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When working on trailers for my game, my rule of thumb was that it would take me most of a work week (call it 30+ hours) to produce a new trailer, going from no footage to finished video. And that was for 60 seconds of footage, granted that they were a really tightly-choreographed 60 seconds. Video editing is hard and time-consuming work.
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Even a brief video without fancy editing can take a long time if it's being made from many hours of footage that has to be sifted through.
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Feb 27, 2024 20:52
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Also, odds are that good editing is nearly invisible to most people, but bad editing is glaringly obvious. It's me, I'm the bad editor 
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Feb 27, 2024 20:56
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this attitude does explain a lot about Jerry's posting
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The lack of star wipes in videos these days shows that editing has gone backwards.
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Inceltown posted:The lack of star wipes in videos these days shows that editing has gone backwards. This is actually why I love editing the videos my 6-yo makes, because I can do all the wacky transitions and effects and she loves it, just absolutely loves it.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:The thing about all the "it actually takes fifty hours to edit one of these twenty-minute videos!" that I'm not sure I appreciate is... why? Does someone actually care? Is there actual data that shows a professional level of editing makes a difference? I mean I don't give a gently caress as long as the sound doesn't crackle and the intro is no more than three seconds. Do other people? I think this is a topic of which I'm not really familiar with, but in doing audio editing it usually takes me about twenty minutes to produce three minutes of good audio. Actually probably a lot longer, really. If it's like a 5 minute recording, let's say, then almost every subsequent step will require re-listening to those 5 minutes at least once. Cutting out unnecessary parts, relistening to it over and over to make sure it stays cohesive and there isn't any sudden cuts or something that sounds unnatural, or removes something that was not useful at one point but referenced later in a place that can't be cut. Adding fades and edits to make sure speech sounds natural and isn't full of jagged stops. Then locating copyright free music, going through many samples to find one that sounds right, finding one that fits the scene, having to listen to the entire clip to pick out the best part of the music to use for the scene. Locating sound effects, making sure the sound effects have a level of fidelity that isn't different than the rest of the audio. Then going over it a few more times to make sure that the music comes in right, making sure sound effects come in right, making sure all the tracks sync correctly, making sure the music isn't overly loud and cutting out vocals, making sure vocals aren't overly loud. Then going through all that a few more times to make last adjustments regarding reverb and other considerations, then normalizing the audio, then finally give it one or two good listens just to ensure I didn't miss anything. If you want to make a clean and well-presented media, it takes at least that long. I don't do video editing, but I imagine when you are you have to do all the stuff I just talked about with audio and double that for video related things. Fifty hours for a twenty minute video sounds like about the right amount if you really want to make a really good product. Well... okay, fifty hours does seem like a bit much to me, but again I don't do video, so I don't know 
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Feb 28, 2024 02:42
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On the extreme end you have guys like max0r, who puts in something like 8 hours for each minute of video, which is madness considering his videos are all like this
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credburn posted:I think this is a topic of which I'm not really familiar with, but in doing audio editing it usually takes me about twenty minutes to produce three minutes of good audio. Actually probably a lot longer, really. Did you notice you didn't answer any of my questions?
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3D Megadoodoo posted:The thing about all the "it actually takes fifty hours to edit one of these twenty-minute videos!" that I'm not sure I appreciate is... why? Does someone actually care? Yes. 3D Megadoodoo posted:Is there actual data that shows a professional level of editing makes a difference? Probably. 3D Megadoodoo posted:I mean I don't give a gently caress as long as the sound doesn't crackle and the intro is no more than three seconds. Do other people? Yes.
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I mean I think everyone's doing a pretty good job explaining it. It's not like you take a fully-formed clip and just cut out a few mistakes. At minimum, you have to watch multiple separate pieces of footage to figure out what the good and bad parts even are. That takes at least as much time as the footage itself, there's really no way around that.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Did you notice you didn't answer any of my questions? More people should try this
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When an unstoppable goon meets an immovable goon
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mrpwase posted:Yes. See this is how you should not only reply to posts but also make the You Tubes! "Cut out the bad bits" lmao don't film any bad bits (this advice was free no need to thank me!)!
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Brawnfire posted:This is actually why I love editing the videos my 6-yo makes, because I can do all the wacky transitions and effects and she loves it, just absolutely loves it. Just to use this example again, this little seven-minute video about making cinnamon buns took me like a full loving day to edit the footage and I wasn't even trying to be glossy or professional. Granted I have no semblance of a workflow seeing as I'm not a video editor, so I imagine you can make the process more efficient or even automated in places, but if you're anal as gently caress video editing seems like an opportune place to get utterly lost in minute alterations. Sound editing is the same way; I can't tell you how many hours I've sunk into a song that didn't seem like it would need hours of work, just because there's so many little A/B tests and listen-thrus and maybe this whole section should be moved and...
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Layla isn't by Eric Clapton. It's by some dude called Derek.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Layla isn't by Eric Clapton. It's by some dude called Derek. Not sure if this is a bit but Derek and the Dominos is an Eric Clapton project with nobody named Derek in it.
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Layla was mastered in exactly 7 minutes 6 seconds using what is now known as the Derek method. 7 minutes 4 seconds to record the music, 1 seconds to hit the start button, and 1 seconds to hit the stop button.
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The band Derek and the Dominos has no one named Derek in it? Get out of here with that postmodern bullshit.
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When Larry Guitar left Larry and the Lefthanded, they changed the name of the band to And the Lefthanded. Now that's integrity!
