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Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

I recently finished watching "Expats", a series starring Nicole Kidman, which tells the story of a family of... expats, from the USA, living in Hong Kong. One of the central pillars of the plot is the family's youngest child, a toddler, getting lost in a Hong Kong night market and never being found again. The Filipino maid, whom Kidman sent away for a day-off on the night of the incident, is wracked by guilt over not being there where she could have kept an eye on the child; so much so that when the family decides to move back to the US, she willingly goes along with them, and especially since Kidman decides to stay behind in HK to keep looking for her son, and tearfully asks the maid to raise the rest of her kids.
Is this by the writers of Sons of Anarchy and/or Mayans MC?

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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my dad posted:

You have got to be loving kidding me.

it was otherwise I thought a somewhat realistic depiction of what life is like for Filipino domestic workers:

- they live in small closet-sized rooms
- there are sometimes tensions between the maids and the parents when the kids pick up habits, food preferences, or even folk beliefs from spending so much time with the maids
- there's a lot of inner conflict between the maids becoming attached to the kids, and the money that they're making, when put up against their desire to come home to the Philippines for good, so they can spend time with their real family

there was even one side-plot that I thought was kind of particularly cutting: an Indian woman who suddenly finds herself living alone after throwing out her cheating husband is left in the dark after 2018's Typhoon Mangkhut causes a power outage. In the candlelight, she commiserates with her maid - she learns of the maid's desire to go to a singing audition the following morning, and she gives the maid nice cocktail dress to wear to the occasion, and teaches her how to do makeup, and calls her "family"

in the morning, she wakes up with a hangover, and demands that the maid bring her breakfast, having forgotten everything that transpired the night before. The maid packs up the dress, decides against going to the audition, and begins her regular routing of vacuuming the carpets while waiting for eggs to boil.

but yeah, it did not stick the landing

hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006
your summary of that is better than the show, no doubt

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

gradenko_2000 posted:

it was otherwise I thought a somewhat realistic depiction of what life is like for Filipino domestic workers:

- they live in small closet-sized rooms
- there are sometimes tensions between the maids and the parents when the kids pick up habits, food preferences, or even folk beliefs from spending so much time with the maids
- there's a lot of inner conflict between the maids becoming attached to the kids, and the money that they're making, when put up against their desire to come home to the Philippines for good, so they can spend time with their real family
I haven't seen the series, but it kinda sounds fine? Like, the whole thing with maids like this is that it's basically paid motherhood, and I can't imagine you can really inhabit that role without eventually forming enough of an emotional attachment to the kids that you start feeling irrational guilt like that. Though thinking about it some more, it'd probably make more sense for the maid to want to keep looking for the kid because she has a deeper connection, while the mom fucks off back to the US and writes a column on how the Chinese have no respect for the lives of children/stole it because of the One Child Policy.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Toplowtech posted:

Is this by the writers of Sons of Anarchy and/or Mayans MC?

it was done by this person, the director of the utterly mediocre "the farewell" and a non-cantonese speaker opining on the state of a language that has more native speakers than korean

https://twitter.com/thumbelulu/status/1751280362590966260

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
The 20th largest language in the entire world is dying? Really?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Orange Devil posted:

The 20th largest language loving braindead liberals in the entire world is dying? Really?

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


All languages will eventually die, therefore all languages are dying

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/jjz1600/status/1763547515649925234?t=MwHlBuv-Nt9uIQiUii0aBw&s=19

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Orange Devil posted:

The 20th largest language in the entire world is dying? Really?

Hong Kongers are rather insistent that THEIR Cantonese is radically different than the one spoken on the mainland, usually pointing to certain slangs they claim originated in HK.

It's a pretty dubious claim, and most of the people who put it forward usually have strong OPINIONS about mainlanders

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Telluric Whistler posted:

It's a pretty dubious claim, and most of the people who put it forward usually have strong OPINIONS about mainlanders
It's clearly a british heritage.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Joy Reid: Decades before Alexei Navalny died for Russia, this similarly brave American was killed

www.msnbc.com - Fri, 01 Mar 2024 posted:

The death of Alexei Navalny, likely a murder at the hands of the Russian state, is a grim and timely reminder of the potential costs, but also the inspirational power, of courage.

