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Barry Foster posted:It's different when they're laser tigers. It's smart when the tigers have lasers Were they ever actually laser tigers? I'm not going back to read Children to find out but I recall they were controlled by their captor somehow, implied to be via radio, but I don't remember lasers other than 'Laza Tiger' kind of sounding that way. And the other part of the plan was that they were trained to attack two small bipeds wearing very specific clothing that ended up being gifted to Ghanima and Leto. Super transparent poo poo, Frank guy phoned in that book.
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ImpAtom posted:It wasn't just that. His wife was a BG who had her hooks deep into him and was (last he knew) being tortured eternally. If she hadn't been BG or the Harkonnens hadn't been so good at torture it wouldn't have worked. Still seems like something that the conditioning, or even like a basic background check, should have taken into consideration.
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if you're so smart, why don't you have a laser tiger?
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Everyone also seems to underestimate the power of love. Seriously. It's what breaks iron-clad conditioning and millennia-long plans both. Because someone fell in love more than they should have.
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it scans, frank was a firm believer in the power of horny
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uber_stoat posted:if you're so smart, why don't you have a laser tiger? YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF LASER TIGER-BOT TLEILAX
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6.5 years ago, and 800 pages ago, we started posting about rumors itt of a possible Dune movie while processing the critical success but box office failure of Blade Runner 2049 several months prior. We've come a long way.
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I HEAR LETO DIES IN THE END
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:6.5 years ago, and 800 pages ago, we started posting about rumors itt of a possible Dune movie while processing the critical success but box office failure of Blade Runner 2049 several months prior. We've come a long way. Posting without moving
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I wonder how many "lol rIDE the WORM a BIG ONe" posts we've made in that time.
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Mister Speaker posted:Were they ever actually laser tigers? I'm not going back to read Children to find out but I recall they were controlled by their captor somehow, implied to be via radio, but I don't remember lasers other than 'Laza Tiger' kind of sounding that way. it just doesn't ring the same when you say you want friggin tigers with friggin lazas on their head
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where is the bitch who said these movies would never come out, imma take his loving water
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If a long movie were good then why would it need so much filler and padding? Makes sense to me. Short movies condense the good stuff down and don't waste your time.!
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Monica Bellucci posted:I HEAR LETO DIES IN THE END leto died as he lived a dickless goon
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Toxic Mental posted:If a long movie were good then why would it need so much filler and padding? Makes sense to me. Short movies condense the good stuff down and don't waste your time.! I need a directors cut, I need the banquet scene and Gurney playing a baliset in the first movie. But apparently Denis doesn't do directors cuts, why does he hate me?
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:where is the bitch who said these movies would never come out, imma take his loving water there will never be a sequel
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Do you think they will cast cara dune in dune 6 or something so she can get really excited when the ghola climbs a wall?
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Still seems like something that the conditioning, or even like a basic background check, should have taken into consideration. I don’t know. I think it’s kind of clever to put the Hippocratic oath to a trolley test. And it might not be the most mad-genius plot so much as being insanely sadistic so it wasn’t something somebody had attempted before. It’s like, no one thought you could just blatantly kidnap a journalist and saw him into pieces and suffer absolutely no consequences whatsoever until a few years ago, because no one was sick enough to even think of the idea.
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You never know how you'll react until you yourself see your wife turned into a spider dog
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It's also a very important thing that the Bene Gesserit are very secretive about the full extent of their abilities and what they're up to. Being able to subvert trusted means of mental conditioning is exactly the kind of thing you keep secret.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:6.5 years ago, and 800 pages ago, we started posting about rumors itt of a possible Dune movie while processing the critical success but box office failure of Blade Runner 2049 several months prior. We've come a long way. Again, it is the legend
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To be fair... posted:Do you think they will cast cara dune in dune 6 or something so she can get really excited when the ghola climbs a wall? What are the of results of Gina Carano being in a movie about jihad I wonder
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Toxic Mental posted:If a long movie were good then why would it need so much filler and padding?
