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Tau was originally substituted in for Dao or Tao, as they were meant to represent Eastern religious philosophies. GW did not want to utilize the the direct name, for obvious reasons, and they also needed something to fit their fake latin/greek, so Tau was the natural choice. So you could pronounce it "Dow" if you wanted to call back to their origins, or "Tow" like the Greek letter to match what is written.
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Repeating myself here, but I really like the concept of the Tau having a good that they don’t want anything to do with who helps them without asking. It’s a nice twist on the usual uncaring god thing.
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Feb 29, 2024 17:11
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Communist Thoughts posted:Now that is T'au for some reason how are you meant to pronounce that? Apostrophes don't always (or even especially often) denote glottal stops. Like can't is pronounced cant, not "can tuh" and while apostrophes from consonants into vowels like that aren't common in English, they're common in other languages, so use those. Like D'Aubigné is pronounced Doh bin ye. So it's just Tau.
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Feb 29, 2024 17:14
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Professor Shark posted:Repeating myself here, but I really like the concept of the Tau having a good that they don’t want anything to do with who helps them without asking. It’s a nice twist on the usual uncaring god thing. I hope they do something interesting with the idea
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Feb 29, 2024 17:51
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Same- aside from the dumb grimdark thing they did with the Tau after, I like the idea and would like to see some avatar action with the no-warp faction
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Feb 29, 2024 18:55
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I miss Tau being the intelligent, rational, and well meaning straight man faction to the comedically overdone insanity of the universe they found themselves in. As though they had a Tau Carl Sagan do a Pale Blue Dot bit, they took it to heart and overcame their own problems and wanted to genuinely and openly represent a better way to the galaxy, just to run into Orks immediately and send Shas'Carl S'agan into an existential crisis. It was more fun when the accusations of mind control, Eldar trickery and sterilizations could be reasonably read as projections of the paranoia of their human observers on an exasperated, confused Tau. From what I understand now the subtext is just text and they're just as xenophobic and authoritarian as everyone else but with Gundams? Edit: I remember when they came out one of our shop regulars insisted it was pronounced Taw, because that's the Greek alphabet pronunciation (according to him). He also insisted that manifesting your desires and The Secret was real though. Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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Feb 29, 2024 19:54
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I mean how long does it take for an empire to be like, "Alright, so EVERYTHING in the galaxy is just fucky like this and we plan accordingly" i feel like 10 years max before you learn a lesson.
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Feb 29, 2024 20:09
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tau also are ok with slavery though so its not like they are that great either. there are no heroes or good guys in 40k just lovely situations and people and the folks forced to survive in it.
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Feb 29, 2024 20:25
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my plastic dollies are the good guys, sorry
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Feb 29, 2024 20:34
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unless you play space wolves or orks im sorry you are wrong.
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Feb 29, 2024 20:35
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:unless you play space wolves ?????????????
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Feb 29, 2024 20:45
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:unless you play space wolves or orks im sorry you are wrong. my little guys are a simple mercenary outfit protecting a small world from predation and they've literally never done anything wrong ever
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Feb 29, 2024 20:54
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See, these genocidal warrior aristocrats are good guys, because they have beards and drink beer, like my buddies.
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Feb 29, 2024 20:54
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Athas posted:See, these genocidal warrior aristocrats are good guys, because they have beards and drink beer, like my buddies. getting drunk and looking for the best fight is at least respectable in 40k sense.
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Feb 29, 2024 21:11
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Tau was originally substituted in for Dao or Tao, as they were meant to represent Eastern religious philosophies. GW did not want to utilize the the direct name, for obvious reasons, and they also needed something to fit their fake latin/greek, so Tau was the natural choice. So you could pronounce it "Dow" if you wanted to call back to their origins, or "Tow" like the Greek letter to match what is written. The T'au that is spoken of is not the true T'au.
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Feb 29, 2024 21:31
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:tau also are ok with slavery though so its not like they are that great either.
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Feb 29, 2024 21:40
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yeah salamanders seem cool as well i apologize.
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Feb 29, 2024 21:47
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:yeah salamanders seem cool as well i apologize.