There are different kinds of courage. There is physical courage: the willingness to endure physical trauma or even death in pursuit of a cause that you believe is right. There is moral courage: the willingness to endure ridicule, hatred and attacks in defense of what you believe is just. And there is psychological courage: the willingness to endure mental torment or even physical torture in order to fulfill the mission you believe has been given to you. Navalny, the chief political opponent of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, the Russian patriot and freedom activist, former candidate for mayor of Moscow and a potential rival to Putin himself, displayed all three kinds of courage over the many years he stood up to Russia’s 25-year autocrat.

The death of Alexei Navalny is a grim and timely reminder of the potential costs, but also the inspirational power, of courage.

Navalny survived a poisoning in August 2020, allegedly by the Kremlin, and convalesced in Germany. Against all advice, and knowing that returning to Russia would likely mean his imprisonment and death, he returned to the country in January 2021 to insist on his countrymen’s right to freedom of assembly, freedom to elect leaders of their own choosing and freedom of speech. Over the years, he inspired Russians, particularly young Russians, to stand up for themselves and for their freedom.

This week, Nadya Tolokonnikova, a founder of the feminist collective Pussy Riot, reflected on meeting Navalny for the first time as a 16-year-old rallying for a free Russia in Moscow in 2007. “We lock our arms and together, push the police out of the street,” she told The New York Times. “Russia could be free. It’s a new feeling for me. This is where I see Alexei Navalny for the first time. For the next 17 years, I saw my friend, Alexei, rise from a Moscow blogger to a global figure, giving hope and inspiration to people around the world.”

Tolokonnikova continued: “He helped me and millions of Russians realize that our country does not have to belong to KGB agents and the Kremlin’s henchmen. He gave us something else, a vision he called the beautiful Russia of the future. This vision is immortal, unlike us humans.”

Navalny’s life and death remind me of another courageous man who surrounded himself with young activists, inspired and led them and ultimately died for the cause of freedom: Medgar Evers, the NAACP’s first field officer in Mississippi, a veteran who had fought for the Army in Europe in World War II. Scores of Black soldiers, liberated from the suffocating confines of the segregated South, chose to remain in Europe after the war, as they preferred to live as men in a foreign country rather than as second-class citizens in their own country. But like Navalny, Evers returned to the place where he knew he would likely face physical torment and death.

Navalny’s life and death remind me of another courageous man who surrounded himself with young activists, inspired and led them and ultimately died for the cause of freedom: Medgar Evers.

He chose to come back home to Mississippi, where he immediately took up the fight for what he called “first-class citizenship.” His fight was for the right to vote, the right to peacefully assemble and protest, the right to be treated with dignity in public spaces, including lunch counters, shops and libraries, and the right of children and young people to get an education, free of the indignities of segregation.

And on June 12, 1963, he was killed for it. He was shot dead in front of his own home in Jackson by a klansman named Byron De La Beckwith, whose defense was secretly aided by the state of Mississippi and who, after a pair of mistrials in 1963 and 1964, walked free for 30 years.

The physical, moral and psychological courage Evers and Navalny displayed is as obvious as the cowardice of the men and systems that killed them.

They left their legacies in the hands of strong and brave women: Myrlie Evers-Williams and Yulia Navalnaya. These women are still bearing witness to their husbands’ courage, still telling their stories and still fighting for the causes they held dear. Yulia Navalnaya, who has vowed to get justice for her husband and has emerged as Russia’s newest opposition leader, stepped into her husband’s shoes as surely as Myrlie Evers-Williams stepped into her late husband’s. In 1995, she became one of the few women leaders of the NAACP when she was named chair of the organization’s board of directors.

Navalny’s family was forced to plead for his body. Russia seemed determined to hold it hostage until any evidence of murder, likely by poison, dwindled away. It was unclear Thursday whether the Navalny family would be permitted to hold a public funeral. But what we know from history, including the history of Medgar and Myrlie Evers, is that the evidence of murder may fade, but so long as the fight for justice continues, it cannot be made to disappear forever.

It took 30 years for justice to come to Medgar Evers’ killer, but, in no small part due to Myrlie Evers’ determination, it eventually came.

It took 30 years for justice to come to Medgar Evers’ killer, but, in no small part due to Myrlie Evers’ determination, it eventually came. De La Beckwith was finally convicted in 1994 and sentenced to life in prison. He died in 2001 at age 80.

Putin should live in fear of Navalny’s ghost and the courage his memory will provoke in the hearts of young Russians. That’s what happened in Mississippi. Evers’ young mourners gained more courage and took to the streets of Jackson and other parts of the state even more forcefully after he was assassinated.

