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I guess the strat will be to watch the OV version 2 times, and then as a palette cleanser the german voiced version (ugh).
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Feb 27, 2024 17:31
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I was rewatching it yesterday and thought maybe I wasn't wild about his Paul. Like it's passable while the real meat is the rest of the movie. But then I got to the Gom Jabbar scene and man he really sells that.
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Feb 27, 2024 18:40
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Man if Denis makes a good Dune Messiah down the line the series would have to be up there with LotR in terms of pulling off miraculous book-to-film adaptations.
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Feb 27, 2024 20:18
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Miraculous? LOTR is a very cinematic book, it's been adapted twice successfully
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Feb 27, 2024 20:31
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If you're a weak bitch like me and keep watching every new clip that comes in rather than wait till Friday, here's Irulan to Mohiam and figuring poo poo out, right quick. Spoilers, obv. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JRjW7Uvt8
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Feb 27, 2024 22:02
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MeinPanzer posted:Man if Denis makes a good Dune Messiah down the line the series would have to be up there with LotR in terms of pulling off miraculous book-to-film adaptations. He better go crazy designing the Tleilaxu.
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Feb 27, 2024 22:04
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Movie is rad.
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Feb 27, 2024 22:06
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Kart Barfunkel posted:He better go crazy designing the Tleilaxu. 3 kids in a trenchcoat.
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Feb 27, 2024 22:54
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May thy norf chorp an shorter
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Feb 28, 2024 01:48
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Kart Barfunkel posted:He better go crazy designing the Tleilaxu. Cast Kurtwood Smith just for the immortal line of “Bijaz, leave.”
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Feb 28, 2024 07:11
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jeeves posted:Cast Kurtwood Smith just for the immortal line of “Bijaz, leave.” 
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I can't remember, in the book does Feyd get a bene gesserit member pregnant? What becomes of that plot point?
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Feb 28, 2024 11:25
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deoju posted:I can't remember, in the book does Feyd get a bene gesserit member pregnant? What becomes of that plot point? yep, i can't remember what comes of it tho
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Feb 28, 2024 11:29
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MeinPanzer posted:Man if Denis makes a good Dune Messiah down the line the series would have to be up there with LotR in terms of pulling off miraculous book-to-film adaptations. Not to mention that every fantasy film since the book was written kinda laid the groundwork. Dune may have inspired a lot of sci-fi, but not in the same 'much of the setting is the same' kind of way.
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Feb 28, 2024 13:19
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deoju posted:I can't remember, in the book does Feyd get a bene gesserit member pregnant? What becomes of that plot point? He does have a son somewhere iirc
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Feb 28, 2024 13:40
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HhhhhhhMMMMMMMhhhhmmmm, I remember that bit. Fenring and Missus attend Feyd killing the Atreides prisoner for his 16th, 18th? birthday. Later on Margot seduces lovely Feyd for breeding lineage procurement purposes.
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Feb 28, 2024 13:42
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Cross posting from GBS: Very pleased that the Arabic erasure of “Ya hya chouhada” is the lead article in The New Yorker today. “Dune” and the Delicate Art of Making Fictional Languages https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/dune-and-the-delicate-art-of-making-fictional-languages
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Feb 28, 2024 13:55
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Just got out of the film. Loved it. It certainly takes a lot more liberties with the source material than the Part 1, but I like the changes. It’s quite a lot darker in its back half. Stunning on a visual and auditory level.Jewmanji posted:Cross posting from GBS: If you’ve seen the film, tying many of the phrases to Islamic groups would come off as negative portrayals of those groups… I don’t think we need more portrayals of of Islamic peoples as violent fundamentalists. The Algerian Liberation Front certainly aught not be tied to the use of the phrases in the film… it wouldn’t be an empowering allusion. Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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 Denis had prescient knowledge of 10/7 but instead of stopping it he just scrubbed the Arabic/Caucasus influences from his adaption!Edit: ^^ Have you read "Sabres of Paradise," the book Herbert mines for alot of Fremen customs and warfare? That interpretation seems more internal to your mind than internal to the work. Yadoppsi fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 14:38
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There's always been a tension in American media about whether resisting Imperial domination is tyne good guy or bad guy role. Can you imagine if Lucas had put Vietnamese in the rebel base scenes in star wars?
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Feb 28, 2024 14:47
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Klit II: Træfning af Arrakis status: watched. Good movie. EDIT: I’ll have to rewatch it on BluRay when it comes out, but after sitting with it a bit I think I’m quite happy with the changes to the source material. It makes the motivations of the characters clearer, which the books didn’t do a great job of, without trying to beat the audience over the head with it. deoju posted:I can't remember, in the book does Feyd get a bene gesserit member pregnant? What becomes of that plot point? BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 14:52
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Arglebargle III posted:Can you imagine if Lucas had put Vietnamese in the rebel base scenes in star wars? I mean, at least then you'd be portraying them as good guys. You could probably do that just fine now. Heck, The Creator basically did just a few months back. But Paul's holy war is a different beast.
