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DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

I know Ukraine is in deep poo poo because look how close Osprey Publishing came to saying Soviets Good (and we were just talking about Czechs fighting with the Red Army too):

Czechoslovak Armies 1939-1945

From April 1939 small groups of Czechoslovaks escaped to Poland to join the Polish Army and, in September 1939, formed the 1st Czechoslovak Infantry Division of the French Army. The Division fought well in the Battle of France in 1940 but was unable to avoid the defeat of its French and British allies. Ironically the German Panzer forces were largely equipped with Skoda Tanks requisitioned by the Germans in March 1939. Czechoslovak forces escaped to Great Britain but only had enough men to form a battalion for action in North Africa. Meanwhile the 1st Czechoslovak Mixed Brigade trained in Great Britain from August 1940 to August 1944, when it finally saw action in the D-Day forces.

Czechoslovak Army troops in Western Europe enjoyed a good military reputation but there were simply too few of them to make a strong tactical impact on the battlefield. Czechoslovak volunteers in the Royal Air Force are however fondly remembered in the Czech Republic today with Sergeant Josef František as the top RAF ace during the Battle of Britain. There is no explanation for the fact that there were no Czechoslovak troops in the 10th (Interallied) Commando force but the Czechoslovaks contributed a large number of parachutists for SOE operations in Bohemia-Moravia, culminating in Operation Anthropoid - the assassination of SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich in June 1942, which was however judged counterproductive due to the large number of reprisals exacted by the Germans.

Many Czechoslovak Army officers who were unable, or unwilling, to continue resistance abroad joined resistance organizations in Bohemia-Moravia, but these units were heavily penetrated by German security forces and were not as effective as they might have been. The official Bohemia-Moravian force, the Government Army, enjoyed publicity out of all proportion to its military value, which was deliberately kept at a modest level by the Germans.

Czechoslovak forces on the Eastern Front were far more effective, as they enjoyed the support of the Red Army and were able to recruit respectable numbers of replacement troops from Czechoslovak, Slovak and Rusyn communities in the Soviet Union as well as captured Slovak Army troops. In May 1944 these troops were reorganized as the 1st Czechoslovak Corps in the USSR and fought creditably in August 1944 in the unsuccessful Slovak Insurrection and the hard-fought Battle of Dukla Pass, which allowed Czechoslovak forces to enter Czechoslovakia and liberate the homeland in May 1945. Meanwhile United States Forces under General Patton, which aimed to occupy Prague and perhaps claim Czechoslovakia for the Western Allies, were ordered by General Eisenhower to evacuate Bohemia-Moravia and turn Czechoslovakia over to the Red Army. Meanwhile heavy fighting continued in Prague until 11th May 1945.

After the end of hostilities the Czechoslovak population, disillusioned at the failure of the Western Allies to support them at Munich in 1938, turned to the Soviet Union for support, only to lose their democratic freedoms in the Communist coup d’état of February 1948. Many Czechoslovak servicemen who had fought with the Western Allies in World War II were imprisoned and it was not until 29th December 1989, when democratic Czechoslovakia was restored, that they were rehabilitated. Czechoslovakia had paid a heavy price for Munich.

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DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

How did I not know there was a Beneath the Med movie (show?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-AR_gPVJU

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Xcom 2 long war being the epic lib revolution game is kinda charming in retrospect.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

How did I not know there was a Beneath the Med movie (show?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-AR_gPVJU

"1914 Shells of Fury" is still available on Gamersgate, if you want to get your WWI submarine sim on, though I think it's Atlantic-only

(I used to play it, I could hardly believe it's still available legally)

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGxGVU1yXFk

space opera grog warship simulator now expanding to turn based total war mode with grog characteristics

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Danann posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGxGVU1yXFk

space opera grog warship simulator now expanding to turn based total war mode with grog characteristics

Space game developed by a Navy officer is coming along p awesomely

Danann
Aug 4, 2013







:sickos:

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Danann posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGxGVU1yXFk

space opera grog warship simulator now expanding to turn based total war mode with grog characteristics

someone putting out "space opera" better sell me on how much political economy they are putting in their not-Dune

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Hmm everyone knows producing 250mm shells is impossible. I want science fiction, not science fantasy.

