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American McGay posted:https://x.com/stephentotilo/status/1762576287313322326?s=46&t=36rNzOEGx40Ej2XR8t_CPw Ryujinx is better than Yuzu anyway.
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Valve released an official SteamDeck trailer showing Yuzu installed so yeah I’d say it’s probably on their radar.
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Youtubers have also gotten more and more brazen about it, when Linus Techtips is posting videos about it that puts it in a mainstream world that emulation usually doesn't get to. The Mac gaming (stop laughing) Youtuber Andrew Tsai's video about playing Crisis Core Remastered on Mac straight up showed him downloading the game off a pirate site and playing it in Yuzu. There are big verified Youtubers who were posting videos about PS5 hacks a few weeks back. Hell remember when Kotaku wrote a guide article on it the week Metroid Dread came out? A whole lot of people got pretty drunk on faux fight the power poo poo because they can't play literally every game ever made on their $3k gamer rig.
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njsykora posted:people got pretty drunk on faux fight the power poo poo because they can't play literally every game ever made on their $3k gamer rig. I think people just like playing games for free on the computer.
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Feb 27, 2024 23:16
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PLaying games for free is pretty freaking epic.
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Epic gives a game away for free every week, actually.
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Yuzu as an emulator project doesnt seem to strive for accuracy and full library compatibility so it can burn for all care
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why should youtubers cry and beg forgiveness for talking about emulating switch games
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Epic gives a game away for free every week, actually. They literally can’t give poo poo away.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Epic gives a game away for free every week, actually. This is why it is known as the "Epic" games store.
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Epic Fail store lol
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Epic Fail store lol 
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Tim Weenie
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Valve has had too much power for too long. Its time for gamers to rise up and make an EPIC last stand 
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Epic Fail store lol But enough about the online storefront for your posts!
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Endorph posted:why should youtubers cry and beg forgiveness for talking about emulating switch games For impugning the dignity of Miyamoto
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Lol classic
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Endorph posted:why should youtubers cry and beg forgiveness for talking about emulating switch games Likes and subscribes
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njsykora posted:Youtubers have also gotten more and more brazen about it, when Linus Techtips is posting videos about it that puts it in a mainstream world that emulation usually doesn't get to. The Mac gaming (stop laughing) Youtuber Andrew Tsai's video about playing Crisis Core Remastered on Mac straight up showed him downloading the game off a pirate site and playing it in Yuzu. There are big verified Youtubers who were posting videos about PS5 hacks a few weeks back. Hell remember when Kotaku wrote a guide article on it the week Metroid Dread came out? A whole lot of people got pretty drunk on faux fight the power poo poo because they can't play literally every game ever made on their $3k gamer rig.
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prepping my ftw lawsuit against Plex because someone posted a youtube video once about adding your own media to it
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Checking their Patreon, what you get for $5 is early access to daily emulator releases, eg feature and compatibility fixes. Ah higher tier you get priority tech support on their discord, eg telling you how to get certain stuff running on your system. So when you consider them doing daily compatibility releases to make a certain game run good before that game has come out, and having people pay for those updates, that seems pretty cut and dry to me. Additionally yeah digital copies of a game are encrypted to a specific account, that's an agreement you've made when you buy a digital switch game. So if they are bypassing encryption to let that run anywhere, they are probably in trouble for that too. I think they're hosed.
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American McGay posted:https://x.com/stephentotilo/status/1762576287313322326?s=46&t=36rNzOEGx40Ej2XR8t_CPw thank god
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Seems bad, I don't like Nintendo going after emulator makers - emulation has always existed in a safe enough grey area. Though I've never used this one and would have no intention of pirating Switch games - I'm unclear what encryption bypassing the emulator itself is doing (I would have expected that that would be done by some separate, more illegal tool, that's normally how these sorts of things separate things, right?) If they were actively trying to profit then I think this was always going to happen and it's hard to feel too bad for them but I do think it's a bad sign and that emulation is a good thing in general.
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Don’t worry emulators for defunct consoles will always exist.
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Yuzu was doomed the moment they started taking cash to support their development.