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What an experience on IMAX, huge picture and full frame for a fair chunk of the movie. The aspect ratio changing down when someone was using binoculars was a cool effect as well. It felt a fair bit different to part 1 in tone, but it was enjoyable. A little disappointed that Denis 'hates dialogue' because a few more words could have been said at the end inside the imperial tent. 10/10
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Honestly I feel that them being able to break the conditioning just plays in so well with how everything in this ritualistic society is built on that things must be done in the ways of their forefathers so nobody cares to do a good job with things so that once someone (the harkonnen) decides ok let's do things another way it blindside's *everyone*
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Greggster posted:Honestly I feel that them being able to break the conditioning just plays in so well with how everything in this ritualistic society is built on that things must be done in the ways of their forefathers so nobody cares to do a good job with things so that once someone (the harkonnen) decides ok let's do things another way it blindside's *everyone* Right. It's a super static and sclerotic society (stagnant, in Leto II's words). Somehow the Great Convention has been adhered to for 10,000 years before the end of Dune. And it isn't until Paul decides to be a smart-rear end and say "Yeah I defied the treaty but I didn't use atomics against any people!!!!" that it's broken. The events of Dune are about a period where a bunch of super longstanding norms and standards are ripped apart. I think the law of the Imperium for thousands of years boiled down to "that's not how things are done!" Once the Emperor lets the Harkonnens invade Arrakis it's gloves off.
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Between Dune and Shogun both being so good and getting Norms into the story I feel years of retroactive vindication for all the times I was high in college trying to get people to read the books. Similar to Lord of the Rings to be honest
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I should reread Shogun. I loved it as a kid but I was always worried it would age badly.
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kiimo posted:Between Dune and Shogun both being so good and getting Norms into the story I feel years of retroactive vindication for all the times I was high in college trying to get people to read the books. I work in a bookshop these days and, for anyone who will end up doing the same, beware the "I read anything" types. They are liars and will recoil physically from any proffered book that does not meet their delusional standards. Also, True Crime peeps are picky as gently caress.
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I think we’ll never see DUNC 3 because that novel was really dull.
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Lincoln posted:I think we’ll never see DUNC 3 because that novel was really dull.  My fantasy is them making one more and just skipping right to the second half of Children of Dune
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Maybe they can include some of Children via the medium of totally gonzo Paulovisions
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I think you could pretty easily excise Children by pushing up the schedule of Alia’s possession and making Leto II v1, uh, Leto II. Sorry, Ghanima.
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Lincoln posted:I think we’ll never see DUNC 3 because that novel was really dull. Abomination! A Messiah movie would have a ton of cool poo poo. Villeneuve’s take on Scytale and Edric will be awesome. The stoneburner is awesome. Hayt would be awesome. Chalamet looking like Sam Neil in Event Horizon will be awesome. There’s an awesome conversation where Farok describes to Scytale his first time seeing the ocean that I think would suit Villeneuve’s lyrical style: quote:"Do you know why I enlisted in the Jihad?" The old eyes stared hard at Scytale. "I heard there was a thing called a sea. It is very hard to believe in a sea when you have lived only here among our dunes. We have no seas. Men of Dune had never known a sea. We had our windtraps. We collected water for the great change Liet-Kynes promised us ... this great change Muad'dib is bringing with a wave of his hand. I could imagine a qanat, water flowing across the land in a canal. From this, my mind could picture a river. But a sea?" Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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Dune Messiah owns bones. Children of Dune is the boring one...
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Lincoln posted:I think we’ll never see DUNC 3 because that novel was really dull. i will NOT suffer this ridiculous bijaz erasure crysknives at dawn, motherfucker
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Wizchine posted:Dune Messiah owns bones. Children of Dune is the boring one... They both have good signals in the noise but the ratio continually degrades. I just want to see Paul's throne room in Messiah and Ultra Instinct Leto in Children.
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The other thing Messiah has going for it is it's the most succinct of the books and is much more suited to a 2.5 hour outing than the others. It's a nice tight conspiracy plot, whereas Children of Dune is kind of all over the map.
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