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022


got me 50 ounces out a bird in this bitch

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Space game developed by a Navy officer is coming along p awesomely

its a really fun game

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Hmm everyone knows producing 250mm shells is impossible. I want science fiction, not science fantasy.

if you have faster than light travel you can have 320mm shells for your earthsplitter artillery

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

dead gay comedy forums posted:

if you have faster than light travel you can have 320mm shells for your earthsplitter artillery

yeah the actual fantasy part is the part where you can order factories to just make stuff that you need instead of having to buy the ammo mk. 10 from stellar raytheon llc that costs more for the same performance

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022


got me 50 ounces out a bird in this bitch

Danann posted:

yeah the actual fantasy part is the part where you can order factories to just make stuff that you need instead of having to buy the ammo mk. 10 from stellar raytheon llc that costs more for the same performance

the other factions an industrial separatist group flying makeshift combat ships made from old commercial mining/cargo ships and retired naval stuff so they'll be able to get things at least

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Danann posted:

yeah the actual fantasy part is the part where you can order factories to just make stuff that you need instead of having to buy the ammo mk. 10 from stellar raytheon llc that costs more for the same performance

Forge Worlds from 40k but it's planets full of lawyers and consultants.

```
---+++ ADEPTUS MECHANICUS FORGE WORLD TERMINAL +++---
---+++ INITIATING CONNECTION +++---
---+++ FORGE WORLD: NOVUS-INDUSTRIA +++---
---+++ AWAITING COMMAND +++---
+++ ERROR +++ ERROR +++ ERROR +++
+++ SIGNAL INTERRUPTED BY SACRED MACHINE SPIRITS +++

+++ BEGIN TRANSMISSION +++

> QUERY: PRODUCTION STATUS

+++ PRODUCTION STATUS: SUSPENDED +++
+++ CURRENT OPERATIONS: FINANCIAL RESTRUCTURING +++

+++ ALERT: INCOMING TRANSMISSION FROM MARS +++

> OPEN TRANSMISSION

---+++ TRANSMISSION CORRUPTED +++---
... DIVERTING FUNDS TO STOCK BUYBACK INITIATIVE FOR MAXIMUM SHAREHOLDER DIVINITY ...
... ENGAGING CONSULTANTS FROM THE ORDER OF THE GOLDEN PARACHUTE ...
... DONATIONS TO HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR FAVORABLE LEGISLATION ALIGNMENT ...

+++ WARNING +++ WARNING +++ WARNING +++
+++ UNAUTHORIZED THOUGHT DETECTED: "PRODUCTION EFFICIENCY" +++
+++ REMEMBER: EFFICIENCY IS SECOND TO PROFIT IN THE EYES OF THE OMNISSIAH +++

> QUERY: MILITARY GOODS UPDATE

... INTEGRATING PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE INTO ALL MUNITIONS: USER LICENSE AGREEMENT REQUIRED FOR EACH USE ...
... PATENT ENFORCEMENT SQUADS DEPLOYED TO SUPPRESS HERETICAL REPRODUCTION OF SACRED MECHANISMS ...
... INITIATING EXCLUSIVE CONTRACTS WITH OFF-WORLD DEFENSE CONTRACTORS ...

+++ ERROR +++ ERROR +++ ERROR +++
+++ SIGNAL LOST: ATTEMPTING TO RECOVER +++

---+++ RECOVERED MESSAGE FRAGMENT +++---
... FOR THE GLORY OF THE OMNISSIAH, WE HAVE SACRIFICED PRODUCTIVITY AT THE ALTAR OF PERPETUAL MONETIZATION ...

+++ END TRANSMISSION +++
---+++ CONNECTION TERMINATED +++---
---+++ PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH AND HIS HOLY PROFITS +++---
```

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 20:32 on Feb 24, 2024

Rodney The Yam II
Mar 3, 2007




2000 army points of Adeptus Merchanticus and all you can field is a squad of hefty Necromundans, with the other 1800 points going to the offplanet Consultaria Legions

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Wait, does Nebulous have some campaign now with economy poo poo?