Tolokonnikova said, “Navalny gave us ideas, and ideas are immortal.” Medgar Evers liked to say, “You can kill a man, but you can’t kill an idea.”

The problem for those who oppose freedom, whether in Mississippi or Moscow, is that courage is contagious. And justice has a funny way of prevailing over fear.

Joy-Ann Reid is the author of "Medgar and Myrlie — Medgar Evers and the Love that Awakened America."

Joy-Ann Reid is host of “The ReidOut” at 7 p.m. ET on MSNBC. “The ReidOut” features one-on-one conversations with politicians and newsmakers while addressing provocative political issues both inside and outside of the beltway.

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003
Joy cried when they shot Medgar Evers. Tears ran down her spine.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


i cannot fathom the headspace a person must be in that they think russ and daughters is a well known problematic brand because they famously have sandwiches that cost nineteen dollars but chick fil a is harmless and inoffensive by comparison

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I'm feel like the Russ and Daughter's stuff is all made up after the fact because who in a million years thinks that the staff of the loving New York Times would judge their sandwich pick for being too bougie

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Yeah that set off my fake alarm too.

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

I'm feel like the Russ and Daughter's stuff is all made up after the fact because who in a million years thinks that the staff of the loving New York Times would judge their sandwich pick for being too bougie

What could be more "NYT Reporter" than looking at a room full of NYT Reporters and thinking "these salt-of-the-earth roughnecks are going to judge my choice of sandwich if they think it isn't mainstream enough. What kind of sandwich do people in Middle America eat?"

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




who thinks sandwhich and says a brand name thing instead of like ham and cheese except a total idiot who cant make a sandwich?

like if she liked a lox and creamcheese bagel or a spicy chicken only a loser would make their ice breaker first impression a commercial by saying the brand, right? am i out of touch?

Real hurthling! has issued a correction as of 22:50 on Mar 1, 2024

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

“now if I were an undecided voter, what would my favourite sandwich be?”

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Baloney.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

russ and daughters rules. the fish is expensive but they also have great babka and rugelach

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

DynamicSloth posted:

Don't worry the gray lady won't take this lying down.


https://twitter.com/charlottetklein/status/1763258371925217709

Part of the investigation into the leak is asking the Times' group chat of Arab employees to turn over private texts they sent to one another.

https://twitter.com/wawog_now/status/1763727392411992200?t=5BFJZcLbQunyUMw34qRtAg&s=19

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1763566869343068534

quote:

The Times is committed to publishing a diversity of letters to the editor. We’d like to hear what you think about this or any of our articles.

For half a second I thought this article might be critical of Israel because of the headline (Israel Is Falling Into an Abyss) but wow that sure is an opinion (that coincidentally repeats all of the NYT reports about Oct 7 pretty much verbatim)!

I also continue to be amazed how the NYT social media accounts are a wasteland of engagement, I guess all the boomers are writing poo poo on their Facebook posts or something?

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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Precambrian Video Games posted:

I also continue to be amazed how the NYT social media accounts are a wasteland of engagement, I guess all the boomers are writing poo poo on their Facebook posts or something?

i think it's a combination of natural decline in readership plus the fact that twitter is complete dogshit now

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Also they post 8 million times a day and opinion pieces are among the lowest form of content

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

R. Guyovich posted:

russ and daughters rules. the fish is expensive but they also have great babka and rugelach

the fish is ok. they have better babka and rugelach at moishes bakery

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

i think it's a combination of natural decline in readership plus the fact that twitter is complete dogshit now

Where else can I post with certified terrorists?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

orwashers is the best imo but i haven't had moishes yet

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Weka posted:

Where else can I post with certified terrorists?

there's probably a lot of dod employees on reddit

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

eSports Chaebol posted:

even when they were better [ed note: maybe i was just dumber] there was a lot of garbage in Jacobin because there's a pretty shallow bench of writers willing and able to write a decent article or essay from a marxist perspective that is not itself longer than the longest issue of Jacobin

Doc Hawkins posted:

the Monthly Review is pretty cool

honestly any publication that takes DSA seriously at this point loses points in my book lol

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

Part of the investigation into the leak is asking the Times' group chat of Arab employees to turn over private texts they sent to one another.

https://twitter.com/wawog_now/status/1763727392411992200?t=5BFJZcLbQunyUMw34qRtAg&s=19

disassembling your human resources for parts

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




R. Guyovich posted:

orwashers is the best imo but i haven't had moishes yet

orwashers owns for jelly donuts too. they fill them for you when you order with your choice of filling.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Real hurthling! posted:

orwashers owns for jelly donuts too. they fill them for you when you order with your choice of filling.

