante voucher work and why would I pick it? Drops your Ante counter by one, effectively letting you play the Ante you just did a second, additional time, albeit with different Tags/Boss Blind. It's a panic button/tool to try and ramp up your engine more in case you're worried you're going to flub the next Ante or want to try and set up for a truly monstrous post-game. For example, if you're doing Midas/Vampire, you get several more rounds easily of chumpable blinds in which to feed Vampire extra multiplier. But given that you lose a hand for it, it's a pretty tough judgment call and I wouldn't do it in most cases. Also, since I'm doing this new post anyway,  Per the holy poopacy's recommendations, tried out the Painted Deck. Was a fun variant on the formula and let me get my "beat the game with 4 jokers" unlock. Seems really limited in the long tail of Endless unless you get a ton of Negative Jokers, but I was also running around with Chicot, so could very well be doable.  Also, this run had a silly poker hand distribution. Jossar fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Feb 24, 2024 |
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Ooh thanks, looks like I was right to pretty much avoid it whenever I saw it in most cases. I've been trying to grind a win with black deck and it hurts seeing that voucher.
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I like picking it up no matter what because I get ot play the game more, yay more game!
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I would say the -1 ante is worth getting anytime that you're running a build that isn't complete enough to win the run or that scales with hands played. 3 hands after an extra ante to improve your poo poo should be stronger than 4 without it.
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-1 ante is more powerful than it seems. If you're able to consistently beat an ante already, it's more opportunities for tags, money and shops. If you're not able to beat an ante consistently, you'd probably have more difficulty with the next ante and need those opportunities. Still, -1 hand is also more significant of a downside than it might seem. It's not a snap pick but it should be considered. I think my favorite deck is no face cards. I've found the base chip value of cards not to matter past the early game so a little more difficulty at first for a lot more consistency throughout is well worth it. EDIT: haven't unlocked all the decks yet though
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I nearly always pick the -ante vouchers, it winds up being a lot of extra opportunities to grow your run, unless you're black deck at which point only having 2 hands is a great way to die to The Water.
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i always take the -1 ante, no exceptions. three more rounds of income, shop restocks, and booster cards and an extra voucher will always outweigh the hand and discard slots you lose.
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me: this painted run is going ok but I'm going to need some extra oomph to clear the boss, I hope a negative joker comes up soon the game:  Nihilarian posted:I think my favorite deck is no face cards. I've found the base chip value of cards not to matter past the early game so a little more difficulty at first for a lot more consistency throughout is well worth it. Yeah, I love abandoned deck. I haven't gotten back to it since I first unlocked it and took it for a spin but I'm looking forward to it.
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Do you stop getting offered negatives after you buy two? I've never gotten 3+ negatives on a normal deck.
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The boss that only lets you play 1 hand is hosed. An actual war crime.
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smoobles posted:The boss that only lets you play 1 hand is hosed. An actual war crime. The first and only time I ran into it I beat it. Fully prepared to curse its existence cause that was obscenely lucky.
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Am I weird for consistently forgetting that aces aren't face cards?
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So fun thing about the -1 Ante vouchers they uh... originally had no downside attached. They just took the Ante back 1 or 2 with the second voucher. Now they make you lose a hand/discard respectively. That said on higher difficulties you may need to use the vouchers just to give you more time. I think another thing to consider is a redone ante is 2 more tags you can pick up, 2 more stores, and 2 more chances to ramp. At purple and above you may want that just to handle the increased scaling.Billy Gnosis posted:Am I weird for consistently forgetting that aces aren't face cards? Another fun fact, Ace cards used to not only give exactly the same chips as Face cards, they also weren't considered "Odd" cards for the cases of cards that care about the numerics of existing cards. Closed Beta Balatro was a hilarious wild west. One deck from the old beta that has not returned was the Platinum deck, which let you start with a Joker.
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Is there some special unlock condition for 'negative' jokers in the shop? I almost never come across them in my runs and not sure if it's just cause they are meant to be super rare or if I'm missing something.
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roffles posted:Is there some special unlock condition for 'negative' jokers in the shop? I almost never come across them in my runs and not sure if it's just cause they are meant to be super rare or if I'm missing something. Nope, just random chance. Also, hilarious erratic roll. 
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roffles posted:Is there some special unlock condition for 'negative' jokers in the shop? I almost never come across them in my runs and not sure if it's just cause they are meant to be super rare or if I'm missing something. They're very rare, pretty sure they're rarer than holo/foil/polychrome. If you see a tag offered for a guaranteed negative joker then you should jump on it unless you are 100% sure you need another shop to survive the fight after it. There's also a spectral card that adds negative to a random joker at a cost of permanent -1 hand size and this one is a bit more of a tradeoff but is often worth it.
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Just popping in to mention that jokers like "The Duo" will also trigger on two pair/full house/ANYTHING that includes a scoring pair. I thought it was just a meh "2x to pairs" until I saw that. Edit: 3 of a kind also counts I guess.
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Just beat the orange stake and unlocked the erratic deck with the checkered deck! I'm gonna go back to beating the white stake with the remaining decks now, I need a bit of a breather.
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Like it or not, this is what peak performance looks like, ladies. First shop had the card that gives you three dollars and deletes the card if your first discard is only one card, and well, numbered cards can basically get hosed. By the end of that run, Erosion had +124 mult, and I had a 100% chance of playing the card my Idol joker pointed to that round. But that's only an X2 multiplier so deck topped out at ante 10 on red stake. Fun though.
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BALATRO!!!!!
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Just had a fun Johnny Five Aces kinda run that revolved around stacking a negative Hologram joker and playing/discarding til I had my five aces and some kings to pop Baron on the last hand of a round. Very, very fun.
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I think it's kinda lame that you can have burgler and can't put a joker that adds discard to the right of it to cheat.
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I'm having a frustrating run of bad luck with the painted deck and most if it doesn't even have to do with having one less joker slot, the game's just not giving me anything lmao
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Does the Abandoned Deck actually make straights easier or am i imagining it?
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that's no face cards, right? a smaller range means easier straights
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:that's no face cards, right? a smaller range means easier straights Yeah, I don't have the statistics to prove it but I'm pretty sure that taking out 3/13 elements is going to improve your odds even with aces and 10s becoming strictly one-way.
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Color Printer posted:I'm having a frustrating run of bad luck with the painted deck and most if it doesn't even have to do with having one less joker slot, the game's just not giving me anything lmao the answer was, of course, to complain on the internet  not pictured: the foil photograph i had to sell for leaf
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I got brutalized by the black deck for about 20 runs before I beat it. The early game was just loving brutal every time
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