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

oh no

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:

Wait, does Nebulous have some campaign now with economy poo poo?

wip for now but yeah it's going to have a campaign with economy stuff

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024


Oh yes:

"AMERICAN
America’s military power, political will, and industrial might has thrust the United States onto the front of the world stage. They lead the free world against the forces of communism led by the Soviet Union. Liberators of Western Europe in World War II, they hold high the torch of freedom, casting a harsh light on the shadows of Stalin’s red east. With the power of their military, they will stop the encroachment of communism into the rest of the world and throw it back where they can.

They can back this up with proven fighting vehicles like the M26 Pershing tank, M4 “Easy Eight” Sherman tank, Chaffee light tank, and M36 “Jackson” tank destroyer. American industry has not been idle and have produced powerful new designs like the T28 assault tanks, and T29 and T30 heavy tanks."

Oh, well that's the in-universe point of view, surely? The Soviet one must talk about defending the revolution and liberating the people of Europe?

"SOVIET
The Soviets look to preserve their post-war legacy by entrenching Communist rule across Eastern Europe. They ensue this with a strong military presence and total control over their client nations ruling communist party. They field the best of their Great Patriotic War equipment like the T-34/85 medium tank, SU-100 Tank-killer, and IS-2 heavy breakthrough tank. One top of this superior Soviet industry has produced the ground-breaking T-54-1 medium tank and the powerful IS-3 heavy tank."

:thunk:

"BRITISH
The British are intent on ensuring their place at the table of global politics in a post-war world. They lend their military strength to establishing the balance of power in Europe. Their tank forces can call on World War II veterans like the Cromwell, Comet, and Archer self-propelled gun. These are backed up by brand new powerful and innovative designs in the form of the Centurion universal tank and the Tortoise super-heavy assault gun."

"GERMAN
A rebuilding democratic Germany looks to form new alliances and :siren: once more become the master of its own destiny :siren:. Their military is rebuilding after the devastation of World War II, taking advantage of old and new designs left behind by the previous regime. The field tried and tested tanks such as the Tiger I, Tiger II, and Panther, as well as further developments like the Panther (8.8cm) and new designs such as the behemoth Maus super-heavy tank."

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

i was once worried that this game was gonna just fall back on pvp multiplayer to avoid having to have some depth, thank god the dev is a true dork and is going to make this my dream game

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Oh yes:

"AMERICAN
America’s military power, political will, and industrial might has thrust the United States onto the front of the world stage. They lead the free world against the forces of communism led by the Soviet Union. Liberators of Western Europe in World War II, they hold high the torch of freedom, casting a harsh light on the shadows of Stalin’s red east. With the power of their military, they will stop the encroachment of communism into the rest of the world and throw it back where they can.

They can back this up with proven fighting vehicles like the M26 Pershing tank, M4 “Easy Eight” Sherman tank, Chaffee light tank, and M36 “Jackson” tank destroyer. American industry has not been idle and have produced powerful new designs like the T28 assault tanks, and T29 and T30 heavy tanks."

Oh, well that's the in-universe point of view, surely? The Soviet one must talk about defending the revolution and liberating the people of Europe?

"SOVIET
The Soviets look to preserve their post-war legacy by entrenching Communist rule across Eastern Europe. They ensue this with a strong military presence and total control over their client nations ruling communist party. They field the best of their Great Patriotic War equipment like the T-34/85 medium tank, SU-100 Tank-killer, and IS-2 heavy breakthrough tank. One top of this superior Soviet industry has produced the ground-breaking T-54-1 medium tank and the powerful IS-3 heavy tank."

:thunk:

"BRITISH
The British are intent on ensuring their place at the table of global politics in a post-war world. They lend their military strength to establishing the balance of power in Europe. Their tank forces can call on World War II veterans like the Cromwell, Comet, and Archer self-propelled gun. These are backed up by brand new powerful and innovative designs in the form of the Centurion universal tank and the Tortoise super-heavy assault gun."

"GERMAN
A rebuilding democratic Germany looks to form new alliances and :siren: once more become the master of its own destiny :siren:. Their military is rebuilding after the devastation of World War II, taking advantage of old and new designs left behind by the previous regime. The field tried and tested tanks such as the Tiger I, Tiger II, and Panther, as well as further developments like the Panther (8.8cm) and new designs such as the behemoth Maus super-heavy tank."