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Feb 29, 2024 22:00
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I miss Tau being the intelligent, rational, and well meaning straight man faction to the comedically overdone insanity of the universe they found themselves in. As though they had a Tau Carl Sagan do a Pale Blue Dot bit, they took it to heart and overcame their own problems and wanted to genuinely and openly represent a better way to the galaxy, just to run into Orks immediately and send Shas'Carl S'agan into an existential crisis. It was more fun when the accusations of mind control, Eldar trickery and sterilizations could be reasonably read as projections of the paranoia of their human observers on an exasperated, confused Tau. From what I understand now the subtext is just text and they're just as xenophobic and authoritarian as everyone else but with Gundams? That is even more funny because the Greek pronounce it Taff. Language is very weird!
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Feb 29, 2024 22:32
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I miss Tau being the intelligent, rational, and well meaning straight man faction to the comedically overdone insanity of the universe they found themselves in. As though they had a Tau Carl Sagan do a Pale Blue Dot bit, they took it to heart and overcame their own problems and wanted to genuinely and openly represent a better way to the galaxy, just to run into Orks immediately and send Shas'Carl S'agan into an existential crisis. It was more fun when the accusations of mind control, Eldar trickery and sterilizations could be reasonably read as projections of the paranoia of their human observers on an exasperated, confused Tau. From what I understand now the subtext is just text and they're just as xenophobic and authoritarian as everyone else but with Gundams? Tau definitely have a strict caste system but just being capable of dealing with other species as relative equals puts them light-years ahead of everyone else. There's a growing xenophobic element that's freaked out by other species' greater affinity for the Warp, but they're still a minority afaik
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Feb 29, 2024 23:28
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I miss Tau being the intelligent, rational, and well meaning straight man faction to the comedically overdone insanity of the universe they found themselves in. Yeah it was more fun this way imo. I suppose you can't keep it up forever since the lore is meant to be progressing but they were a lot more fun like that when they were like "you orks sure are a contentious people"
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Feb 29, 2024 23:55
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Tau was originally substituted in for Dao or Tao, as they were meant to represent Eastern religious philosophies. GW did not want to utilize the the direct name, for obvious reasons, and they also needed something to fit their fake latin/greek, so Tau was the natural choice. So you could pronounce it "Dow" if you wanted to call back to their origins, or "Tow" like the Greek letter to match what is written. GW distilled the Far East into five elements, communism and mecha. Edit - Also everyone is short and has poor eyesight. Edit 2: Now that I think about it maybe the subtext could do with a bit of adjusting in this day and age.
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Painted up a slightly scuffed printed Planetary Empire tile as a hololith table as an experiment. Just some hexflame and a drybrush over that. The drying time for the technical paint took longer than the painting, and then it hadn't properly dried in the middle.  Got two more tiles I want to try some other things with later on. Have steps for a blue tinted one written down that I want to do.
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Mar 1, 2024 00:29
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The layer lines make it look like a topographic map, like the type you would be using for a briefing, so it really fits well there!
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Good point. I even have four more tiles I can do test other colours with. The only issue is that the printed ones are slightly worse quality than that one. Kind of why I went for thato ne first.  The other two are from the fantasy version, even have wizard tower, castle and ork totem icons for it for the peg hole. Also double sided, but not much of an issue.
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Yeah, put some console-ish bits on the edges and you got yourself a GREAT holo-table
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StashAugustine posted:Tau definitely have a strict caste system but just being capable of dealing with other species as relative equals puts them light-years ahead of everyone else. There's a growing xenophobic element that's freaked out by other species' greater affinity for the Warp, but they're still a minority afaik T'au are more modern imperialists than anything else. You are going to join the Greater Good eventually.
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Cooked Auto posted:Painted up a slightly scuffed printed Planetary Empire tile as a hololith table as an experiment. Just some hexflame and a drybrush over that. I wish I had bought a few Planetary Empires sets when it was first out, now it's one of my hobby white whales
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Communist Thoughts posted:Now that is T'au for some reason how are you meant to pronounce that? I say Tuh-Ow, but I say it fast so it rhymes with Dow Cooked Auto posted:Good point. This is great and I wonder if I can buy a singular tile somewhere for super cheap. Or maybe I should try fdm printing one but I'm a little leary considering the details may not be discernable.
