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xbilkis posted:I don't think I've ever seen RAS used to the point of someone saying "Well, [Player X] had a 9.84 and [Player Y] had a 9.32 so my preference is [Player X]". Seems like it's mostly just a shorthand for going "This guy is a (very good/average/below-average) athlete for his position" and gathering all the combine testing numbers in one place It's less so how the RAS guys post and moreso how draft discourse surrounds it. I don't think its the worst thing in the world but it adds to the pile of people who quote vague draft poo poo as gospel when arguing about prospects
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Goddamn I thought Worthy was supposed to be the speedster https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1764025604549050558?s=19
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Goddamn I thought Worthy was supposed to be the speedster Oh, he is. He’s expected to run in the 4.2s. But AD running a 4.35 means he is now a first rounder. Also this: https://x.com/mathbomb/status/1764025909017805014?s=46
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Can't believe there are 9 WRs who could be picked in the first round and I'd go "Yeah that's a good pick"
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A small part of me was hopeful Mitchell would be there for the titans but no way he makes it out of round 1 now
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I like that theres so many WR prospects. One of them has to fall out so I can have a rage aneurysm when he draft a dlineman or something.
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Benne posted:What is the point of RAS and why do people think it matters A big part of it is Green Bay famously sticks to athletic standards for drafting players and only occasionally breaks these requirements to reach for a player -- and when they do it often doesn't work out anyway. I think it was about ~7-8 years ago that people started catching onto Green Bay's tendencies and then RAS comparisons became fairly ubiquitous throughout draft discourse over the next several years. This chart goes back to Gutekunst's first draft in 2018:  Of all the players drafted below 6 RAS only Karl Brooks (6th round 2023) has looked decent. Everyone else has been an outright bust.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Oh, he is. He’s expected to run in the 4.2s. But AD running a 4.35 means he is now a first rounder. Also this: 4.25 from Worthy goddamn
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Unfortunately running a sub-4.3 40 as a WR moves you into the "undraftable" pile
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He looks so smooth https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1764066533871890761?s=46&t=ckPt10nE464AHv1IdSGFyg
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Ewers is going to crash so hard next year
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Ches Neckbeard posted:4.25 from Worthy goddamn https://x.com/dpbrugler/status/1764068107759280505?s=20 Oh yeah.
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Tied the loving record and looks so smooth doing it lord Most importantly didn't hurt himself like John Ross did
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SKULL.GIF posted:A big part of it is Green Bay famously sticks to athletic standards for drafting players and only occasionally breaks these requirements to reach for a player -- and when they do it often doesn't work out anyway. I think it was about ~7-8 years ago that people started catching onto Green Bay's tendencies and then RAS comparisons became fairly ubiquitous throughout draft discourse over the next several years. The Colts do this too, they loving love high RAS guys. Hence their tight end room full of dudes who are like 6’6 260, fast, but may or may not have any ability to catch a football whatsoever
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Tied the loving record and looks so smooth doing it lord Worthy is also an excellent WR. Not just a speed merchant. Christ, do not let him go to the Chiefs.
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So this is a pretty wildly athletic WR class huh
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Professor Funk posted:So this is a pretty wildly athletic WR class huh 4.21 for Worthy.
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4.21 officially 
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Worthy gonna be a top 15 pick.
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So there's no way Worthy is dropping out of the 1st round then. He seemed like the ideal WR for the Chiefs anyway, but he probably won't even reach them now.
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I mean everyone knew he was going to test super fast the guy was hitting 4.4 in high school it's just more the fact that he gets shoved off his routes so easily that people were talking 2nd/3rd day for him. He's smaller than DeVonta Smith, bone thin and not strong nor does he have the torque ability with his arms that Smith has. Washington was bullying the poo poo out of him at the Sugar Bowl. e: I have him in the 2nd round which is mostly based on his screen game prowess and he will get open over and over on go routes but top 15 is ehhh Doltos fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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if the 3 receivers are gone at 9, I think at this point I'd be fine with the Bears just taking AD Mitchell
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Worthy is also an excellent WR. Not just a speed merchant. Or do and maybe a jet sweep will actually work when Andy calls it
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Wilson might jump Coleman. https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1764065609774498018?t=qBIqircPgbVFTTQxa1czUw&s=19
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It'd be neat to see the NFL careers of the players who are like Top 10 or so in RAS in each position. Probably wouldn't be many big names.
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Is this an unusually fast and athletic draft class? Even the big guys are fast as hell
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trevorreznik posted:Is this an unusually fast and athletic draft class? Even the big guys are fast as hell A lot of the prospects are very athletic. A bunch are 5/6 year athletes that had a while to develop so they're more in their athletic peaks than younger guys. Others are just typical insane athletes which is kind of a prerequisite to get into the NFL. There's also a ton of leftover covid year players in the NCAA so the athletic guys look even better next to mediocre talent.
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Mega64 posted:It'd be neat to see the NFL careers of the players who are like Top 10 or so in RAS in each position. Probably wouldn't be many big names. https://ras.football/ First number is what they scored when they tested, second number is their scores against all-time. This will favor newer players since they're generally better trained, better diet, etc. Not going to do all positions, just a few that caught my eye -- you can see for yourself pretty easily anyway just by filtering to position on the website. quote:QB At a glance it looks like RAS translates decently to performance if you're a RB, WR, or pass rusher. If you have to cover? Not so much.
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Asproigerosis posted:The only stat that matters is winz, don't know why so many morons think they can conjugate the perfect stats formulas. 
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Moritz Böhringer...
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zyon mccollum has been decent in tampa, therefore RAS is unassailable
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https://x.com/dpbrugler/status/1764076005986070698?s=46&t=ckPt10nE464AHv1IdSGFyg Brian Thomas Jr and Adonai Mitchell look like they are fighting it out for WR4.
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Are we really assuming Coleman is dropping below both of them already?
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Grozz Nuy posted:Are we really assuming Coleman is dropping below both of them already? I keep forgetting that the ACC exists
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Some big boys https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1764305712128180562 https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1764311340233937120
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This is what Amarius Mims looks like at 340 btw https://x.com/GeorgeFoster72/status/1764325910734409809?s=20 lmao
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Cash Monet posted:This is what Amarius Mims looks like at 340 btw The power…
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Will he break the streak and become A Good Mims in the nfl? I guess Marvin could be good but he got like 1 target per game so who can say
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Cash Monet posted:This is what Amarius Mims looks like at 340 btw the little old guy taking his picture really makes it
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