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Did you notice you didn't answer any of my questions? I don't think I have the answer to any of your questions, so I just submitted my experience in hopes it might help you reach the answers yourself, but also to engage in conversation.
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This week isn't next week. It's not a week to elopement day, it's elopement day.
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"Throwing Bones" does not refer to craps/dice. It's dominos. Makes no sense to me, since some of the original dice/proto-dice were often made from animal knuckle bones. V V V Sure, but unless I've been playing dominos wrong my whole life, you don't throw them. V V V
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I mean, weren't dominos made from bone as well?
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DrBouvenstein posted:"Throwing Bones" does not refer to craps/dice. It's dominos. what's the source?
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DrBouvenstein posted:"Throwing Bones" does not refer to craps/dice. It's dominos. it's more of a cross-pollinated reference because dominoes, or rather semi-dominoes-like-things, were thrown for divination purposes.
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:it's more of a cross-pollinated reference because dominoes, or rather semi-dominoes-like-things, were thrown for divination purposes. that makes more sense all the search results I'm getting for variations on "throw bones" are osteomancy OED has bones meaning dice as far back as 1386
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DrBouvenstein posted:"Throwing Bones" does not refer to craps/dice. It's dominos. You "roll the bones" for dice, no? I've never heard "throwing bones."
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I might have just used the term "throwing" myself when being a silly little goose to my girlfriend. My friends and I have a gaming night, and I jokingly said we were "throwing bones" when she once asked me what games we play. I also made a craps-throwing motion. She then corrected me that "bones" are dominos, not dice.
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If you think about it, dominoes are kind of just really lovely dice.
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Dice also make for some pretty lovely dominoes, so that checks out
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Dominoes do kind of look like dice that have been dice-sected 
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When I was in jail I once helped a guy get a domino shoved into his penis. They call them canicas; basically someone gets hold of a domino, goes into the shower where there is grip tape, and they spend days sanding that motherfucker down. Using the grip tape that's probably covered in fungus, piss, and semen. Then when the domino is sanded down into the shape of a heart or diamond, three of us go into a bathroom stall. The first guy sits down on the stall, the second guy (me) holds his dick over a toilet paper roll, and a third guy makes two cuts using a razor blade. You have to cut in two spots to let the air out. The domino is shoved into the slit, and it sort of sits between skin layers on the top of the penis. Super glue seals the cuts. Then you just pray, pray, pray, pray you don't get a staph infection. edit: I got a soda out of the deal credburn has a new favorite as of 20:22 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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dude what the gently caress
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credburn posted:When I was in jail I once helped a guy get a domino shoved into his penis. They call them canicas; basically someone gets hold of a domino, goes into the shower where there is grip tape, and they spend days sanding that motherfucker down. Using the grip tape that's probably covered in fungus, piss, and semen. Then when the domino is sanded down into the shape of a heart or diamond, three of us go into a bathroom stall. The first guy sits down on the stall, the second guy (me) holds his dick over a toilet paper roll, and a third guy makes two cuts using a razor blade. You have to cut in two spots to let the air out. The domino is shoved into the slit, and it sort of sits between skin layers on the top of the penis. Super glue seals the cuts. Then you just pray, pray, pray, pray you don't get a staph infection. Was the guy an inmate or?
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Freakin' credburn man
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credburn posted:When I was in jail I once helped a guy get a domino shoved into his penis. They call them canicas; basically someone gets hold of a domino, goes into the shower where there is grip tape, and they spend days sanding that motherfucker down. Using the grip tape that's probably covered in fungus, piss, and semen. Then when the domino is sanded down into the shape of a heart or diamond, three of us go into a bathroom stall. The first guy sits down on the stall, the second guy (me) holds his dick over a toilet paper roll, and a third guy makes two cuts using a razor blade. You have to cut in two spots to let the air out. The domino is shoved into the slit, and it sort of sits between skin layers on the top of the penis. Super glue seals the cuts. Then you just pray, pray, pray, pray you don't get a staph infection. Hmm, prison seems less boring than I'd imagined. Is this some thing the inmates do to make themselves more attractive to other prisoners?
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credburn posted:When I was in jail I once helped a guy get a domino shoved into his penis. They call them canicas; basically someone gets hold of a domino, goes into the shower where there is grip tape, and they spend days sanding that motherfucker down. Using the grip tape that's probably covered in fungus, piss, and semen. Then when the domino is sanded down into the shape of a heart or diamond, three of us go into a bathroom stall. The first guy sits down on the stall, the second guy (me) holds his dick over a toilet paper roll, and a third guy makes two cuts using a razor blade. You have to cut in two spots to let the air out. The domino is shoved into the slit, and it sort of sits between skin layers on the top of the penis. Super glue seals the cuts. Then you just pray, pray, pray, pray you don't get a staph infection. 
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Was the guy an inmate or? Yeah, he was an inmate. Torquemada posted:Hmm, prison seems less boring than I'd imagined. Is this some thing the inmates do to make themselves more attractive to other prisoners? Well, it wasn't prison where this happened, just jail. Most of us were there only a couple weeks or months, depending on if we were fighting our case, or about to be sent to prison. However, in this case, the guy getting the canica was actually heading to prison. Maybe it's harder to get dick dominoes in prison than jail? I don't know why someone would want it who isn't going to be having sex with women -- lots of guys had them, and they would talk about how it drives women mad with sex ecstasy. They also said it makes anal sex "impossible" but, I don't know. I was there for the experience and the promise of a warm Dr. Pepper.
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