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Linux: Good
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FlapYoJacks posted:Linux: Good it has its moments
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Poopernickel posted:systemd-resolved can eat a dick though
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systemd-resolved is a nice cache also nice for blocking rebinding
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the last thing debugging stale dns entries needs is another loving cache
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Visions of Valerie posted:the last thing debugging stale dns entries needs is another loving cache
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ok, I changed the ip address in dns so let’s
wait, what the gently caress? why didn’t it refresh? let’s check resolv.conf and trace the path of how these queries get resolved gently caress, systemd again!
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also, systemd-resolved messes up vpn configurations because it doesn’t consult the vpn’s dns server to resolve anything if at any point it fails to reach it (such as, for instance, the vpn is down and needs to be reconnected) so systemd-resolved has been nothing but a headache for me and it’s the first thing I disable if I encounter any dns issues on a desktop or server
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is interesting to learn that i am better at computers than people who know ed, seeing how i've never hosed one up bad enough to need it. lol if you haven’t broken an OS build also lol if you haven’t root-caused and fixed an OS build someone else has broken
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NihilCredo posted:"must be readable without a gui" doesn't imply "must be readable in an 80x25 console" on IBM PC derived platforms, 80×25 text mode is guaranteed to be available and usable by default at early boot on almost all hardware ever made that other than a Mac or similar workstation (e.g. Intergraph or Silicon Graphics NT workstations)
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spankmeister posted:cancer loving sucks. lost my dad to it. I poured myself a scotch before i read your post, but now I will cheers to you full recovery matti posted:hope you get well blanksystemdeamon hell yeah, here’s hoping BSD
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Progressive JPEG posted:my order of escalation is: the best thing about Lisp Machines is that Lisp is not just the default answer to each of these but a good answer to them
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nice, phoronix got a proper shout-out from gamersnexus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SxN7Ub5X4&t=1263s
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why is the label on the intel arc upside down? or i guess the pins could be. either way
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2028 will be the year of the systemd-kerneld desktop
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Beeftweeter posted:why is the label on the intel arc upside down? if its in the slot you're looking at that side with the "bottom" relative to the image towards the side panel of the case
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eschaton posted:the best thing about Lisp Machines is that Lisp is not just the default answer to each of these but a good answer to them if lisp was gonna happen as a general purpose tool, it would've happened already you've got emacs. and the dude who runs ycombinator getting rich.
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lisp at every level is not going to happen now, but i personally think systemd would have done well to look at that kind of system for inspiration. the kernel being a very tight low-level monolith is proven quite correct, but i do think it would have made more sense to make the userland piece of the system higher level, more dynamic and composable, rather than extending the kernel mindset up another level. something like systemd was unavoidable, but it is in some ways lower-level than the competitor systems designed a lot longer ago, which does not obviously make sense.
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simble posted:if its in the slot you're looking at that side with the "bottom" relative to the image towards the side panel of the case well yeah. but the label would still be upside down? e: i.e. it would be like this inserted, no? 
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bus bandwidth is important for gpus and orienting it that way makes loading gravity-assisted hth
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Beeftweeter posted:well yeah. but the label would still be upside down? thats what it would look like if you had a vertical mount pci-e extension cable type thing, but the majority will be mounting it directly into the board resulting in a horizontal mount. In that orientation the "top" of the card points towards the viewer with the pins seated in the board on the opposite side so it reads correctly
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Beeftweeter posted:well yeah. but the label would still be upside down?
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e: nvm
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mystes posted:Do you keep your desktop lying down rather than vertical? ooohh  Shaggar posted:thats what it would look like if you had a vertical mount pci-e extension cable type thing, but the majority will be mounting it directly into the board resulting in a horizontal mount. In that orientation the "top" of the card points towards the viewer with the pins seated in the board on the opposite side so it reads correctly yeah. brain fart, i guess thats what i get for posting right after waking up
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Beeftweeter posted:well yeah. but the label would still be upside down? no it looks like this 
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i am real pleased that intel seems to be sticking to the gpus, at least the software side keeps improving. intel might be a david to amd's goliath and both blips compared to nvidia (as far as the stock market is concerned anyway), but i do have some faith that they have a good collection of greybeards that cash still turn out good stuff.
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i mean, whole reason to post that is that i think it is rather bonkers. intel has a series of fuckups that has hurt them for a long time, but i think the basics of the company (and one of the basics being that it is the greatest friend linux has ever known) remain the same. nvidia owns the gpu compute space, but the amount of money in suppleanting cuda has now grown huge enough that it will almost certainly happen. e.g. intel arc just having been made first-class supported by pytorch.
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yeah, pretty big fan of clear linux over here it really does make relatively crappy hardware much more tolerable to use, let alone actually good hardware
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:lisp at every level is not going to happen now, but i personally think systemd would have done well to look at that kind of system for inspiration. the kernel being a very tight low-level monolith is proven quite correct, but i do think it would have made more sense to make the userland piece of the system higher level, more dynamic and composable, rather than extending the kernel mindset up another level. should've just used launchd
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah, pretty big fan of clear linux over here while i appreciate the spirit that is such a minimizing take on what intel has done in the linux space. like it is the one company that has reliably had vendor drivers for almost everything for 30 years, to a point that most linux nerds can immediately remember the two exceptions (and that's two exceptions from a company that has shipped roughly 9 billion pieces of hardware, standards, and reference platforms)
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:while i appreciate the spirit that is such a minimizing take on what intel has done in the linux space. like it is the one company that has reliably had vendor drivers for almost everything for 30 years, to a point that most linux nerds can immediately remember the two exceptions (and that's two exceptions from a company that has shipped roughly 9 billion pieces of hardware, standards, and reference platforms) oh, i didn't mean to be reductive, it just uses most of their optimized versions of e.g. python by default, which speeds things up quite a bit, allows things like the oneAPI suite to be installed easily, mostly uses hardware acceleration wherever possible, etc. you know, things that'd have to at the very least be configured on some other distro doesn't hurt that the chromebooks i've been running it on are basically intel reference designs, so yeah, the hardware is very well supported (except for that goddamned fingerprint reader. i'll get it to work someday  )
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basically what i meant is, if you want to see what intel's vision of a well-oiled linux distro is, install clear (or liveboot it or whatever) the difference really is palpable
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:while i appreciate the spirit that is such a minimizing take on what intel has done in the linux space. like it is the one company that has reliably had vendor drivers for almost everything for 30 years, to a point that most linux nerds can immediately remember the two exceptions (and that's two exceptions from a company that has shipped roughly 9 billion pieces of hardware, standards, and reference platforms) what are the two exceptions?
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i got a laptop and put linux on it., think im going to regret this
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shackleford posted:what are the two exceptions? powervr aaand.. xess?
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Tankakern posted:powervr aaand.. xess? powervr for sure, the second i think was really notable was the ipu6 webcam (very recent) which had intel platform laptops webcams just barely work on linux on launch. like, effort was made (in both cases), but it did not work out that well.
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