Fresh Boston cream for me

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER


at least call it just "al-rashid incident", adding "humanitarian aid" there is just adding insult to injury

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

V. Illych L. posted:

at least call it just "al-rashid incident", adding "humanitarian aid" there is just adding insult to injury

I’m guessing that “al-Rashid incident” will be a disambiguation page before long

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Love weasel language like "some say" it's a massacre and that "sources differ".

F_Shit_Fitzgerald has issued a correction as of 18:59 on Mar 2, 2024

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

When then-first lady Hillary Clinton first mentioned a “vast right-wing conspiracy” — the enemy factions, i.e., Republicans who she said were out to get her husband — she was half-right. They were out to get him. What she didn’t acknowledge was that Bill Clinton had it coming once he’d fouled the people’s house with behavior unbefitting a housebroke dog.

Yet how nearly quaint his relatively boyish escapades seem today, compared with Donald Trump’s X-rated engagement with a porn star while wife Melania was recovering from childbirth. I suppose one could point out that Trump’s brief encounter during a golf tournament happened before he became president, while Clinton abused a young employee in the Oval Office in clear violation of workplace law.

And then one could run to the loo and retch.

Funny, we haven’t heard Melania blame a vast left-wing conspiracy for trying to get rid of her husband. Perhaps if there were such an operation, she’d sign up. Take a number, honey. But the conspiracy afoot now, as perhaps never before, is vast and right-wing — and the Grand Conspirator is Trump himself. If he said day is night, his followers would put themselves to bed while the sun was shining. Through fakery and fraud he has created a force field around himself that protects him from consequences and lulls supporters into a trance.

If Trump doesn’t like a negative report about him, it’s “fake news.” If he says the 2020 election was “stolen” from him, it must be so. If prosecutors charge him with inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol, it’s a conspiracy. Even the U.S. Supreme Court seems to have fallen under his spell.

The justices announced Wednesday that they’ll review Trump’s claim that he is protected from prosecution for actions while he was in office. This means his federal trial on charges of conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results will be postponed possibly through the election. Arguments are scheduled for the week of April 22. At issue is a unanimous ruling from a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit that rejected Trump’s claim of immunity from prosecution. Let me repeat: unanimous. What happened to no one is above the law, including the president of the United States?

The court’s unsigned order said the justices weren’t “expressing a view on the merits” and would consider only “whether and if so to what extent does a former president enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office.”

Had Trump gone to trial as originally planned — and if he had been found guilty — voters would know the results before the election. Now that his nomination is all but in the bag, he could conceivably be elected president and then have to face trial — assuming, that is, the high court rules that his presidency does not shield him from prosecution.

The soonest we’ll know could be May or June, when the court adjourns for the summer, after which a criminal trial could take months to get back on the docket. In the meantime, Trump can set aside a case that would have consumed much of his time and kept him away from the campaign trail.

My brain can’t compute what might transpire should Trump be elected and then, while president, sit through a trial. He faces four felony counts related to the alleged plan to overturn the election: conspiracy to obstruct congressional certification of the Biden victory, obstructing a congressional proceeding, conspiring to defraud the United States and conspiracy against rights, i.e., the right to vote.

Based on everything we know from multiple investigations, it seems more likely than not that a jury would find Trump guilty on all counts. The evidence is overwhelming that he watched the protesters breach the Capitol for 187 minutes, ignoring urgent pleas to intervene from advisers, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Trump’s own daughter Ivanka. By the time he told the crowd to stand down, the first two of five people were dead, both of them protesters who suffered medical emergencies, while Vice President Mike Pence and dozens of other officials were on the run, and scores of people were wounded. We’re all familiar with the aftermath.

It would seem that the true Teflon candidate, once Clinton’s nickname, is Trump. Teflon T-rump. When he once said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his supporters would still love him, he wasn’t joking. Such an event is unlikely, of course, and surely presidential immunity wouldn’t apply to an act of lethal violence. But what if, as promised last November, a reelected President Trump weaponized the FBI and the Justice Department to punish political opponents? This sounds like a conspiracy to me, the vast implications of which Russian President Vladimir Putin — and today’s Republican Party — would applaud.

God help us.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Teflon T-Rump

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Lipstick Apathy

Ah yes, the Katyn forestry incident

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