There's more thought, logic, and material reality given to Star Wars lore than this poo poo. For example, they only had like 6 M26 Pershings in the ETO, barely before the end in May because of stuff like weight, teething problems, and having to supply another tank model/gun type with a limited convoy capacity. Or why is Germany using a super heavy tank that it probably can't afford to use and won't be compatible with US/British doctrine?!

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022


got me 50 ounces out a bird in this bitch

Regarde Aduck posted:

i was once worried that this game was gonna just fall back on pvp multiplayer to avoid having to have some depth, thank god the dev is a true dork and is going to make this my dream game

:hai:
now it just needs a workers & resources base building system

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
How does it compare to Aurora4X

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
also, as always, the Soviets are the ones who started it, even though in real life we know the Brits and Americans were giving serious consideration to the idea of immediately starting WW3 and the Soviets very much were not

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Mister Bates posted:

also, as always, the Soviets are the ones who started it, even though in real life we know the Brits and Americans were giving serious consideration to the idea of immediately starting WW3 and the Soviets very much were not

Because Soviets Bad, Nazi paper tanks Cool, seems to be the underlying imperative here

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Warthunder the board game would be more coherent imo.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Is there a WW3: Team Yankee specific thread anywhere here? I just ordered the T-72 battalion starter set, the Warsaw Pact book, and the East German markers/cards from my local gaming store. Sounds like the group that plays is pretty chill plus there's an influx of new players to the game so everyone is learning as they go.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


BadOptics posted:

Is there a WW3: Team Yankee specific thread anywhere here? I just ordered the T-72 battalion starter set, the Warsaw Pact book, and the East German markers/cards from my local gaming store. Sounds like the group that plays is pretty chill plus there's an influx of new players to the game so everyone is learning as they go.
TradGames has an historicals minis thread which is probably your best bet: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3248082

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

BadOptics posted:

Is there a WW3: Team Yankee specific thread anywhere here? I just ordered the T-72 battalion starter set, the Warsaw Pact book, and the East German markers/cards from my local gaming store. Sounds like the group that plays is pretty chill plus there's an influx of new players to the game so everyone is learning as they go.

If you ain't playing Canadian, you ain't overpaying for miniatures

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Oh yes:

"AMERICAN
America’s military power, political will, and industrial might has thrust the United States onto the front of the world stage. They lead the free world against the forces of communism led by the Soviet Union. Liberators of Western Europe in World War II, they hold high the torch of freedom, casting a harsh light on the shadows of Stalin’s red east. With the power of their military, they will stop the encroachment of communism into the rest of the world and throw it back where they can.

They can back this up with proven fighting vehicles like the M26 Pershing tank, M4 “Easy Eight” Sherman tank, Chaffee light tank, and M36 “Jackson” tank destroyer. American industry has not been idle and have produced powerful new designs like the T28 assault tanks, and T29 and T30 heavy tanks."

Oh, well that's the in-universe point of view, surely? The Soviet one must talk about defending the revolution and liberating the people of Europe?

"SOVIET
The Soviets look to preserve their post-war legacy by entrenching Communist rule across Eastern Europe. They ensue this with a strong military presence and total control over their client nations ruling communist party. They field the best of their Great Patriotic War equipment like the T-34/85 medium tank, SU-100 Tank-killer, and IS-2 heavy breakthrough tank. One top of this superior Soviet industry has produced the ground-breaking T-54-1 medium tank and the powerful IS-3 heavy tank."

:thunk:

"BRITISH
The British are intent on ensuring their place at the table of global politics in a post-war world. They lend their military strength to establishing the balance of power in Europe. Their tank forces can call on World War II veterans like the Cromwell, Comet, and Archer self-propelled gun. These are backed up by brand new powerful and innovative designs in the form of the Centurion universal tank and the Tortoise super-heavy assault gun."

"GERMAN
A rebuilding democratic Germany looks to form new alliances and :siren: once more become the master of its own destiny :siren:. Their military is rebuilding after the devastation of World War II, taking advantage of old and new designs left behind by the previous regime. The field tried and tested tanks such as the Tiger I, Tiger II, and Panther, as well as further developments like the Panther (8.8cm) and new designs such as the behemoth Maus super-heavy tank."