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bleem was ruled legal and sold in stores, it just got killed via legal funds and retail shenanigans making money off an emulator is not illegal this mostly comes down to DMCA and encryption related stuff
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Nintendo's lawsuit is very, very clearly trying to have emulation ruled illegal. Also modding consoles and making backups.Nintendo posted:A video game emulator is a piece of software that allows users to unlawfully play pirated video games that were published only for a specific console on a general-purpose computing device. Nintendo posted:Yuzu unlawfully circumvents the technological measures on Nintendo Switch games and allows for the play of encrypted Nintendo Switch games on devices other than a Nintendo Switch. Yuzu does this by executing code necessary to defeat Nintendo’s many technological measures associated with its games, including code that decrypts the Nintendo Switch video game files immediately before and during runtime using an illegally-obtained copy of prod.keys (that ordinarily are secured on the Nintendo Switch). Users obtain the prod.keys either through unlawful websites or by unlawfully hacking a Nintendo Switch console. Nintendo posted:In effect, Yuzu turns general computing devices into tools for massive intellectual property infringement of Nintendo and others’ copyrighted works. Nintendo posted:Yuzu circumvents Nintendo’s technological measures on its games; thus, Defendant’s development and distribution of Yuzu constitutes unlawful trafficking in software primarily designed to circumvent technological measures, and the confirmed use of the emulator by Bunnei and other Yuzu developers as Defendant’s agents to decrypt and play Nintendo games constitutes unlawful circumvention. Nintendo posted:To get any game off a Nintendo Switch console and into the Yuzu environment to be played, therefore, Bunnei and other of Defendant’s agents must: (1) obtain the Nintendo Switch’s cryptographic keys (the prod.keys) from a hacked console, which violates Nintendo’s rights under the DMCA; and (2) make at least one unauthorized copy of a Nintendo Switch game, which, when the copied game is Nintendo’s, violates Plaintiff’s right of reproduction under the Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. §§ 106, 501 quote:Infringing copies of the game that circulated online were able to be played in Yuzu, and those copies were successfully downloaded from pirate websites over one million times before the game was published and made available for lawful purchase by Nintendo. Many of the pirate websites specifically noted the ability to play the game file in Yuzu. Defendant’s development and distribution of Yuzu to the public materially contributes to and induces those third parties to infringe the copyrights in Nintendo’s games. Defendant is thus secondarily liable for the infringement committed by the users to whom it distributes Yuzu.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Checking their Patreon, what you get for $5 is early access to daily emulator releases, eg feature and compatibility fixes. Ah higher tier you get priority tech support on their discord, eg telling you how to get certain stuff running on your system. they deliberately don't merge in fixes for unreleased games, whether you pay them or not. the whole week+ between when totk was dumped and when it was released officially was full of people on the piracy subreddits trying to come up with game patches that'd fix stuff because none of that was going to be fixed by the emulator team lines posted:Seems bad, I don't like Nintendo going after emulator makers - emulation has always existed in a safe enough grey area. Though I've never used this one and would have no intention of pirating Switch games - I'm unclear what encryption bypassing the emulator itself is doing (I would have expected that that would be done by some separate, more illegal tool, that's normally how these sorts of things separate things, right?) it depends on the console etc but basically the encryption is often left as-is. i think 3ds games can come either way but like wii discs are just dumped as they are and switch games are generally distributed encrypted. i assume it has to do with how the system works and how that has to be emulated
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Malloc Voidstar posted:If Nintendo wins there will be no other emulators, at least not any in the US. I assume they'd go after everyone else, too, obviously. Lol
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Nintendo coming for your illegal commodore 64 rom stash
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getting arrested for smuggling Raspberry Pis from across the border
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Nintendo is planning to break into all the houses in Whoville in order to steal Christmas.
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They’ll just release an emulator to emulate banned emulators.
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nintendo can choke on a fat chode
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open up its the video game police
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Goon legal experts ftw!
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well well well, what do we have here? controllers down, gamertags out fellas, this is a bust 
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:open up its the video game police I hear they’re playing project M and streaming it 2 doors down.
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The 7th Guest posted:bleem was ruled legal and sold in stores, it just got killed via legal funds and retail shenanigans I'm betting this is probably the reason why older emulators like ePSXe and stuff were like "don't ever ask us anything about how to actually obtain bios" and just let that poo poo float on the internet for other people to be smaller targets yuzu probably wouldn't even be in this situation if it didn't even touch the encryption/decryption stuff with a 10-foot poll and leave that to people handling the actual roms and poo poo to deal with
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