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Cthulu Carl posted:Yeah, put some console-ish bits on the edges and you got yourself a GREAT holo-table That's the plan for the proper one. I have a salvaged piece from a rhino interior that I'm going to use for a control panel. Otherwise I'm kind of short of those kinds of parts. The Demilich posted:This is great and I wonder if I can buy a singular tile somewhere for super cheap. Or maybe I should try fdm printing one but I'm a little leary considering the details may not be discernable. I got really lucky at one point and found an auction with those two Mighty Empire tiles. Kind of wish I had gotten one of the really interesting ones, but would probably have to pay through the nose for those. I think those tiles came with some old GW issue. My white whale is the Hive City one. Someone did a hololith table using one of those years back that inspired me in the first place to do this.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I miss Tau being the intelligent, rational, and well meaning straight man faction to the comedically overdone insanity of the universe they found themselves in. As though they had a Tau Carl Sagan do a Pale Blue Dot bit, they took it to heart and overcame their own problems and wanted to genuinely and openly represent a better way to the galaxy, just to run into Orks immediately and send Shas'Carl S'agan into an existential crisis. It was more fun when the accusations of mind control, Eldar trickery and sterilizations could be reasonably read as projections of the paranoia of their human observers on an exasperated, confused Tau. From what I understand now the subtext is just text and they're just as xenophobic and authoritarian as everyone else but with Gundams? people really oversell how drastic the shift is; like yeah the imperium thinking the ethereals have mind control powers was mostly a cold war joke at the beginning, but that early writing is by no means subtextual or even subtle about the tau being paternalistic colonial assholes who... well gosh, they'd just love to be first among equals, if only anyone else was capable of being as civilised as they are! honestly I wouldn't say they were ever framed as a straight man faction, it's more underlining their unknowing hubris through the assumed reader's knowledge of the setting. and if anything the idea that they have an idealism that was dashed on wider contact with the world is not really present at the start, and has had increasing emphasis with each revision
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It's been implied that Vespid are under some form of mind control since they were introduced IIRC
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Tau didn't have a clear dark side to them at launch, there were only some hints at maybe some sort of vague warp or chaos influence and spooky~ ethereals. The first Ciaphas Cain novel from 2003 novel paints them in a much better light than the imperium protagonists. But this is apparently standard approach from games-workshop to launch a faction/army without any real narrative idea and changing up everything years later once they got it figured out.
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I much prefer the background that the ethereals worked out a rough comms device thinking they could start a dialogue, but all the vespid needed was a vague collectivist catch phrase to get them on board.
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The tau have a rigid class system, use trade and diplomacy as a pretext for moving in to take over and like using local auxiliaries to do the dying for them. They're the british empire.
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Anyone have knowledge about the size difference between the newer astartes motorcycles versus the old ones? I got 3 of the old Dark Angels ones years ago for $5 and wanted to give them to my Blood Angels 
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ro5s posted:The tau have a rigid class system, use trade and diplomacy as a pretext for moving in to take over and like using local auxiliaries to do the dying for them. How much famine based genocide did they do?
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the Tau are basically a multi-season arc Star Trek villain that has the unfortunate luck of dealing with the Imperium instead of the Federation and look good by comparison
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AnEdgelord posted:the Tau are basically a multi-season arc Star Trek villain that has the unfortunate luck of dealing with the Imperium instead of the Federation and look good by comparison Waiting for the book starring a simple Earth Caste tailor
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Lostconfused posted:Tau didn't have a clear dark side to them at launch, there were only some hints at maybe some sort of vague warp or chaos influence and spooky~ ethereals. saying they didn't have a clear dark side at launch doesn't make any sense when the first bit of viewpoint fiction you'll read when you crack open that codex very pointedly has a Tau commander lamenting the brutes haven't been civilised by the presence of their betters yet and then further in you've got a three page letter from a Tau guy on Pech that's observant enough to understand the Kroot a bit more, but is still a set of sideburns and a pith helmet away from being a victorian stereotype... it's not as over the top about it as comparable writing about the Imperium is but they're still direct about what sort of haughty colonial attitudes they're trying to remind you of, and it's certainly not meant to be flattering
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