Jesus Christ, it's even worse than I thought it was going to be

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Tekopo posted:

TradGames has an historicals minis thread which is probably your best bet: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3248082

I'm declaring this thread open to tabletop miniatures games

On whose authority? Shut up

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

"GERMAN
A rebuilding democratic Germany looks to form new alliances and :siren: once more become the master of its own destiny :siren:. Their military is rebuilding after the devastation of World War II, taking advantage of old and new designs left behind by the previous regime. The field tried and tested tanks such as the Tiger I, Tiger II, and Panther, as well as further developments like the Panther (8.8cm) and new designs such as the behemoth Maus super-heavy tank."

quote:

The sun on the meadow is summery warm. The stag in the forest runs free.
But gather together to greet the storm, tomorrow belongs to me.
The branch of the Linden is leafy and green, the Rhine gives its gold to the sea.
But somewhere a glory awaits unseen. Tomorrow belongs to me.
The babe in his cradle is closing his eyes, the blossom embraces the bee.
But soon there's a whisper "Arise, arise", tomorrow belongs to me.
Oh, Fatherland, Fatherland, show us a sign your children have waited to see.
The morning will come when the world is mine. Tomorrow belongs, tomorrow belongs, tomorrow belongs to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUctFu46_c

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Regarde Aduck posted:

i was once worried that this game was gonna just fall back on pvp multiplayer to avoid having to have some depth, thank god the dev is a true dork and is going to make this my dream game

Whilst waiting for more content (not touched it in a few months), I got really into Children Of A Dead Earth which does scratch an itch that may involve Newtonian mechanics and railguns.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
It's impressive that a immediate post-WW2 Germany can build an army to fight the Soviets what with the famine and all.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

BadOptics posted:

Is there a WW3: Team Yankee specific thread anywhere here? I just ordered the T-72 battalion starter set, the Warsaw Pact book, and the East German markers/cards from my local gaming store. Sounds like the group that plays is pretty chill plus there's an influx of new players to the game so everyone is learning as they go.

Did they make a miniatures game based on a book by our very own handsome ralph??

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:

Whilst waiting for more content (not touched it in a few months), I got really into Children Of A Dead Earth which does scratch an itch that may involve Newtonian mechanics and railguns.

Oh yeah I got this the moment it released and loved it. Got some more out of it with lots of dumb mods. Shame the guy doesn't seem interested in making a sequel.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Can one of the game system heads explain the difference between MMP’s:

Tactical Combat Series
Standard Combat Series
Battalion Combat Series
Operational Combat Series
Grand Tactical Series
Advanced Squad Leader

and Avalanche Press’ Panzer Grenadier?

I was asked to playtest a game being developed as a teaching tool, then write a conference paper about the pedegogy, and those are in the list of inspirations.

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 20:15 on Feb 25, 2024

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Orange Devil posted:

It's impressive that a immediate post-WW2 Germany can build an army to fight the Soviets what with the famine and all.

Men with swords don't starve (first)

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Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Can one of the game system heads explain the difference between MMP’s:

Tactical Combat Series
Standard Combat Series
Battalion Combat Series
Operational Combat Series
Grand Tactical Series
Advanced Squad Leader

and Avalanche Press’ Panzer Grenadier?

I was asked to playtest a game being developed as a teaching tool, then write a conference paper about the pedegogy, and those are in the list of inspirations.
SCS is a simplified, low-complexity operational combat game which I think is regiment-sized, focuses on entire campaigns, I don't think it's very good.
BCS is battalion-sized grand tactical/semi-operational, usually focused on single battles (think Kasserine etc), it's focus is more on maneuver warfare than anything else. No real supply tracking.
OCS is a regiment-sized operational combat game that focuses on entire campaigns, both in North Africa, post-Normandy and Eastern Front. It forces you to track supply and makes supply the most important aspect of the game.
GTS is a company-sized grand tactical game that focuses on artillery and suppression and mostly deals with weird/unusual battles and invasions, or last-stand type games. No real supply tracking.
ASL is a squad-sized tactical game that does nitty-gritty tactical combat and has about 1000 different expansions and scenarios.

Dunno about the others.

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