John Wick of Dogs posted:

Alabama Constitution has like 2000 amendments, they can trivially amend it(does require a ballot measure though)

snorch posted:

I can only hope that this abortion wedge they’ve been driving for decades like it’s some kind of infinite votes hack is the petard that will finally hoist them good and proper. That and leaning into all the rest of their regressive AM radio garbage.

Murdstone posted:

at that’ one of them recently stated’ quote

TulliusCicero posted:

I really think IVF is a bridge too far for them

Abortion has a lot of moral implications for people, even if you fully support it, almost everyone but absolute foaming at the mouth crazy don't give a gently caress about IVF.

Murdstone posted:

Hey doesn’t the government end this week?

snorch posted:

I can only hope that this abortion wedge they’ve been driving for decades like it’s some kind of infinite votes hack is the petard that will finally hoist them good and proper. That and leaning into all the rest of their regressive AM radio garbage.

TulliusCicero posted:

I really think IVF is a bridge too far for them

Abortion has a lot of moral implications for people, even if you fully support it, almost everyone but absolute foaming at the mouth crazy don't give a gently caress about IVF.

bobjr posted:

I think pre-Roe being overturned the GOP could run under “reasonable” restrictions and have it work out for them on some level, since they could lie and talk about all the late term abortions or other insane fake examples of women giving birth just to kill a baby, but with it gone it’s hard because even those examples they gave before aren’t good enough for them, and they really want to keep stepping on the rake

RVWinkle posted:

So if Democrats can successfully run on this issue then they don't have any motivation to fix it by legalizing abortion or whatever. Their best interest is to keep the laws as they are so they can keep on campaigning against it.

Harald posted:

I thought these were the people who want more babies, and yet they're against IVF?

RVWinkle posted:

So if Democrats can successfully run on this issue then they don't have any motivation to fix it by legalizing abortion or whatever. Their best interest is to keep the laws as they are so they can keep on campaigning against it.

Harald posted:

I thought these were the people who want more babies, and yet they're against IVF?

bobjr posted:

I think pre-Roe being overturned the GOP could run under “reasonable” restrictions and have it work out for them on some level, since they could lie and talk about all the late term abortions or other insane fake examples of women giving birth just to kill a baby, but with it gone it’s hard because even those examples they gave before aren’t good enough for them, and they really want to keep stepping on the rake

Nessus posted:

Then? Brunch.

fondue posted:

Still that he didn't get 60% in South Carolina

Nessus posted:

They want more white babies from white housewives in white neighborhoods

quote:

Perhaps the most troubling statement on the issue came a little later from Trump, asserting that he had been praised by Republican leaders for supporting IVF.

“A lot of politicians were very happy because they didn’t know how to respond to the decision that came down,” he said. “Now they all know how to respond.”

If true, those politicians and their supporters need a better education than what Trump imparted to them.

Republicans who support IVF are dead wrong. They’re playing with fire.

IVF is evil. It victimizes the most innocent, vulnerable children.

Every single one of these loud voices within the GOP —Trump, Lake, and others— are placing the desire of adults to have children over the right to life of the 93% of all embryos created through IVF who are destroyed.

Perhaps without thinking, perhaps without caring, they deny the humanity of these unborn children.

Trump’s emphatic message encouraging support for IVF was a strange, troubling tapestry woven of truths, unspoken truths, and lies.

His message was cleverly constructed to appeal to all who are pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-family, and pro-child. However, the “beautiful babies” created through IVF will have many of their siblings disposed of —aborted— as unnecessary medical byproducts of the IVF process.

When couples or individuals choose to create children using IVF, many more eggs are fertilized than necessary as an insurance policy in case first attempts at successful pregnancies fail.  Stored embryos deemed to be no longer necessary for the parents’ pursuit of a family — often numbering a dozen or more — are discarded as medical waste.

The IVF industry cannot survive without the killing of embryos. More to the point: the IVF industry cannot survive without the killing of 93% of children the process creates.

TulliusCicero posted:

I really think IVF is a bridge too far for them

Abortion has a lot of moral implications for people, even if you fully support it, almost everyone but absolute foaming at the mouth crazy don't give a gently caress about IVF.

Rod Hoofhearted posted:

That’s what IVF is tho

Nessus posted:

They want more white babies from white housewives in white neighborhoods

Nessus posted:

They want more white babies from white housewives in white neighborhoods

Rod Hoofhearted posted:

That’s what IVF is tho

ImpAtom posted:

The major thing is that there are no 'reasonable' restrictions when it comes to this, because nobody is getting abortions for fun. Any restriction you put on abortion is going to exclusively only going to impact people in bad situations. You can't really run on a 'middle ground' for abortion because either you're actively harming people with needless restrictions or you're carving out so many exceptions that it would make more sense just to make it legal.

Nessus posted:

Dems seem to at least periodically try to do some of what they claimed; Rs just cut taxes for the ultra-wealthy, appoint unqualified judges, and let the judges write the laws. Then? Brunch. Late-night pizza party

Murdstone posted:

You mean the correct solution is to leave it up to the woman and her doctor? Well why didn’t someone say this before?

Hollismason posted:

Government shutdown!

Hazo posted:

Had to edit some of this

PKMN Trainer Red posted:

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

loving this is the biggest anti abortion website

Batterypowered7 posted:

Mary was capable of parthenogenesis.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

loving this is the biggest anti abortion website