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Feb 28, 2024 15:01
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P sure Lucilla is the great, great et cetera, grandaughter of Feyd.
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Feb 28, 2024 15:13
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Is there any facsimile or exploration of the idea that Paul can't fully see the future yet, particularly because the one person he couldn't see (Count Fenring) appears to have been written out?
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Feb 28, 2024 15:17
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BastardySkull posted:Is there any facsimile or exploration of the idea that Paul can't fully see the future yet, particularly because the one person he couldn't see (Count Fenring) appears to have been written out?
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Feb 28, 2024 15:21
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I suppose the stakes are already incredibly high.
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BastardySkull posted:Is there any facsimile or exploration of the idea that Paul can't fully see the future yet, particularly because the one person he couldn't see (Count Fenring) appears to have been written out? Well, before he drinks the water of life he specifically says he can’t see clearly. But afterward he describes his vision being “clear” though. Bit more spoiley here: While we see his visions before then, we don’t really get as much of his POV after the point where he decides to use his messianic status. The film starts to distance itself from him and we view him more from Chani’s POV as he turns from a heroic figure into a more of a frightening one.
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Feb 28, 2024 16:21
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deoju posted:I can't remember, in the book does Feyd get a bene gesserit member pregnant? What becomes of that plot point? One of the interesting parts of the prequels is that Mohiam asks the Baron for sperm and he rapes her as a gently caress you, and in retaliation she looks through her inventory of contained diseases and gives him the incurable one that turned him into a fat disgusting blob. Before that he was fit. Also now you know the fun story of how Lady Jessica was conceived.
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Scags McDouglas posted:One of the interesting parts of the prequels Crazy string of words here. Bugblatter posted:Just got out of the film. Loved it. It certainly takes a lot more liberties with the source material than the Part 1, but I like the changes. It’s quite a lot darker in its back half. Stunning on a visual and auditory level. I really don't agree. I don't see how having Chalamet spouting literal nonsense words is a less harmful of a depiction of arab/islamic culture. If you're sanitizing your movie to preempt criticisms from right wing reactionaries then you're doing it wrong. edit: Just want to be clear that I love these movies but this element (as well as the lack of MENA actors) is a real bummer. ]\ edit2: This was kind of fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zf2cfwjzg4 Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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Feb 28, 2024 16:59
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Scags McDouglas posted:One of the interesting parts of the prequels is that Mohiam asks the Baron for sperm and he rapes her as a gently caress you, and in retaliation she looks through her inventory of contained diseases and gives him the incurable one that turned him into a fat disgusting blob. Before that he was fit. Also now you know the fun story of how Lady Jessica was conceived.
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Scags McDouglas posted:One of the interesting parts of the prequels is that Mohiam asks the Baron for sperm and he rapes her as a gently caress you, and in retaliation she looks through her inventory of contained diseases and gives him the incurable one that turned him into a fat disgusting blob. Before that he was fit. Also now you know the fun story of how Lady Jessica was conceived. Thats much less interesting than it being an aspect of his own being
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Good film. Looks and sounds beautiful. Much bigger changes from the book than Part One had. The ending is beefed up, but still a bit weak. Lots of Chani and she's good. Stilgar is basically comic relief, which sucks. Almost all the Fremen stuff looks amazing. The acting is good; Feyd Rautha stuck out. Also, there's a lot less emphasis on the Kwisatch Haderach aspect of the plot and Paul's struggle with his destiny - the Water of Life bit is especially undercooked. Although the last scene of Chani going away makes sense in context, it makes a Dune Messiah film trickier. E: they actually use "fundamentalists" to describe the more religious Fremen.
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Feb 28, 2024 17:24
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BastardySkull posted:Is there any facsimile or exploration of the idea that Paul can't fully see the future yet, particularly because the one person he couldn't see (Count Fenring) appears to have been written out? I don't remember that. can Paul not see Fenring because Fenring was a failed Haderach? Wss I supposed to take the implication this could happen to Paul against Feyd as well? I missed a lot when I first read the books
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Safety Biscuits posted:E: they actually use "fundamentalists" to describe the more religious Fremen.
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Scags McDouglas posted:One of the interesting parts of the prequels is that Mohiam asks the Baron for sperm and he rapes her as a gently caress you, and in retaliation she looks through her inventory of contained diseases and gives him the incurable one that turned him into a fat disgusting blob. Before that he was fit. Also now you know the fun story of how Lady Jessica was conceived. Well don't like that
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RBA Starblade posted:Well don't like that Yeah its such trash, completely misses the point of the Baron's hideousness being a choice he has made as an act of abuse/terror against his many victims.
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Feb 28, 2024 18:09
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Also Mohaim being Jessica's mom is dumb
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Baron von Eevl posted:Also Mohaim being Jessica's mom is dumb Also Children Of Dune explicitly names her mother as Tanidia Nerus.
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